SB-400 heads up

Started by amptech, September 16, 2018, 01:30:34 AM

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amptech

On ebay.

I still follow SB-300 on ebay, I look for a project at a good price. Unfortunately, this one here
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-SB300-gibson-bass-guitar/132780262718
looked like a candidate, but I suppose it's a SB-400 as it looks like it has a long neck, and bridge all the way down.

I guess many of you guys here like the 400?

Dave W

That does look like an SB-400. Even if it turns out to be working, that's a lot more than I'd pay for a stripped bass with no logo.

uwe

Dave is a great fan of the SB family - he has often opined on their remarkable sound!
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Dave W

Quote from: uwe on September 18, 2018, 11:34:56 AM
Dave is a great fan of the SB family - he has often opined on their remarkable sound!

Remarkable isn't the word for it.

To be fair, I've only played one, an SB-300. That was enough for me. Tone like hitting a wet cardboard box.

uwe

Dave must have had a duff one with possibly dead strings. Actually, the 300/400 series especially (with the meek-looking guitar pups), has a very sweet and clear single coil sound, airy, but not whimpy, clear, but not sterile. Jazz Bass lovers that want a bit more ooomph wouldn't be appalled.
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

Dave W

It's been close to 20 years, too long ago to remember the strings or much of anything other than the lifeless tone.

ilan

Quote from: Dave W on September 18, 2018, 11:47:40 AM
Tone like hitting a wet cardboard box.
That exactly was my first impression of an EB0, in a Denmark Street shop some 30+ years ago. I've learned since that it was accurate.

Dave W

Quote from: ilan on September 21, 2018, 01:45:15 AM
That exactly was my first impression of an EB0, in a Denmark Street shop some 30+ years ago. I've learned since that it was accurate.

In that case, we're using the same term to describe basses that are almost exact opposites.

The SB-300 I played was clear in tone but low in output and had almost no sustain. Lifeless. An EB-0 is muddy, high output, unfocused unless you use some radical EQing, and has tons of sustain since it will drive any amp into overdrive at all but the lowest setting.

westen44

Quote from: Dave W on September 21, 2018, 07:56:09 AM
In that case, we're using the same term to describe basses that are almost exact opposites.

The SB-300 I played was clear in tone but low in output and had almost no sustain. Lifeless. An EB-0 is muddy, high output, unfocused unless you use some radical EQing, and has tons of sustain since it will drive any amp into overdrive at all but the lowest setting.

A totally accurate description of an EB-0.  When playing one, pets, small children and fragile objects need to be kept at a safe distance.  Depending on the volume and, of course, what it's being played though, it has the capability of shaking the foundations of the earth. 
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FrankieTbird

Quote from: Dave W on September 21, 2018, 07:56:09 AM
The SB-300 I played was clear in tone but low in output and had almost no sustain.

That's pretty much what my EB-4L was like when I first got it.  It now sports a mudbucker.

clankenstein

I have a Mudbucker in my eb4l too ,also a thunderbucker as well.Small sounding it is not.Love to try an sb400 but unlikely here in NZ.
Louder bass!.

ajkula66

Quote from: westen44 on September 21, 2018, 10:36:12 AM
A totally accurate description of an EB-0.  When playing one, pets, small children and fragile objects need to be kept at a safe distance.  Depending on the volume and, of course, what it's being played though, it has the capability of shaking the foundations of the earth. 

You should experience my EB-0L which is strung BEAD. I always warn those about to try it out that they may end up being on on dialisys for the rest of their lives... :mrgreen:
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westen44

Quote from: ajkula66 on September 21, 2018, 04:46:57 PM
You should experience my EB-0L which is strung BEAD. I always warn those about to try it out that they may end up being on on dialisys for the rest of their lives... :mrgreen:

It sounds like it can double as both a musical instrument and a weapon.   ;D
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--Blaise Pascal

Dave W

Quote from: westen44 on September 21, 2018, 10:36:12 AM
A totally accurate description of an EB-0.  When playing one, pets, small children and fragile objects need to be kept at a safe distance.  Depending on the volume and, of course, what it's being played though, it has the capability of shaking the foundations of the earth.

I may have mentioned this before. About 1996-97, fooling around with my old slothead EB-0L after a gig, a neighbor made a noise complaint. Cops came and thought there was a party with a loud boombox b/c the awnings over my front door and windows were literally moving up and down. Nope, just me, the bass and my Mesa rig.  :)

Quote from: ajkula66 on September 21, 2018, 04:46:57 PM
You should experience my EB-0L which is strung BEAD. I always warn those about to try it out that they may end up being on on dialisys for the rest of their lives... :mrgreen:

I can imagine!

I had my EB-0F for part of the same time as my EB-0L, the longer scale was noticeably clearer but had just as much boom.

westen44

Quote from: Dave W on September 22, 2018, 12:05:05 AM
I may have mentioned this before. About 1996-97, fooling around with my old slothead EB-0L after a gig, a neighbor made a noise complaint. Cops came and thought there was a party with a loud boombox b/c the awnings over my front door and windows were literally moving up and down. Nope, just me, the bass and my Mesa rig.  :)

I can imagine!

I had my EB-0F for part of the same time as my EB-0L, the longer scale was noticeably clearer but had just as much boom.

I've had the police come many times during band practices, but never when I'm just playing alone.  When it's just me, I usually don't turn up much.  That's a funny story, though, and it isn't hard for me at all to imagine how that happened.   
It's not those who write the laws that have the greatest impact on society.  It's those who write the songs.

--Blaise Pascal