Oops, German engineering is superior, but......

drbassman · September 23, 2015, 03:01:35 PM

Cheating on diesel emissions is a bit over the top.

exiledarchangel · September 23, 2015, 03:27:26 PM

If you cannot trust german engineers, end IS near!

Pilgrim · September 23, 2015, 03:27:34 PM

Vorsprung durch sleight-of-software.

Granny Gremlin · September 23, 2015, 04:01:16 PM

I still love my TDI Golf. Even more so now that I know she's a dirtier girl than I originally thought.

OK that got weird.

drbassman · September 23, 2015, 06:14:37 PM

I know nothing.............

Alanko · September 24, 2015, 04:19:23 AM

Knowing that lot they were probably ducting excess emissions into the cabin. Strictly for the export market, mind.

Basvarken · September 24, 2015, 05:10:15 AM

Do you guys think Volkswagen is the only one who's been messing with emission software?

drbassman · September 24, 2015, 05:58:58 AM

Quote from: Basvarken on September 24, 2015, 05:10:15 AM
Do you guys think Volkswagen is the only one who's been messing with emission software?

Good point! I wonder what Fiat and BMW are up to?

Let's not jump to conclusions because of one bad apple. I doubt US companies are doing it. Heck, we can't even get a web site for Obamacare up and working after spending $600 million plus!

Alanko · September 24, 2015, 06:02:34 AM

Quote from: Basvarken on September 24, 2015, 05:10:15 AM
Do you guys think Volkswagen is the only one who's been messing with emission software?

Apparently not. By proxy any part of the VW family will be implicated, and I read in the news that other manufacturers might be guilty as well. I would consider this an 'Emissionsgate' affair that will wrangle for a while.

Basvarken · September 24, 2015, 06:58:45 AM

Audi is family. Seat is family. Porsche is family...

And why would Germans be worse than the French or the Italians? Peugeot, Citroën, Alfa Romeo, Fiat, etc etc.

Get ready for a "cycling doping scandal" XXL

Pilgrim · September 24, 2015, 07:30:50 AM

This may be a nice business opportunity for some American cars when the backlash occurs.

Basvarken · September 24, 2015, 08:01:17 AM

Whats makes you think American cars aren't affected?
I'd say any car with software under the hood is candidate

TBird1958 · September 24, 2015, 08:03:38 AM

To ze Russian front with them!

Alanko · September 24, 2015, 08:23:33 AM

Quote from: Basvarken on September 24, 2015, 08:01:17 AM
Whats makes you think American cars aren't affected?
I'd say any car with software under the hood is candidate

Especially American ones.

Granny Gremlin · September 24, 2015, 08:26:44 AM

One thing I'm curious about is how the car computer knows when an emissions test is being done - like is there a sensor on the tailpipe or something?