Babicz 3 Point Bridge FCH-3

Started by TBird1958, August 08, 2014, 10:49:07 AM

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Pilgrim

It's funny - I got my '64 EB-0 and immediately removed the Badass bridge that was on it.  I called Hipshot about the adjustable bridge but it wasn't in production yet.  The next day, I opened the little storage compartment in the EB-0 case and found the original bar bridge in it.  Problem solved!  That bar bridge works fine IMO.

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amptech

I open the storage compartments all the time, hoping a nickel bar bridge with the slim forks (just like yours!) shows up...
I'd love to get one for my '63 EB0F, wich for the time have the 3 point. There is one on ebay now, but for the moment out of my
price range...

4stringer77

True that amptech. The chrome 2 pointers are flimsy as all get out but the nickel ones actually had some heft to them. Wish someone with access to a machine shop could crank out some replicas.
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amptech

Quote from: 4stringer77 on August 11, 2014, 07:56:44 AM
True that amptech. The chrome 2 pointers are flimsy as all get out but the nickel ones actually had some heft to them. Wish someone with access to a machine shop could crank out some replicas.

Thought of it. Does anybody know the alloy? Is it zinc?

uwe

Is that now standard with new SGs and TBs? Sieht gut aus!
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godofthunder

Nice looking bridge! Looks like something I drew up years ago. Oh Well you snooze you lose.
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Dave W

Quote from: uwe on August 11, 2014, 01:08:04 PM
Is that now standard with new SGs and TBs? Sieht gut aus!

I don't think anyone's saying that.

Granny Gremlin

The one thing I don't like about this (and the hipshot) is that it sits on the body - I've seen folks remove the hipshot and there's an indentation in the wood.  No thanks for my vintage bass (I actually like the 3 point, sure not perfect, but works well), but for a new one it's OK I guess (if it's stock).  Maybe it was cranked down to hard, I dunno if it would be stable if the posts were loosened as I've not used one myself.  I also suppose one could cut out a protective base plate out of 1MM aluminuim or something, to prevent body damage.

As for 2 point replacement, I love my Schaller 460.   No longer in production though.  Bar bridge is good, but as I play higher up the neck a lot (wannabe rhythmn guitar), intonatability is a must for me.

I have wondered recently, what Wilkinson (Gotoh) would come up with if they decided to enter this market.  I was recently very impressed with one of their geetar bridges on a Ric a customer had in for a setup and a pup fix (one coil dead - converted it to a single coil; now has a Fender sound option and balance between pups is surprisingly good).  So (easily - philips vs allen and not under the strings etc) adjustable and solid.  The whole axe was very nice actually, just didn't dig the look so much.
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Dave W

As I understand it, Trevor Wilkinson is the designer. He licenses his designs to Gotoh or Sung-Il. No reason he couldn't come up with his own design, but there would have to be enough of a market for Gotoh or Sung-Il to want to produce it.

exiledarchangel

That bridge would look cool on a 20/20! :D 
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TBird1958

Quote from: Granny Gremlin on August 12, 2014, 09:39:00 AM
The one thing I don't like about this (and the hipshot) is that it sits on the body - I've seen folks remove the hipshot and there's an indentation in the wood.  No thanks for my vintage bass (I actually like the 3 point, sure not perfect, but works well), but for a new one it's OK I guess (if it's stock).  Maybe it was cranked down to hard, I dunno if it would be stable if the posts were loosened as I've not used one myself.  I also suppose one could cut out a protective base plate out of 1MM aluminuim or something, to prevent body damage.

As for 2 point replacement, I love my Schaller 460.   No longer in production though.  Bar bridge is good, but as I play higher up the neck a lot (wannabe rhythmn guitar), intonatability is a must for me.

I have wondered recently, what Wilkinson (Gotoh) would come up with if they decided to enter this market.  I was recently very impressed with one of their geetar bridges on a Ric a customer had in for a setup and a pup fix (one coil dead - converted it to a single coil; now has a Fender sound option and balance between pups is surprisingly good).  So (easily - philips vs allen and not under the strings etc) adjustable and solid.  The whole axe was very nice actually, just didn't dig the look so much.


I agree with you about the indentation aspect, tho it may not really matter. A three point will do it too, two of my '76s were that way before being refined.



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Granny Gremlin

I've never had that with a 3 point.... though if you crank it down low enough obviously it is possible.  People do stupid shit to instuments over the years.
Quote from: uwe on April 17, 2014, 03:19:20 PM
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TBird1958


Pretty easy to see here........One of my '76s before it went to the paint shop, Gibson's inserts don't have a lip so the studs can be cranked all the way down when you're in search of low action and trying to compensate for a broken headstock repair that has twisted over time - I love a good three point!


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Pilgrim

Quote from: TBird1958 on August 13, 2014, 10:41:09 AM
  I love a good three point!

Now you're just trying to make trouble, aren't you??   ;)
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