Helliver Tim Schraubt bass

Started by ilan, April 28, 2021, 03:30:31 PM

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ilan

I know nothing about this bass, just that it's one of the nicest designs I have ever seen.

https://tim-stelzer.de/timschraubtbass/?m=201911




Rob


Dave W

I like the looks of it. Some Gibson influence there.

slinkp

Nice.  The pickup design and placement shows a Stingray influence as well, and it sounds a bit like one too to my ear.

Article about it - I can't read German but thanks to Google translate I can get the gist.
"Medium" scale, I wonder how long it is?
Mahogany body, mahogany set neck, ebony fingerboard.

https://tim-stelzer.de/timschraubtbass/?m=201911
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Dave W

If only someone here were a native German speaker...

uwe

#5
Ilan and his meschugge craving for Deutsches Design!  :rolleyes:

Ich soll übersetzen? Na gut, stichpunktartig, sonst wird's zu lang:

- maho body and neck, ebony board,

- set neck, medium scale,

- Stelzer's first bass prototype, he usually does guitars,

- he wanted it light, ergonomic and for not so tall players, hence medium scale, but you can order long scale too, also different or more pups,

- "a conscious effort to get away from the rule book that a well-sounding bass has to have an alder or ash body with a bolt-on long scale maple neck" - I have no idea what brand he means, honestly,

- pup can be switched in series, parallel or single coil,

- slinkp is right, from the sound examples, it sounds to me like a maho Stingray would, the pup type and its positioning are most likely responsible for that, there is one big dif: while most Stingrays have an anemic G string and should be consequently delivered E-A-D only, the G string on the Stelzer is actually the most dominant one, no doubt by virtue of the medium scale,

- Tim Stelzer is happy "that it didn't come out sounding like a Gibson EB", yet at the same time doesn't replicate "prevailing bolt-on culture" ("bolt-on" seems to be a synonym for him for that Californian brand - and all the boutique builders following it - whose unspeakable name I will not repeat here).
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Basvarken

I like it. The hybrid of a Thunderbird and a EB-0 (lp jr dc) with a dash of Stingray and a hint of a P-bass.

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4stringer77

Has some resemblance to the Warwick Idolmaker. Between that model and the thumb, it's like they are trying to become the reigning champs of neckdive. This medium scale bass makes a nice balance between modern and classic.
Contrary to what James Bond says, a good Gibson should be stirred, not shaken.

TBird1958



Schecter has/had? a bass that looks kind of like this too.
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ilan

Quote from: Basvarken on May 03, 2021, 02:01:18 AM
and a hint of a P-bass

The headstock you mean? More like a hint of Sandberg.

4stringer77

Quote from: TBird1958 on May 03, 2021, 01:20:15 PM

Schecter has/had? a bass that looks kind of like this too.

That would be the Ultra.
Contrary to what James Bond says, a good Gibson should be stirred, not shaken.

Basvarken

Quote from: ilan on May 04, 2021, 03:24:18 AM
The headstock you mean? More like a hint of Sandberg.

Which is of course the umpteenth 7ender clone. 😉
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www.thegibsonbassbook.com

ilan

Not a very elegant variant, unlike the rest of the bass. IMHO a reverse body needs a reverse headstock.

Dave W

Quote from: 4stringer77 on May 03, 2021, 08:39:12 AM
Has some resemblance to the Warwick Idolmaker. Between that model and the thumb, it's like they are trying to become the reigning champs of neckdive. This medium scale bass makes a nice balance between modern and classic.

I don't see the resemblance. This bass has a Les Paul type upper bout, rounded on the bass side, conventional cutaway on the treble side. The Idolmaker is a reverse-type design, upper bout on the treble side extending well past the rest of the body.