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Helliver Tim Schraubt bass
« on: April 28, 2021, 02:30:31 PM »
I know nothing about this bass, just that it's one of the nicest designs I have ever seen.

https://tim-stelzer.de/timschraubtbass/?m=201911



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Re: Helliver Tim Schraubt bass
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2021, 03:28:33 PM »
That is nice looking.

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Re: Helliver Tim Schraubt bass
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2021, 10:17:47 PM »
I like the looks of it. Some Gibson influence there.

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Re: Helliver Tim Schraubt bass
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2021, 04:24:08 PM »
Nice.  The pickup design and placement shows a Stingray influence as well, and it sounds a bit like one too to my ear.

Article about it - I can't read German but thanks to Google translate I can get the gist.
"Medium" scale, I wonder how long it is?
Mahogany body, mahogany set neck, ebony fingerboard.

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Re: Helliver Tim Schraubt bass
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2021, 09:58:59 PM »
If only someone here were a native German speaker...

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Re: Helliver Tim Schraubt bass
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2021, 02:18:18 PM »
Ilan and his meschugge craving for Deutsches Design!  :rolleyes:

Ich soll übersetzen? Na gut, stichpunktartig, sonst wird's zu lang:

- maho body and neck, ebony board,

- set neck, medium scale,

- Stelzer's first bass prototype, he usually does guitars,

- he wanted it light, ergonomic and for not so tall players, hence medium scale, but you can order long scale too, also different or more pups,

- "a conscious effort to get away from the rule book that a well-sounding bass has to have an alder or ash body with a bolt-on long scale maple neck" - I have no idea what brand he means, honestly,

- pup can be switched in series, parallel or single coil,

- slinkp is right, from the sound examples, it sounds to me like a maho Stingray would, the pup type and its positioning are most likely responsible for that, there is one big dif: while most Stingrays have an anemic G string and should be consequently delivered E-A-D only, the G string on the Stelzer is actually the most dominant one, no doubt by virtue of the medium scale,

- Tim Stelzer is happy "that it didn't come out sounding like a Gibson EB", yet at the same time doesn't replicate "prevailing bolt-on culture" ("bolt-on" seems to be a synonym for him for that Californian brand - and all the boutique builders following it - whose unspeakable name I will not repeat here).
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Re: Helliver Tim Schraubt bass
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2021, 01:01:18 AM »
I like it. The hybrid of a Thunderbird and a EB-0 (lp jr dc) with a dash of Stingray and a hint of a P-bass.


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Re: Helliver Tim Schraubt bass
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2021, 07:39:12 AM »
Has some resemblance to the Warwick Idolmaker. Between that model and the thumb, it's like they are trying to become the reigning champs of neckdive. This medium scale bass makes a nice balance between modern and classic.
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Re: Helliver Tim Schraubt bass
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2021, 12:20:15 PM »


 Schecter has/had? a bass that looks kind of like this too.
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Re: Helliver Tim Schraubt bass
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2021, 02:24:18 AM »
and a hint of a P-bass

The headstock you mean? More like a hint of Sandberg.
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Re: Helliver Tim Schraubt bass
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2021, 06:59:46 AM »

 Schecter has/had? a bass that looks kind of like this too.

That would be the Ultra.
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Re: Helliver Tim Schraubt bass
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2021, 08:51:10 AM »
The headstock you mean? More like a hint of Sandberg.

Which is of course the umpteenth 7ender clone. 😉

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Re: Helliver Tim Schraubt bass
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2021, 09:12:45 AM »
Not a very elegant variant, unlike the rest of the bass. IMHO a reverse body needs a reverse headstock.
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Re: Helliver Tim Schraubt bass
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2021, 10:00:22 PM »
Has some resemblance to the Warwick Idolmaker. Between that model and the thumb, it's like they are trying to become the reigning champs of neckdive. This medium scale bass makes a nice balance between modern and classic.

I don't see the resemblance. This bass has a Les Paul type upper bout, rounded on the bass side, conventional cutaway on the treble side. The Idolmaker is a reverse-type design, upper bout on the treble side extending well past the rest of the body.