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The Outpost Cafe / 40 Years ago
« on: April 25, 2013, 08:13:45 AM »

 It's hard for me to realize.......40 years ago about this time of year I went to my first concert, 13 years old in the Spring of 1973, it was also my first date, I still remember her name too - Barbie Kost  :)
 For anybody here that's ever wondered how I could turn out the way I did, well, I give a lot of the credit to Alice, there's no time like your first time - His show is the one I judge all others against (others fell so far short! notably Led Zeppelin) it left a lasting impression on me, made only stronger by the likes of Slade and KISS. I remember tickets were the kingly sum of $5.00 apeice, thanks Alice, the memories last!
 I always knew this was the best Alice Cooper albums/ Lineup

 

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The Outpost Cafe / Happy Birthday Ritchie Blackmore
« on: April 14, 2013, 12:40:43 PM »


Well, I wish I'd seen it first........ :mrgreen:

 IT'S RITCHIE BLACKMORE'S BIRTHDAY  :toast:
 
 Now we can have a thread that leads away from him  :-* 


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The Outpost Cafe / Mad Men
« on: April 07, 2013, 09:50:52 AM »

 Is anyone else here watching AMC's series based on a  '60s Madison Avenue Ad Agency?
The new season starts tonight, I don't generally get too worked up over TV but this has been great fun to watch. It's pays attention to the time period's detail and uses historical events (i.e Kennedy assination, The Beatles, Vietnam War etc.) as essential parts of the story.......

Check it out if you haven't, I caught one episode late in the season last year then found I could watch the entire series that I'd missed on Netflix - Highly recommended for '60s children  ;)

http://www.amctv.com/mad-men/videos/a-look-at-season-6-inside-mad-men
  

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The Outpost Cafe / The Nasty Habits exposed ;)
« on: November 20, 2012, 10:50:35 PM »


  A little shameless promo here, my band The Nasty Habits is the cover story for UK based online magazine http://frockmagazine.com/frock/#/1/
 I provided the basis for the article using our website's timeline, Alison Peacock edited and added notes from taped interviews, the photos are hers as well. There are of course plenty of Thunderbirds, at the end of the article there is a link to the magazine that has some addition band bios - Yes Slade gets mentioned, Ritchie Blackmore does not.
Before you click the link remember that the magazine is for TG folks so you'll see TG related (but safe) subjects before you get to our article.  ;) ;D

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The Outpost Cafe / Wishbone Ash - unexpected
« on: November 16, 2012, 09:28:49 AM »

 Just something one of my co-workers brought in that's kinda fun, I think that's Andy Powell's sig.
He happened to be visiting England at the time. My knowledge of the English countryside is limited, is this near any of our forum mates?



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Gibson Basses / EB-0 Price
« on: October 13, 2012, 10:55:47 AM »


 So.......

While at my local GC to buy a used GK 4x10 Goldline for my at home rehearsal rig I noticed a used Slothead EB-0? (I think?, one big ass Humbucker at the neck) for $899. Is that a bit much for one these?   

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Gibson Basses / G-3 Review
« on: September 22, 2012, 10:48:45 PM »


Gibson's latest release is an update of the '70s classic G-3 bass, like the original the body is maple, (grade A on my 'burst finish example) overall thin with nicely contoured edge, especially nice on the upper 'bout. The neck is also maple, with a baked maple fretboard, the frets are factory plek'ed, has a Corian nut, the headstock is a depature from the original issue, being more of the shape seen on a Flying V guitar. The neck and body are glued or "set" together, a construction method used on many of Gibson's guitars and basses over the years, this along with the maple typically helps a bass produce a brighter tone with focus, chrome Grover clover tuners are used, and have a nice easy movement and vintage look about them. There is a rather substantial volute at just past the nut on the backside of the neck, which at first glance did cuase me some concern - more on that later. The finish on my example was a very neatly applied satin Honey 'Burst, which nicely accentuates the body lines and is a pleasant variation on traditional colors without going too far, the neck is finished in a clear satin which played quite easily and had no "tack" as some gloss finishes can. The bridge is Gibson's Three Point, again finished in chrome, I know this design gets slagged a lot, I've never understood why - with a proper understanding of how it works, low action and perfect intonation can be had. I'm pretty fussy about set ups on my basses, I don't expect any factory bass, or used bass that I may buy the be set up to my preference. At one point or another, all of my basses go to Mike Lull for some tweaking and while my G-3's factory set up was certainly good and easily playable, a trip to Mike's shop would make it perfect. As I understand it, the G-3's new pickups were designed by Jim DeCola, once of the Fender custom shop, they are a large single coil type using Alnico V magnets. The middle pickup is reverse wound, reverse polarity which cancels hum normally associated with single coil pickups. A three position toggle switch allows you to use the middle and neck pickups in the up position, all three in the middle, and the bridge and middle in the down position.
 I played the G-3 through my GK 700RBII with a 4x10SBX for the review, all the controls were at noon to start, as I played I found backing the bass off a bit to 10:30 and the lo-mid to 11:00 helped maintain clarity and punch. Working the switch while playing fingerstyle I found I enjoyed the mid position with all three pups on the most with the down position using the bridge and mid pups following closely. The up position yeilds a lot of bass response which was fine in a bedroom tone setting, but got lost when I used the bass at band rehearsal. Going thru the swith postion playing with a pick gave different results, the down position was much too thin to be useful, the mid postion was good with nice balance and a lot of grind and growl coming out - very pleasing tone. Using a pick and the switch in the up position was a bit of surprise, again there is more bass response but with a pick it's not so dominate as to be muddy or undefined, again with a lot of growl, great tone! Fellow LBO're and TBer  (PWV)  Dave came for a visit and had his RipperII in tow, we sat down and compared the to basses, obviously the ergonomics are similar with the pickups being the big difference. Between the two I felt the G-3 to be the better bass, after a little time with it Dave had decided that he'd be selling his Nash to fund a G-3!
 I also gave the G-3 a tryout at band rehearsal as we worked thru a 50 minute set, I'm primarily a pick player and for the most used the bass with the switch in the mid position and occasionally in the up, the G-3 has a lot of very growly tone, the maple neck, body and set neck give it a bit snap and note decay is shorter, more like a Fender, very pleasing overall. Fingerstyle had me pretty much in the mid postion, tho I did try the down position too - In the band context that felt a little on the thin side tho. I really thought the substantial volute would somehow impede comfortable playing, honestly, it turned out to be a big non-issue!
 As always there are things that attract or scare potential buyers, overall I felt this to be a very pleasing bass, the paintwork, wood finishing and tone all seem quite nice. I have one complaint tho, and that is that the fret ends could really use a better finishing at the factory, I really noticed as played up and down the neck that there was a bit sharpness there and that it likely was not fret sprout but something that should be addressed at the factory.
 I'm sure most DIY guys or good luthier could take care of it quickly, but Gibson should look at this - Other than this, the overall QC was quite nice with no flaws and a very pleasing bass at a nice price, $999.00 shipped for a U.S made instrument makes this a definate winner.   


Enjoying a nice September morning with the Subaru

Headstock heaven.......and holy volute!


The baked maple fretboard and plek'd nut and frets.

What a Sweet Fat Bottom Girl!

The test rig

Gettin' leggy playing Uwe's bass


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Gibson Basses / '77 Thunderbird re fin is a go!
« on: August 17, 2012, 01:39:38 PM »


 Away she goes to Marty Bell on Tuesday.
For all our newbies, I originally bought this bass through the good offices '69Vette (OldmanC of late) it's been a great bass, love it's tone - the pups have a great warm growl to them. I have the feeling there are many stories inside this bass, it's headstock has a music store sticker from Arkansas, at one point it was refretted with large frets, much bigger than stock, and of course it has the requisite busted headstock, which over time has developed a slight lateral twist.
 Anyway it's had it's share of knocks and dings, time for for a fresh coat of paint, it won't be black!
And yes we can have a poly vs. Nitro debate when it gets back. Meantme I'll be cleaning the parts up, any body have suggestions for Nickel tuners?


 In pretty much the shape I got it from our good George.


The bridge, right down on the body, note the reversed saddle on the E string.


And buck naked, see the indent of the bridge in the second photo




 

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The Outpost Cafe / R.I.P. Jon Lord
« on: July 16, 2012, 10:51:11 AM »


 Sad day.........

Definately one of my fave keyboard player.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-18864409

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 Daunting to post here amongst you guys that do such great work.... ;)

This is just a simple upgrade of the pickup covers on my Burny Thunderbird, stock the hardware is all polished nickel except for the the black plastic pup covers, I like the tone of the pickups - just didn't want black or the mix with nickel. So after some preliminary measuring I found that Mike Lull's covers would likely fit with some easy modification. So as the pics show I stripped the black plastic casing off of the pickups using a Xuron cutter - each pup took about two minutes, very easy! The pickup then needed a new mounting hole on one side and the exsisting got enlarged slightly as it didn't line up with the new cover's holes. Again very easy, I marked the locations and drilled, that done I also made new holes in the body for the repositioned screws. The covers were attached to the pickups with Titebond Industrial adhesive and after drying, screwed back into place with springs providing some tension along with the foam. The rings were added by marking drill locations and making a small pilot hole first then using a larger bit, these were done by hand using a Pin Vise to hold the smaller bits. The bridge pup also got a black spacer made of PG material to hide the sides of the pickup that the cover leaves exposed.
A fun project that didn't take too long  ;D
The stock bass


New cover and ring


The stock pup and the stripping process





And all finished up

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Bass Amps & Effects / New GK Day :)
« on: June 15, 2012, 08:02:28 AM »
 My new amp is well..................Very much like my old amp!
After 7 years ( Hard to belive!) I've decided to move to a new amp. It's really not much of a move however, my Gallien Krueger 1001RBII has been a great amp with plenty of headroom for anything my band does on a regular basis, in fact that's it's only real problem - it's a bit too much amp.
 Our typical shows have me doing one or the other of the following:
-We have good FOH support and my rig is onstage with low volume so I can feel it - the band gets my signal in their IEMs and the PA does the work.
-We are playing a smaller place, like a bar with the band playing as loud as our drummer ( he plays at an average volume ) unmic'd, so my amp provides all the bass.

 In either situation I wasn't working the amp very hard, neither the input gain or master volume were anywhere near noon so the amp wouldn't really "open up" and work hard - GK's like to be pushed a little especially on the input gain side. Also, because of it's higher wattage GK always recommended plugging the amp into a 20 amp circuit without using any extension cords - Not always easily done at some venues we've played so I had a Furman AR1215 Line Voltage Regulator riding around in the road case along with the amp ( there were quite a few times I was happy it was there too, as I'd turn it on an see the incoming voltage as low 98 volts and the GK wouldn't even turn on with so little incoming. ) which made the road case quite heavy and meant I needed a separate case for my IEM gear as well.

 So my solution was to take a step down and try an amp with a bit less wattage that I could "push" a little bit, for me the choice was easy as I've used GK for more than 30years.  A 700RBII was the logical choice ( 480  watts ) with the same front panel layout as my 1001, it's lighter, needs less power and I have to push it to get the volume level  I had before. It also meant I could ditch the the heavy, unloved AR1215, which opened up space in the road case for my IEM gear, so the case got rebuilt slightly just those two on the front side, and a new Furman rack mount plug strip in back - I also added a switched 120volt fan on the back side for increased ventilation.

 So far, I'm really enjoying working with the amp, the band is on a short three week break which has given me time to work it in and adjust some levels on my Line 6 pedal as well. I'm lovin' my GK!   

Here's the old rig with the AR1215 and Mike Lull's Hiwatt DR103 sitting on top.




And the new setup with the 700RBII and my Shure IEM in the front, new plug strip and fan in the back.



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Other Bass Brands / Review! Burny Thunderbird
« on: February 23, 2012, 11:36:40 AM »


A relatively recent and somewhat overlooked offering from Fernandes is this Thunderbird issued as part of their Burny line, after short consideration I gave in to the inevitable GAS and ordered mine thru ebay. Mine was a buy it now auction from a Japanese dealer that included shipping, there was a two day wait as the order processed and was shipped from a central location in Japan to my U.S west coast home, overall time for processing and shipping was actually 5 days (including a Monday postal holiday) and I was able to pick the bass up from my local P.O. rather than have it left on my porch. While the auction stated free shipping, it most certainly is a built - in cost to the price of the bass, ( shipping things costs money, typical EMS for a bass between Japan and the U.S. is $150.00)  in the world of retail that is called a "come on" and it's part of how to sell something to a customer, one price, done deal.
 The bass arrived in a cardbord box well padded  with bubble wrap in a fitted Fernandes gig bag, inside the bass was wrapped in a silver thermal fabric, and it was further protected with the strings being separately wrapped too. So the bass was  actually shipped in factory fresh condition, no one had touched it until I recieved it. So kudos to Fernandes for a great job here, the bass arrived in perect condition due to their careful packaging at the factory. The bass was strung with D'Addario .45 -.105 Nickel Rounds from the manufacturer, bravo! Almost every new bass I've every owned got new strings right away, not this one - the stock strings are what I've kept on the bass for the review. A further surprise tho, was the inclusion of two sets of Warwick Stainless Rounds .45 - .105 as well, very thoughtful!
 Like late '60s Gibson Non Reverse Thunderbirds this bass is of set - neck construction. The body is 3 piece mahogany with a raised ceter block, neck is  maple with a rosewood fret board, 34" scale with a 1.5" nut. The bridge is a copy of Gibson's 3 point design, and interestingly the bass may be strung thru the body, ( unlike any other 'Birds in my collection)  controls are V V T. Several close inspections reveal pretty nice craftsmanship overall, the body shape is very faithfully done, (much better than a standard Epi ) and compares nicely to the Gibson original. The slope of the center block to the base of the fret board is also well executed with clean, tight masking and paint work, Paintwork overall is nice quality poly, with no flaws of any kind, and a nice Cream White color for a vintage look. Fret work is surprisingly good, an area that I'm fussy about is fret sprout on the neck, a couple of my Gibsons needed some filing here as they got older and the wood dried out, this bass feels very good right from the box and the neck plays fast and easy. The neck has a volute where the headstock pitches back, something none of my other 'Birds has! it's not large, and while I thought I'd notice it, so far it's a non issue with regards to playability of the bass. Then we get to the headstock........let's say it's big, like almost twice as big as a contemporary Gibson, bigger than a '76 as well, could it be used to paddle a canoe? Yes, unhesitatingly. It's completed with some nicely chromed clover tuners and certainly contributes to this bass's overall vintage look.
 I started playing the Burny seated with everything on the bass at 10 and worked the knobs a bit to achieve some interesting fingerstyle tones, the neck pup solo'd will give a fuller, rounder tone, nice for the bedroom but probably a bit too bassy in a mix by itself. Rolling in some of the bridge pup is quite helpful for note definition and belie's the bass's set neck construction, a somewhat darker tone and more pronounced individual notes. As I played I found myself really winding off the tone knob to about 4 to eq out some unpleasant high end thiness and clicks, etc being generated by playing. What seemed to work best was the neck pup at 10 the bridge at 7 and the tone at 3, at this point I had bass and definition and no finger noise. ( I'm sure some of the clicks are the result of the new strings and have no doubt that as they break in over the next couple weeks that will go away) Playing with pick I found it easy to solo the neck pup and just work the tone knob for a little treble bite and definition, adding the bridge pup tended to take away a little of the bass and brought the mids up.
What I found in either case was that by starting at 10 on the neck pick up and bringing the bridge pup into play really gave the most useful tones, which is a bit different than what I normally do with my other 'Birds. The tone of the pickups is overall quite pleasant, tho not necessarily warm or vintage growly in the way of an older Gibson for example. One thing I noticed as I played was the thickness of the neck in cross section, just slightly bigger than a Gibson.
 Standing up to play quickly revealed two things; one, the bass is light, in fact when I put it on our UPS scale at work it came in under 9lbs easily, lighter than any of my other Thunderbirds. Two, the large headstock and the light weight of the body cause.....you guessed it! Neck dive. No way around it, this bass is going to do it. For some that's an immediate deal breaker and I have no arguement with it. The strap pins are correctly located, at the heel of the neck and at the center of the body edge on the end, so no change to make there. What easily offsets it for me is my choice of strap length (fairly short, slightly above my waist) and how my right contacts and makes slight downward pressure on the body as I play pickstyle. As I said the bass is pretty light, so this is a non-issue for me, but again, others may find it intolerable. I did a couple hours of solo rehearsal no problem at all, and it will be my primary bass at our next show.               
 So what didn't I like? The mixed finish between the black plastic pickup covers and the balance of the chrome hardware is big for me, aesthetically it's displeasing to my eye, all of one or the other (preferably chrome) would be a big improvement. I could do without the string thru body in combination with the 3 point, tho this is a minor  thing. Some larger, better pots would likely help especially since they'd add little to the cost, and while Fernandes has obviously done a fair bit of homework and it shows, tummy cut would be nice. Last, a logo of some kind on the PG, would be appropriate and certainly well deserved.
 Overall at it's price I like this bass (and it's lovable idosyncrasities) very much, there's no comparison to Epiphone's until you get to their  (discontinued ) "Elitist" and it's certainly similar to a Greco or Orville for QC. In some ways it stands up quite well to a current Gibson, costs hundreds less and you get some nice finish choices too. Mine's definetly a keeper - tho it will likely get some chrome covers for the pickups :) 



Pics, and some comparisons.

Obligatory Subaru shot.

With my Classic White '89









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Other Bass Brands / Waterstone Thunderbird 8 string
« on: January 27, 2012, 05:06:04 PM »

 Not my pics.......Someone posted these on TB just thought I's share.

 I don't know anything about the quality or construction so I'll limit my comments to the color.
I like it!




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The Outpost Cafe / Snow Days.... :)
« on: January 18, 2012, 03:26:32 PM »
 A somewhat rare heavy snowfall here in Seattle has allowed me to play hooky from work today, yay!

A wonderful day of Bass Guitars, electric trains and later, view the classic ealy '70 war move "The Battle of Britain"  The plucky R.A.F. vs Goering's boys - Life is good  ;)

Much as it wanted to go for a drive in the snow, the Subu got the day off.......


So many T Birds, nice to have the time and a 200watt practice rig set up  ;D


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Gibson Basses / Uwe's RD and me........
« on: January 13, 2012, 04:14:58 PM »


Hey All,

Here's thoughts about Uwe's new RD, that he's let enjoy for the past month - As always, Thank You, Uwe!

I've the chance to have this new Gibson RD Krist Novoselic for about a month now, playing it at band rehearsals and solo, here's a short review and pics. First, it is - no kidding, a big bass! If you're the slightest timid about strapping on an instrument of size and weight this bass is not for you - just move on. Speaking of straps, I used one of my conventional straps adjusted for a T Bird and found the bass sat very nicely on my shoulder and balanced perfect - no kidding here, perfect. The large all Maple body and slightly reduced size of the headstock vs. the original no doubt help. Inevitably, the question of weight arises, Maple is not known to be a light wood, this bass IS heavy, unfortunately for the review - I went to put it on my digital bathroom scale and found it needed a battery, take my word for it here, it's well over 10lbs., but I didn't find it objectionable thru the course of a 2 1/2 hour rehearsal tho. QC on my example is quite good, a very pleasant surprise, all assembly and parts are very well fitted and finished, and the paintwork was in fact exceptional, black gloss can be very difficult to apply neatly, this bass was flawless, really nice work. Gibson has a reputation, not undeserved for questionable QC, I know I've personally seen some less than stellar work from them, but I'll give high praise to this bass, it's nice. The bass uses Gibson's well known 3 point bridge and has the option of body-thru stringing as well, set-up on this one was average to good, certainly comfy enough to play but I'd tweak it a bit to suit my own fussiness. Unlike the original mid '70s bass this variation uses a pair of Seymour Duncan pickups (STK-J2N and STK-J2B) which are a modified design with better hum cancellation and are similar to what Krist used in his original modified RD. I found the neck to easy playing even with my small hands, the profile is rounded, a bit thicker than a T-Bird, and the fret ends were nicely dressed - of note is the  volute on  neck at the nut, I was really prepared to not like this, none of my other basses have one, it's likely purpose is the provide strength as the headstock angles back from the neck. As I played the bass I found it to be a complete non-issue, actually comforatble. Overall the bass has an extremely solid, well made feel to it, I'd bet you could toss it as Krist did his original and likely suffer greatly if it struck you - all with relativly little damage to itself!

 At rehearsal with the band I kept both pickups all the way up and worked the tone knob just a little, I'm primarily a pick player and found it easy to get a nice tone with minimal EQing, I found it to be overall rather Fenderesque but darker, likely as a result of the set neck construction. The J bass pickups are certainly the reason for this -  incidentally the misalignment of the pole pieces and the strings had no discernable consequence, no volume differences between strings, etc, note decay is what you'd expect from this design pickup, sharp attack with a quick fall off. It passed thru a rather spirited rehearsal with flying colors, I'd gig with his bass! Later I spent some time with it in my upstairs music room enjoying playing the bass while practicing band music, I try to keep up on my fingerstyle here too. Seated with one leg crossed the bass again balances well with no issues. Dialing out the neck pup and working the bridge only I found the tone a bit thin, varying hand position changed this a little, but realistically you'll likely always want a bit of the pup in the mix to get some bass responce. Soloing the neck pup proved to be a more useful exercise, fingerstyle playing and variation of hand placement give much better result tonally. Overall I like what this bass accomplishes, it's certainly versitile enough.

 At some point aesthetics will enter the conversation,  RD's are likely a love it or leave sort of bass for most folks, personally I find them a bit brutish, but likeable compared to a  T Bird, the lower bout reminds me of the jaw on a Coho Salmon.  For those that worry about what their bass looks like at a variety of different gigs this bass may not work, for the rest of us, maybe bass that cops a Fender that doesn't look like one. 



Some pics.....
You know it's here 'cause there's a Subaru near  ;)





Neck volute



Playing hand position variations


As Perry Como said " The bluest skies you've ever seen are in Seattle"...Very nice paint finish!


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