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The Outpost Cafe / Re: Ms Ford ...
« on: September 28, 2012, 03:51:39 PM »
Quote from: HERBIE on September 28, 2012, 02:41:32 PM
I know very little about American history, apart from where it intrudes into my 1943-44 Burma research (and that's pretty much one General who was not very keen on "Limeys") where my knowledge is better than average, but I know more of American history than most Americans will ever know of European history, which, curiously enough, if they trace their roots, is theirs...

The British Empire...? It was an "English" invention, which included, and still does, my roots, which are not English...

My wife is American and she's not that au-fait with her countries' history either... been here for nearly 50 years now... kind of redundant to her...

Historically, decadent societies tend to fall... the British are finished, as is their Empire, where the sun has truly set... Where once there were industries, now there is not much more than wasteland...

My grandfather sailed for over 50 years of his life under the "Red Duster", served in both World Wars and was decorated in both; for gallantry during the second one; even survived a German Torpedo and a German mine - one in each War - for some obscure reason they gave him a statue in central London, something to do with being, "The perfect example of what a sailor should be..." I think he was aware of what War meant...
My father's platoon was wiped out by Japanese that were so desperate for food that they resorted to canibalism; he understood it too...
My home Island lost more men in the Great War, per capita, than any other part of my country; every Hebridean Islander understands that...

Me...? I can take all the insults thrown at me... sling away it if makes anyone happy... ;D

As I understand it, however, you are actually Scottish.  That being the case, I think most Americans wouldn't know of any insults to hurl at Scotland.  It has been my personal observation--and this falls into the anecdotal category--that Americans very rarely have anything negative to say about Scotland (or Ireland.)

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: Ms Ford ...
« on: September 28, 2012, 03:44:30 PM »
Quote from: godofthunder on September 28, 2012, 03:24:43 PM
Very true Kenny. "but I know more of American history than most Americans will ever know of European history, which, curiously enough, if they trace their roots, is theirs..."

Even much of what is taught as American history in schools is not particularly accurate, though.  So, you've got people out there thinking they know something when, in fact, they really don't.  Of course, I have a feeling that its a rare thing for any country to teach its own history very objectively to its children.  Cynical as this may sound, I know too much about human nature to think otherwise. 

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: Ms Ford ...
« on: September 28, 2012, 02:04:43 PM »
Quote from: nofi on September 28, 2012, 07:51:53 AM
when i was a kid in new york in the fifties some high schools already had soccer teams. it's been getting more popular ever since. hence the term soccer mom.

btw,you guys are so friggin' clever.

remember the american revolution, kenny? and the war of 1812. :rolleyes:

and of course you all remember that little party called WW2. >:(

i think we helped a bit on that last one. so crack your
yank' jokes if you must and be glad you're not goose stepping to the market.



I think you should be aware of the fact that Kenny is writing a book on World War II and his father participated in some of the most intense fighting.  So did mine.  Someone like Kenny is incapable of saying anything offensive, quite frankly, for many reasons.  As for anti-Americanism, oh, it's out there and I could easily point anyone to it.  But there isn't any at all on this forum.  I'm as pro-American as it gets (while also loving Europe, or at least substantial parts of it) and this is the way I see it here, for what it's worth. 

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: Mike Love kicks everybody out of the Beach Boys
« on: September 27, 2012, 11:49:01 AM »
Quote from: gweimer on September 27, 2012, 11:40:06 AM
Exactly how does one think that kicking out Brian Wilson, no matter how screwed up the guy might be, makes any sort of sense.

As I recall, it's Wilson's name on all those hit songs, not Love's.

I agree, but obviously Mike Love doesn't.  It seems he thinks rather highly of himself, though. 

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The Outpost Cafe / Mike Love kicks everybody out of the Beach Boys
« on: September 27, 2012, 11:09:00 AM »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/26/beach-boys-dump-three-members-public-statement-uk-tour_n_1916065.html?utm_hp_ref=entertainment

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: Ms Ford ...
« on: September 27, 2012, 10:35:47 AM »
Quote from: uwe on September 27, 2012, 10:31:02 AM
Ayn Rand should show up too.

If that's the case, then my only thought is--Please God, no. 

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: Ms Ford ...
« on: September 27, 2012, 08:31:19 AM »
Quote from: Denis on September 26, 2012, 06:23:40 PM
"Penultimate" is a great word!

My sister had a neighbor in New Orleans who seemed to want to use that word every chance he got.  I heard him say it so many times, I can no longer even hear the word without thinking of him.  An extremely intelligent guy, but he hated work probably more than anyone I've ever seen. 

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: Billy Joe smashes his Gibson
« on: September 26, 2012, 10:02:28 PM »
Quote from: gweimer on September 26, 2012, 08:37:25 PM
They've got one good song.  Good enough to make 27 different versions of it.   :mrgreen:

I'm going to have to say I honestly don't know enough about Green Day to know what you mean, unless you're saying most of their songs sound the same.  Since they're labeled punk--even though it seems most people don't think they really are--I've stayed away from their music.  Pretty much the same as I stay away from most punk/punk-related music.  I've listened to three songs by them--the American girl song, the September song, and one other song that I don't know the title of.  I know they're known for doing an album called American Idiot, but I've never listened to it.   

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: Billy Joe smashes his Gibson
« on: September 26, 2012, 08:19:20 PM »
Quote from: Denis on September 26, 2012, 06:25:07 PM
No doubt another band I don't know much about. :)


A band I don't know much about is Green Day themselves.  I've only listened to a few of their songs.  I suppose I must have been wrong, but I didn't realize they ever took themselves seriously.  I thought they were just trying to have fun.  Here is an example of what I'm talking about:



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The Outpost Cafe / Re: Billy Joe smashes his Gibson
« on: September 25, 2012, 02:05:02 PM »
Quote from: uwe on September 25, 2012, 07:58:41 AM
They're not the first band to throw a tantrum re an allotted slot, Blackmore delayed DP's California Jam gig uintil the last minute (locking himself into his trailer) to make sure they could use the light show, then overran and destroyed the stage with his Marshall explosions to make sure that the last band on the bill - ELP - could not play.

30 minutes is of course short for any band to get into gear, but it has been done before without such hiccups (Bandaid) and Green Day knew what they were buying into.

The band as such leaves me cold, but I don't dislike them, they are your typical post-punk bar chord chuggers, melodic yes, but not riff-oriented enough for my taste. Girl rock. For some reason women prefer simplistic chord oriented music over riff oriented songs, most likely because it is close to the singer/songwriter stuff they also like, albeit electrified and played faster. Think about it: There are relatively few riff-oriented rock bands especially popular with women, U2, Coldplay, Snow Patrol, My Chemical Romance, The Strokes and Kings of Leon all tend to be chord-chuggerish.

U2, Coldplay, Snow Patrol...go no further.  You have just named three of my least favorite bands, period.  How Snow Patrol can be considered an actual band anyway is beyond me, since they have no talent whatsoever.  U2 and Coldplay=infinite boredom.  I guess I'm into the riff-oriented stuff for keeps, even though girls may prefer the chord-oriented music.  I have never even thought of it in these terms, but thanks for that insight.  It makes things a little clearer and may also explain why there are certain bands I can't stand, but they are really popular with a lot of other people. 

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The Bass Zone / Re: Taking the family to see Cheap Trick tonight!
« on: September 24, 2012, 07:35:48 AM »
All of that must have really been great fun. 

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: Billy Joe smashes his Gibson
« on: September 23, 2012, 12:42:02 PM »
http://www.bostonherald.com/track/celebrity/view/20120923rep_green_days_billie_joe_armstrong_getting_treatment/srvc=home&position=also

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The Bass Zone / Re: Taking the family to see Cheap Trick tonight!
« on: September 22, 2012, 08:13:01 AM »
That should be interesting.  Long ago, I can remember I came so close to seeing them, actually even had the tickets.  But weather and other things prevented me from going.  I've always liked Cheap Trick. 

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The Bass Zone / Re: Great Craigslists salesman
« on: September 21, 2012, 07:11:37 AM »
So, it appears that the price is solid, but not so solid as the case which isn't included. 

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: Germany: not as dull as you thought
« on: September 20, 2012, 01:02:18 PM »
Quote from: TBird1958 on September 20, 2012, 12:22:01 PM

 Can I get an Amen!    ;D

Actually, I quoted you today in talking to another member of this board about another board (which will go unnamed.)  You had said the other board had a high "moron" factor.  I felt that expressed my views perfectly, and although I don't remember the topic now, your comment has stuck with me. 

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