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The Bass Zone / Re: Randy Meisner
« on: September 16, 2012, 08:20:06 AM »
Timothy B. Schmit is from California.  He ended up with the Carvin bass just by chancing upon one in a California store, the only place I know of where they sell Carvins in a store.  

Edit:

I didn't see the other post mentioning Schmit. 

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The Bass Zone / Re: Randy Meisner
« on: September 16, 2012, 08:15:38 AM »
I thought Glenn Frey actually did look like he belonged to the Old West in those photos, even more than the others.  But he definitely is a city slicker.  Also, I appreciate his shamelessness now more than ever. 

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: EVH nearly killed by Master Cleanse diet?
« on: September 16, 2012, 08:08:10 AM »
Leaving aside the sheer technical aspects, which seem to be a sine qua non now for almost any discussion, I find Van Halen to be a little dreary and clinical compared to the raw energy of Hendrix's playing.  There seems to be a lot of bashing of Van Halen--the band lately.  I'd rather not be accused of that, or even be accused of complaining that Wolfgang is playing bass now.  It's his life and he seems to be doing pretty well at playing anyway.  I guess I was just never much of a Van Halen fan in the first place, even not really liking very much what they did with "California Girls."  It seems the Beach Boys did a superb job with that in the first place.  My point is just that I like Hendrix quite a bit better than EVH. 

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The Bass Zone / Re: Randy Meisner
« on: September 16, 2012, 05:21:49 AM »
Quote from: HERBIE on September 15, 2012, 02:29:44 PM
Never a good trip, Stjofön, never a good trip... commiserations and enjoy the memories... I had a round trip of 1500 when I sorted my fathers place and on the way home, which I just wanted to do, I did it in the day, 0500 for the ferry and home at 2300... that was not a good trip, but I still have the memories...

Michael... the cover was from the set of the promo video, so I read some years back, as was the "dead-outlaw/gunslinger" shot with JD Souther and Jackson browne - Henry Diltz shot the cover and a shed load of other shots - it was a "short"...

Not that it probably matters so much now, but I always thought the Desperado photos had an authentic Old West look to them. 

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The Bass Zone / Re: Randy Meisner
« on: September 15, 2012, 10:47:10 AM »
In just now looking up the year HC was released--because I actually believed it was before 1977--I noticed in Wikipedia that the working title of the song was "Mexican Reggae."  So it appears the faux reggae sound on it must have been intentional from the first. 

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The Bass Zone / Re: Randy Meisner
« on: September 15, 2012, 09:00:34 AM »
"Blueberry Hill.  My parents had it on 78 but it was obvious that they weren't very keen that I listen to it.  It was my introduction to questionable lyrics and I developed a fascination for such things which continues to this day.  This thread has now officially moved as far away as is humanly possible from discussing Randy Meisner's bass on "Hotel California."   LOL.




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The Bass Zone / Re: Randy Meisner
« on: September 15, 2012, 07:35:38 AM »
Quote from: HERBIE on September 14, 2012, 04:47:40 PM
... and another inane posting from me...

This Eagles tune, "Got To Get You In The Mood", goes right back to the very start, the B-side of the original release of "Take It Easy"; never appeared on anything else and not now commercially available - absolutely no reason I can understand - classically Frey tune (slightly corny lyrics), great bass and a nice Leadon solo with sweet harmonies... completely forgotten...



The lyrics may be a little corny, but the song's message comes through crystal clear. 

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The Bass Zone / Re: Randy Meisner
« on: September 15, 2012, 07:24:46 AM »
Quote from: HERBIE on September 14, 2012, 04:08:02 PM
Oh yeah, the Eagles made a video short for the Desperado album I've never managed to find - anyone know a source for it...? I've seen plenty of stills from it but never the video...

I wasn't even aware of the existence of this. 

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The Bass Zone / Re: Randy Meisner
« on: September 14, 2012, 07:14:30 AM »


An example of why Desperado is a great album. 

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The Bass Zone / Re: Randy Meisner
« on: September 14, 2012, 05:29:24 AM »
The influence of the Allman Brothers was tremendous, in my opinion.  They were like the gods of Southern rock, with all due respect to other bands, of course.  The Marshall Tucker Band, great band, of course, but I never thought they were in the Allman Brothers league.  I did once see Marshall Tucker in concert, but it didn't change my opinion any. 

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The Bass Zone / Re: Randy Meisner
« on: September 14, 2012, 04:52:20 AM »
Quote from: dadagoboi on September 13, 2012, 01:29:34 PM
Henley's on record as being heavily influenced by the ambiguity of Steely Dan's lyrics and making a conscious attempt to do similar on Hotel California.

Felder was a Gainesville, Florida musician whose early claim to fame in the late '60s was as a blues player in the B.B. King mold with a jazz influenced band called Gingerbread.  They changed their name to Flow, went to NYC, cut a record with Rudy Van Gelder and broke up.  He got to hear a lot of twin guitar stuff long before Wishbone Ash formed.

I understand that Steely Dan seems to be highly revered in some circles, but I have to say I never much got into the music.  I think I do remember reading somewhere, though, that the Eagles were influenced by them.  There may be a connection there, but I don't hear it.

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The Bass Zone / Re: Randy Meisner
« on: September 13, 2012, 04:16:10 PM »
It does mean something to still have the vinyl albums like those Rick Nelson albums.  I used to have about the first five Linda Ronstadt albums until a guitarist "borrowed" them and I never saw them again.  He also got part of my Hendrix albums. 

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The Bass Zone / Re: Randy Meisner
« on: September 13, 2012, 02:32:20 PM »
Quote from: nofi on September 13, 2012, 02:16:50 PM
in uwe's world every band is shaped by one of his favorites. you can look it up. ;D

Like Chekhov on Star Trek who is always claiming that anything of importance was invented by the Russians? 

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The Bass Zone / Re: Randy Meisner
« on: September 13, 2012, 12:56:04 PM »
Quote from: uwe on September 13, 2012, 08:55:57 AM
Outlaw Man was actually the first Eagles song I ever heard in the early seventies. Loved the chorus immediately and the lyrics seemed ... so bad-ass dangerous. (LOL - Glenn Frey and sounding bad-ass dangerous!) It was on this compilation:



which opened a whole new world of rock to me, every track on that double album was a cracker. I didn't know what to like best, I wore the grooves of that darn thing thru. It's fair to say that those two dozen tracks - only a few of them what you would call heavy rock back then, much less heavy metal today -  shaped my musical taste to this day, the ones I considered then (and still today) iconic in bold type:

Kick Out The Jams - MC5
Iron Man - Black Sabbath
I'm Eighteen - Alice Cooper
Freedom - Jimi Hendrix
Must Be Love - James Gang
Smoke On The Water - Deep Purple
Bang A Gong (Get It On) - T.Rex
Give It To Me - J. Geils Band
 b]Right Place Wrong Time - Dr. John [/b]
D'yer Mak'er - Led Zeppelin
Bluebird - Buffalo Springfield
Cindy Incidentally - Faces
Touch me - The Doors
Ramblin' Man - Allman Brothers Band
Only You Know And I Know - Delaney & Bonnie
Domino - Van Morrison
Outlaw Man - Eagles
Starship Trooper - Yes
Radar Love - Golden Earring
Johnny B. Goode - Grateful Dead
What A Shame - Foghat
Stealin' - Uriah Heep
Lonely Feelin' - War
Ride Captain Ride - Blues Image


"Ride Captain Ride" may have been more iconic, but the B side got a lot of attention, too.  It's still a great song, though, with a more outdated sound than the A side. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3RkFSWh1dM&feature=related

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The Bass Zone / Re: Randy Meisner
« on: September 13, 2012, 05:49:02 AM »
Quote from: HERBIE on September 12, 2012, 03:56:04 PM
A fairly big influence on my early playing - On The Border was my third LP...

Always liked this one of his... nice bass line...



Frey singing this one but post 3.00 there's even a bass solo of sorts...? not one of theirs, a cover of a David Blue song...



"Outlaw Man" certainly does fit in well with the rest of the album despite being a cover. 

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