Soldering volume pots

Started by copacetic, September 19, 2014, 11:56:26 AM

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copacetic

Been doing some repairs on a few basses. Need to do some soldering work for connection pots etc. My local hardware said I should check the amount of degrees to make sure not too hot or enough heat to melt the solder... Any advice on the type or degrees for a soldering gun?

slinkp

I know from experience that pots are hard to solder - specifically, the ground connection to the pot's case for shielding purposes.
That needs more heat than you need for most basic electronics work, and may need some flux too.

I suck at it. My only advice is get advice from someone who doesn't suck at it, and don't be like me :)

The lugs are easy though.
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drbassman

When soldering pots, the main thing is to be sure the pot is clean, no grease, oil, even oil form your fingers can mess us the adhesion.  I use a 100 watt iron and standard electronic instrument solder, the high quality stuff.  Can't recall the specs.  When heating up the spot I'm working on I keep the iron on the wire and apply the solder from the side.  Once I get a good bead built up, I turn the iron off and keep it on until I can see that the solder is cool enough it won't let go when I remove the iron.  Not necessarily the text book method, but it works for me.  I don't use flux on pots.
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exiledarchangel

Also it helps if you scratch a bit the pot surface with a piece of sandpaper, but be careful to cover the scratched area completely with solder to avoid corrosion.
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Pilgrim

I use a Hakko soldering station:



Having variable temp handy is very nice.  Got this on Ebay a couple of years ago. 

I agree about cleaning the surface of the pot.  The pot acts as a heat sink and you need enough heat to get it to soldering temp before you cook its internals.
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Lightyear

My two cents worth is to make sure your iron is completely hot and to melt a bit of solder onto the tip before you touch it to anything.  This will help conduct the heat to your components.  That and keep your tip clean  ;)

Highlander

I still have quite a bit of high-lead content solder down the shed that I use... mostly tend to use a quick-heat type or my gas-solder tool for smalls works that I use for work - up to temp pretty quick and has a protective cover that means I can but it straight back in the tool belt...
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Pilgrim

Quote from: Highlander on September 19, 2014, 04:46:32 PM
I still have quite a bit of high-lead content solder down the shed that I use... mostly tend to use a quick-heat type or my gas-solder tool for smalls works that I use for work - up to temp pretty quick and has a protective cover that means I can but it straight back in the tool belt...

I have this image of a well-stocked tool belt.

Repeat after me:  "I'M BATMAN!"  :P
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Rob

Sand the pot
Tin the wire
Get a small bead to stay on the pot
combine the two pieces
clip and wire tips extemding from the little pool of solder.

chromium

Quote from: Pilgrim on September 19, 2014, 02:01:05 PM
I use a Hakko soldering station:



I love that iron... I've gotten a lot of mileage out of my Hakko 936.  Too bad they stopped making 'em




I usually run mine at around 725 deg for PC board work, and maybe 775-800 deg for soldering to potentiometer cans.


Quote from: Highlander on September 19, 2014, 04:46:32 PM
I still have quite a bit of high-lead content solder down the shed that I use... mostly tend to use a quick-heat type or my gas-solder tool for smalls works that I use for work - up to temp pretty quick and has a protective cover that means I can but it straight back in the tool belt...

Kester 44 and I go wayyy back.  So nice to work with.  The RoHS directive is such a pain in the a$$ for musical instruments.  I get why the EU is so strict on this (what with today's mobile devices ending up in a landfill in 3-5 years)... but for restoration work and building music gear that is possibly dependent on defunct parts (ge diodes, old through hole components, etc) leaded is sometimes the only way to go.

I just recently switched to lead-free for new builds, but would still go back to leaded for restoration work or guitar mods.

Dave W

I've never had to sand the back of the pot. Then again, it depends on your equipment.

drbassman

Quote from: Dave W on September 20, 2014, 09:44:00 PM
I've never had to sand the back of the pot. Then again, it depends on your equipment.

Sanding is a common practice among plumbers before soldering copper.  The scratches and clean surface make a nice place for the solder to grab onto.  The real problem is grease and oil.  A clean pot is a happy pot when it comes to soldering.
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amptech

Quote from: Dave W on September 20, 2014, 09:44:00 PM
I've never had to sand the back of the pot. Then again, it depends on your equipment.

Good pots donĀ“t need sanding. There are of course some cheap chinese ones that is tough to solder.

Highlander

Quote from: Pilgrim on September 20, 2014, 11:26:02 AM
I have this image of a well-stocked tool belt.

Repeat after me:  "I'M BATMAN!"  :P

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