Gibson Nonreverese reissuie a reality

[uwe]

The stiffness of vintage wood - that does make me look forward more lightheartedly ...

I wouldn't want to bake anything though, that probably hurts.

[TBird1958]

 Mmmmmmm.........stiff wood 

[gweimer]

 Mmmmmmm.........stiff wood 

Walk on gilded splinters.

[Pilgrim]

That reinforces the point about improperly dried wood.  The modern process is much speeded up compared to when lumber didn't go from tree to kiln so quickly.  This allowed an initial stabilizing period of air drying, especially imported logs that had been cut a long time before they got to the kiln.

That's my exact thought.  By and large, lumber of any type today hits the market with more moisture than was common 40 years ago.  It's as true for specialty woods as it is for general lumber.  No one is willing to age and dry it very thoroughly.

[Hörnisse]

All this talk about wood!

[Denis]

Speaking of Gibson Non Reverses, what's the word, Thunderbird? Any news on delivery dates yet?

[godofthunder]

 Still waiting.................................

[drbassman]

Makes me think of baked apples, baked Alaska, etc.  I'll take a chance on one.  Replacing the fretboard with rosewood later on if the maple goes "bad" wouldn't be that hard to do.

[Highlander]

[drool] We have a Bramley just outside the sun-lounge door, with the apples pretty close to picking... mmm, mmmm [/drool]

[drbassman]

Still waiting.................................

I've heard everything from 6 weeks to 6 months!  Who knows with the Gibson gang?

[godofthunder]

lol yeah I get a different answer every time. It's pretty much when they show up they show up.

[Lightyear]

Yeah, I've heard that mentioned before but in the last factory tour video that was posted Jim Hall says something along the lines of "Billybob here is assembling necks on basses by install karflamulated maple between two pieces of maple".  I'll have to dig around for the video again - my memory has failed me before

Baked maple may be an alternative to rosewood but it's just isn't the same - now if it were impregnated with some type of resin or polymer that truly altered its tonal and wear characteristics.... 

Found it here at 6:07  : http://bassoutpost.com/index.php?topic=6870.0

JH is talking about a 330/360 neck something along the lines of "...laminated neck with radified maple" ?

[Dave W]

Found it here at 6:07  : http://bassoutpost.com/index.php?topic=6870.0

JH is talking about a 330/360 neck something along the lines of "...laminated neck with radified maple" ?

He's saying retified. See this RRF discussion from earlier this year: http://www.rickresource.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=403942

Very interesting, since he says it's harder and more stable. The linked pdf gives some further detail. That doesn't mean this is what Gibson is doing, but it certainly could be.

[drbassman]

I chatted with Kurt at the HOG yesterday and he was on the phone with the Gibson rep.  The rep said a couple months for the NR and then the Midtown basses will come out after that.  For what it's worth, these guys are never right in my experience.  So, take it for what it is.

[Lightyear]

He's saying retified. See this RRF discussion from earlier this year: http://www.rickresource.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=403942

Very interesting, since he says it's harder and more stable. The linked pdf gives some further detail. That doesn't mean this is what Gibson is doing, but it certainly could be.

Thanks Dave!  The PDF was very interesting and to my mind this sounds like what Gibson is doing.  Retifcation is a registered mark of a French company and it looks like the French did indeed develop this concept.  After reading the article I'm less skeptical of the baked maple than I was and I have to say I'm somewhat optomistic about it even though the article stated that some slight loss of mechanical strength is expected.  The true test will be several months of testing with some round wound Rotosounds