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[Highlander]

 

[exiledarchangel]

Very nice work!

[uwe]

Here is one of our own, VERY busy verse playing and, yes, I do admit*** that inspiration for the chorus bass melody part (two tracked with an EB-0F, one on-board fuzz signal and one clean mudbucker signal) came from Herr Jim Lea's bass riff melody on Slade's Gudbuy T'Jane ...  



As before: No guitars yet on this take and the vocals are guide vocals. Bass played (other than the chorus bass melody) was my newish Ripper II. User name raintunes, password plainingjet ...





*** No use denying it, Scott would have spotted it immediately anyway!!!

[Freuds_Cat]

If you are going to borrow, borrow from the best I say. Very nice and sometimes unexpected note choice. I love things that cause me to double take and hold my attention then win me over. I'd love to hear them both with the full production.

[uwe]

Note choice covers my inherent weakness: I'm just not fast on bass. Kids who've played bass for two years are faster than me. In thirty years of bass playing I've improved in pretty much everything, but I'm still not good at lightning-fast runs, it's like I have this concrete barrier in me. Must be a physical thing, it certainly doesn't come from lack of playing. So stuck with the realization that no matter what I'd do I'd never be a flashy player, I started looking into notes, melodies, harmonies etc.  

And then I noticed that unless you do a fast run on your own in a break or something (and then preferably slapped!), the general public doesn't recognize if you are playing a fast melody run in a song, but they do recognize if you play something slowly melodic and it makes them take notice becaue most people (who are not bass players) don't realize that a bass can be melodic. And frankly, most guitarists I have met have no idea what they are doing harmonically, circle of fifths, parallel keys, they just don't get it at all. In thirty years of playing with guitarists I haven't met one who would be able to answer the question: "What is the parallel major key to A minor?" much less explain what determines a parallel key. Somehow, they know by ear that C major and A minor go together well, but if you tell them that A minor 7 and C major 6 are made up of the same four notes they are baffled. So I'ved learned over time that guitarists find it more impressive if you play a solitary F# to their D major chord than some quick run based around the root note. What gullible creatures they are!    

[Pilgrim]

In my case the guitarists know more theory than I do, but they help me out.  It just takes me long enough to calculate I > IV > V that I can't do it on the fly unless it's a simple repeating pattern that comes around enough to play with.

That's why I like 20/30 takes at rehearsal to get motor memory going. Of course, this doesn't apply to "Who Do You Love", which is just E-EEEE-DD-E-EEEE-DD-E-EEEE-DD, etc.

[Highlander]

Just playing the intro notes for Van Morrison's Just Like Greta made my lot happy... less can be so much more...

(Nice, btw, but preferred the 1st one...)

[Freuds_Cat]

 I have never aspired to the soloist thing and I guess the most important thing to me has always been supporting the song melodically which generally means the vocalist but not always. I used to be able to play very fast when I was gigging 4 nights a week , which I did for about 10 years straight. these days my chops suffer mostly due to not enough time on the fingerboard and averaging 2 shows a month. I can still play reasonably fast but I find it sounds a little stilted now.

Getting back to what you were saying, Speed is only just another tool on the palette anyway. Different ppl have different favorite tools to others thankfully. Cant imagine Duck Dunn doing Victor runs. And as much as Victor impresses me I dont think I'd like to either.

[gweimer]

It turns out that we did have a camera crew at our last gig.  Here's the full twin combo rig in action.  It's not broken down into songs, so you get the whole set.  My favorite starts at about 16:30, and our last song.  My vocals pretty much suck.  Serves me right not to get more monitor...

[Highlander]

Nice sound from your Fanfret... what was the other one you were using...?

[gweimer]

Nice sound from your Fanfret... what was the other one you were using...?

That's the Holy Crap bass.  Epiphone ET-288M, with Bartolinis in it.  It's what I call my paint peeler.

[Highlander]

I remember... just couldn't see the back...

[gweimer]

We did the recording for the CD yesterday.  Working title is Dead Band Walking.  This is the Embassy, running through a DI and the Eden.  God, I love this bass.  It was like screwing an old girlfriend and wondering why you ever broke up with her in the first place.  And, yes, I dropped a clam about 2/3 through the song. 

[nofi]

usually only the bass player notices his own mistakes.

[Freuds_Cat]

  And, yes, I dropped a clam about 2/3 through the song. 

Is that what that was?  I just thought it was Jazz 

Good stuff Gary and........ nice analogy!