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Re: Music videos that feature EB0 to EB4 and SG variant basses...
« Reply #870 on: July 18, 2019, 03:45:46 AM »
I had to look it up.  He doesn't.

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« Reply #871 on: July 18, 2019, 06:51:29 AM »
I had to look it up.  He doesn't.

Maybe not in the same place, but either he goes into the chorus before Ronson some place in that song, or all my Aladdin copies are mixed wrong 8)

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« Reply #872 on: July 18, 2019, 07:23:05 AM »
amptech is right. Maybe not the same place, I'll have to go back and listen. But as soon as I read that, I was thinking the same thing.

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Re: Music videos that feature EB0 to EB4 and SG variant basses...
« Reply #873 on: July 18, 2019, 08:53:10 AM »
I think I know what you guys mean.
There's a bit of a messy part at 0:37 when they go into the chorus for the first time. There it sounds like Bowie missed the cue  ;D
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« Reply #874 on: July 18, 2019, 12:28:52 PM »
Wait, wait: TotP was not lipsyched?

I see the guitars and vocal mic are actually got cables plugged into them (they sometimes got real lazy about that, especially later in the 80s), but no mics on the drums and I see no PA (where's that mic cable goin?)... amp lights don't appear to be on (studio lights can make that hard to see, but there were a few close passing shots). Vocals are very different in terms of treatment and cadence of delivery.  Could just be actual live singing over instrumental backing track (possibly not same take as album version to throw people off - seriously, it was not rocket science but th REC COs thought that way).  Or totally live, but I'm a skeptic.
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Re: Music videos that feature EB0 to EB4 and SG variant basses...
« Reply #875 on: July 19, 2019, 02:12:01 AM »
Wait, wait: TotP was not lipsyched?

I see the guitars and vocal mic are actually got cables plugged into them (they sometimes got real lazy about that, especially later in the 80s), but no mics on the drums and I see no PA (where's that mic cable goin?)... amp lights don't appear to be on (studio lights can make that hard to see, but there were a few close passing shots). Vocals are very different in terms of treatment and cadence of delivery.  Could just be actual live singing over instrumental backing track (possibly not same take as album version to throw people off - seriously, it was not rocket science but th REC COs thought that way).  Or totally live, but I'm a skeptic.

I do think it is some sort of a live recording.
The drums do have a mic at the kick and I see an overhead mic. But I don't see a mic near the snare though.

Sometimes they had the band record a live instrumental version especially for the tv performance. And then have the lead vocal done live at the actual broadcasted version. I remember seeing a Thin Lizzy performance on TotP with a similar set up. Can't remember which song... :-[


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« Reply #876 on: July 19, 2019, 07:13:09 AM »
I'm pretty sure they settled for a bass drum mic and one overhang just like that. They could've used a second overhang if it wass needed but he never plays the toms anyway so why bother?

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Re: Music videos that feature EB0 to EB4 and SG variant basses...
« Reply #877 on: July 19, 2019, 08:27:51 AM »
Sometimes they had the band record a live instrumental version especially for the tv performance. And then have the lead vocal done live at the actual broadcasted version. I remember seeing a Thin Lizzy performance on TotP with a similar set up. Can't remember which song... :-[

It's my understanding that this was pretty standard practice in the 60s/70s. This is a good example:


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« Reply #878 on: July 20, 2019, 12:54:55 AM »

Sometimes they had the band record a live instrumental version especially for the tv performance. And then have the lead vocal done live at the actual broadcasted version. I remember seeing a Thin Lizzy performance on TotP with a similar set up. Can't remember which song... :-[

There's a couple of AC/DC vids from the early 70's done like that, sounds like the album versions except live vocals.

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Re: Music videos that feature EB0 to EB4 and SG variant basses...
« Reply #879 on: July 24, 2019, 06:21:28 AM »
Yeah - that's what I meant - pre-rec music and only live vox.
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Re: Music videos that feature EB0 to EB4 and SG variant basses...
« Reply #880 on: August 10, 2019, 10:24:03 PM »
New York Junk, a year ago. Cynthia Ross (B-Girls) and her Melody Maker bass. You can skip the long winded three minute introduction.


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Re: Music videos that feature EB0 to EB4 and SG variant basses...
« Reply #881 on: August 18, 2019, 08:58:45 AM »
Colin Moulding, Epi Newport.


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Re: Music videos that feature EB0 to EB4 and SG variant basses...
« Reply #882 on: August 19, 2019, 06:30:47 AM »
It's my understanding that this was pretty standard practice in the 60s/70s. This is a good example:



There was a legal obligation when playing on Top of the Pops that you could not use the studio recording from the official recording, you had to record a studio version just for TOTP (which makes these recordings collectible because they sometimes sound quite a bit different to and/or better than the previously recorded official tracks). I believe it had something to do with musicians' union rules for TV work which were back then very restrictive.

It wasn't just confined too TOTP: When Jethro Tull did Too Old  To Rock'n'Roll, Too Young To Die for British TV in the late 70ies, the whole album was (had to be) rerecorded (within a couple of days or so).



Tull actually liked that later, livelier studio version (they are not playing live in the TV show as you can tell, inter alia, by the simultaneous singing and flute playing of Ian Anderson) better and it is what you hear today when you hear the 40th Anniversary remix of  TOTRNR, TYTD. The masters of the original TOTRNR, TYTD only exist in part any more, they were accidentally wiped some years ago.
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Re: Music videos that feature EB0 to EB4 and SG variant basses...
« Reply #883 on: August 22, 2019, 09:48:11 PM »
Local area cover band, I've never seen them live but noticed the Epi Newport in their videos.




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Re: Music videos that feature EB0 to EB4 and SG variant basses...
« Reply #884 on: September 16, 2019, 07:44:52 AM »
The wax figure holds an EB-2 after about 3:00.
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