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Man Imitates Machine Imitating Man
« on: December 05, 2010, 02:40:08 PM »
Part of me gets a kick out of this stuff, even though it borders on a drum clinic at times.  Interesting mix of bebop and electronic "breakbeat" and dub.  The bassist (Foley) is an absolute rock, despite all the poly-rhythmic mayhem!


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Re: Man Imitates Machine Imitating Man
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2010, 03:19:35 PM »
Sorry Joe, I gave up after 60 seconds.

I absolutely despise drummers who work their hardest to lose a bass player. To me it sounds like this guy is really only trying confuse him instead of making music together. Music is about finding each other. Not about getting each other lost.

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BTW why is the bassplayer wearing a road workers coat and hood? Was it raining inside?  :mrgreen:


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Re: Man Imitates Machine Imitating Man
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2010, 04:20:30 PM »
No need to be sorry!  At times its like two songs superimposed on each other, and I'm kinda torn since it borders on more-about-math-than-music.  Sometimes I like that uncomfortable feeling this creates, though (just like with harmonic dissonance)... and then everything drifts back into alignment.  The bit at 3:50 to 4:15 really blows my mind.  I got a kick out of a comment on another one of their vids - "Christ.  Next time just loop the f-----g bass part.  Poor guy." ;D  

I saw this bass player with Miles Davis in the mid 80s playing piccolo bass (credited on albums as "guitar soloist"), and he apparently does like those hoodies judging by the clips I've seen  ;D

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Re: Man Imitates Machine Imitating Man
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2010, 09:27:23 PM »
i liked that.however if our drummer did the bit a 4.13 where the tempo seems to slow he would find an uncomfortable and alarming new place to hide his drumsticks.
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Re: Man Imitates Machine Imitating Man
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2010, 09:41:01 PM »
i love stuff like this and listen to alot of it. also a great timing/rhythm exercise to put yourself in a situation like this.
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Re: Man Imitates Machine Imitating Man
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2010, 09:45:00 PM »
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i love stuff like this and listen to alot of it. also a great timing/rhythm exercise to put yourself in a situation like this.i reckon.nothing wrong with a good polyrtyhm.the bit i was whinging about just seemed slightly unhelpfull.
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Re: Man Imitates Machine Imitating Man
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2010, 06:18:00 AM »
Sorry Joe, I gave up after 60 seconds...

but somewhat cool to drop perfectly back in at 71 seconds... (Ken)

BTW why is the bassplayer wearing a road workers coat and hood? Was it raining inside?  :mrgreen:

The jacket hides the headphones that give him the "real" drum track that he's sticking-like-cyanoacrylate too... either that or he is a machine ;)

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Re: Man Imitates Machine Imitating Man
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2010, 08:38:54 AM »
I made it to about the one minute mark. Now I'll have to listen to at least an hour of Buck Owens to erase that minute from my memory.


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Re: Man Imitates Machine Imitating Man
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2010, 09:12:14 AM »
I'm amazed you even clicked on it, despite all the warning signs - poly-rhythms, breakbeat, hoodies...!  :o   I always try to give fair warning...  ;D


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Re: Man Imitates Machine Imitating Man
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2010, 11:13:32 AM »
Definitely above and beyond the call of duty... ;)
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Re: Man Imitates Machine Imitating Man
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2010, 10:02:53 PM »
I'm amazed you even clicked on it, despite all the warning signs - poly-rhythms, breakbeat, hoodies...!  :o   I always try to give fair warning...  ;D



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Re: Man Imitates Machine Imitating Man
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2010, 01:08:05 AM »
I don't get it at all, it must be jazz.
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Re: Man Imitates Machine Imitating Man
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2010, 02:09:30 PM »
Fender Jazz...? ;D
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Re: Man Imitates Machine Imitating Man
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2010, 09:53:56 AM »
It's a hypnotic pentatonic bass line with a drum solo over it. Demanding, but still music to my ears and they seem to be enjoying themselves and entertaining those people who like that type of music. Nothing wrong with that. Free your minds, guys.




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Re: Man Imitates Machine Imitating Man
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2010, 12:54:37 PM »
Free your minds, guys.

No thank you.  :P