Get naked......

[Blackbird]

Natrual t-bird for 950 BIN..

http://cgi.ebay.com/Gibson-Thunderbird-IV-Bass-Guitar-2001-/280555564643?pt=Guitar&hash=item41526a2e63

[Lightyear]

That looks very clean!  The price is certainly good too.....

Somebody buy this one before I do and spend the next three months in the dog house

[Dave W]

Always nice to see a reasonable price on one in that condition. If this doesn't go BIN, the economy is worse than I thought.

[godofthunder]

Always liked those, very pretty, bin is gone I may be bidding

[uwe]

And you don't see them in that natural tone a lot at all.

Plus: With those magnificent pups it will blow any similarly looking Bicentennial away!

Uwe

[Dave W]

Plus: With those magnificent pups it will blow any similarly looking Bicentennial away!

[godofthunder]

Never cared for the '76 pups, weak and anemic. I would take the black ones over the '76. If I do end up getting it I might just leave this one alone

[Nocturnal]

My ebony Bird is a 2001 like this one. I love the sound of it more than I like Joe's (Chromium) 70's Bird. No offense Joe 

[TBird1958]

And you don't see them in that natural tone a lot at all.

Plus: With those magnificent pups it will blow any similarly looking Bicentennial away!

Uwe

I'll politely dissent!
I've had all the pups on my '76s on an ohm meter, the weakest was 7.5k, the best 13.2, so inconsistant would be a fair statement, mine produce the "tone" that I want - output isn't a problem thru either of my amps.

Re the nakkie Bird I had one for awhile, but decided to peddle it off when I had the oppourtunity to buy George's black '77, which is still a fave player.
Ex pitters may remember this shot of my fledgling collection.

[uwe]

It's not volume output, Fräulein, it's eveness of signal, string to string response and being able to pick up lowest frequencies. That is where the TB Plus is just better. The Bicentennial pups compress like hell if you play hard, which I know many people like, but I prefer that little extra ooomph in a pup "and if I hit the string harder still, the signal will increase in volume, but not change much"-effect. I'm usually a light player in my pick attack, but do like the dynamics of playing louder via added attack (I've had endless discussions with producers why I do not want my bass compressed in the studio).

What's nice about the Bicentennials though is the way they are wired (parallel?) in their original shape and how - unlike sixties or modern Birds - having both pups full throttle will actually create a fuller sound than just the neck pup.

[Pekka]

What's nice about the Bicentennials though is the way they are wired (parallel?) in their original shape and how - unlike sixties or modern Birds - having both pups full throttle will actually create a fuller sound than just the neck pup.

They are wired in series. Someone with more knowledge will tell more about the wiring which is a bit strange IIRC.

[Daniel_J]

They are wired in series. Someone with more knowledge will tell more about the wiring which is a bit strange IIRC.

Anyone have got a schematic? I tried to do that once, but could not figured it out how to wired two pickups in series, each one with their own volume pot.

[TBird1958]

I'd really like to see that schematic too, I want to rewire my Nikki Sixx mk.II that way.

Herr Moderator, what I found when looking at a display of my black '77s signal was quite surprising, it was producing a lot of sub freq, our guitarist and I worked very hard on my eq for each my basses and in particular the '76s - I always thought they rode in the mix pretty well but it was in fact a bit muddy, basically reducing the lowest bass to slightly less than unity and a bump on the mids really cleaned up my signal.   

[Dave W]

They are wired in series. Someone with more knowledge will tell more about the wiring which is a bit strange IIRC.

Anyone have got a schematic? I tried to do that once, but could not figured it out how to wired two pickups in series, each one with their own volume pot.

See this thread http://bassoutpost.com/index.php?topic=1376.0 -- there are Gibson schematics on page 3 and a discussion.

It's not a series circuit, it's a combination of series and parallel. When you can control the volume of each pickup independently, then they are not wired in series.

[Daniel_J]

It's not a series circuit, it's a combination of series and parallel. When you can control the volume of each pickup independently, then they are not wired in series.

Ok, I get it know. I did came to this solution back when I was trying to figured it out a way to wire them in series, but I thought it was not working the way I wanted.
You need to have both pickups at the same level to have the output in series, with even a little turn of one knob it becomes parallel.
What I wanted was to have one puckup at 10 and gradually roll in the other pickup to add more fullness to the sound.
I guess it cant be done on a passive circuit.