Uncorroberated Gossip ...

Denis · December 09, 2009, 08:36:47 AM

Quote from: Grog on December 08, 2009, 02:50:55 PM
If I refinish my 20/20 black, do you think it will be worth more?

Maybe I should have left my '73 Ripper in the period Smurf Blue brush-on paint. $:-\$

Highlander · December 09, 2009, 08:54:44 AM

The juries out on that idea...

Dave W · December 09, 2009, 09:19:15 AM

Quote from: Chris P. on December 09, 2009, 01:08:30 AM
See my post of the review basses...

What I heard is this.

Like Uwe said in his first post, Gibson is down for 200 million dollar or something. Banks tried to sell it to Hartley Peavey, but they asked too much, so no deal.

Fender is also down with almost the same amount of money, so they won't buy Gibson.

I believe Lakland is also for sale.

The only way the banks could offer Gibson for sale is if they had actually taken possession. They haven't.... yet.

Fender's financial info isn't public, their debt position is a rumor. I do agree that they probably don't have the resources to buy Gibson after buying Kaman.

eb2 · December 09, 2009, 03:08:48 PM

Look on the bright side: if all those old parts could show up on ebay 25 years after they pulled out of Kalamazoo because someone bought an abandoned storage unit, imagine the fun we will all have if they go tits up now! Sure, we will have to wait until 2035, and ebay will probably have worse problems. But I can wait for a semi-finished SGZ bass to come up. Maybe a Nikki Sixx bass with no hardware! Mmmm...

the mojo hobo · December 09, 2009, 04:20:07 PM

Quote from: eb2 on December 09, 2009, 03:08:48 PM
But I can wait for a semi-finished SGZ bass to come up.

Yea, I'm in for that.

SKATE RAT · December 09, 2009, 07:13:00 PM

i really want an SGZ too.

Rhythm N. Bliss · December 10, 2009, 08:27:53 PM

What's an SGZ? Does it come in a lefty?

SKATE RAT · December 10, 2009, 08:31:01 PM

this is an SGZ.late 90's early 00's

uwe · December 11, 2009, 03:33:33 AM

Only those blessed with NOT owning an SG-Z can clamor for one. Owning one is a reality bite. Those basses - I own two - sound limp and were deleted quickly for a reason. An SG-Z compares to an SG-RI like a piece of wonder bread compares to a prime grade steak for nutrition value.

lowend1 · December 11, 2009, 05:10:13 AM

Quote from: uwe on December 11, 2009, 03:33:33 AM
Those basses - I own two

Why? Were they different colors?

SKATE RAT · December 11, 2009, 06:02:49 AM

i just can't get into short scale. the SGZ seems to have all the stuff i would want (34" scale & a TB pup in the middle)why are they "limp"?

exiledarchangel · December 11, 2009, 06:17:02 AM

I guess any SG bass without a neck mudbucker must sound limp.

Iome · December 11, 2009, 06:31:56 AM

Wouldn't it be enough just throwing in a coupple of TB+ pickups to cure the problem? or a mudabuka maybe?

Basvarken · December 11, 2009, 06:35:42 AM

Quote from: exiledarchangel on December 11, 2009, 06:17:02 AM
I guess any SG bass without a neck mudbucker must sound limp.

The SG Bass (EB3) that Gibson makes today has a Thunderbrid pickup lurking under the mudbucker casing.
I've heard very enthousiastic stories about these.

the mojo hobo · December 11, 2009, 06:37:51 AM

Quote from: uwe on December 11, 2009, 03:33:33 AM
Only those blessed with NOT owning an SG-Z can clamor for one. Owning one is a reality bite. Those basses - I own two - sound limp and were deleted quickly for a reason. An SG-Z compares to an SG-RI like a piece of wonder bread compares to a prime grade steak for nutrition value.

Uwe, if it is so bad owning an SG-Z you can send one to me, I like both bread and steak:)