Double kick pedals must be destroyed!

gearHed289 · November 27, 2009, 09:21:17 AM

There seems to be a problem among drummers out there. Everything's going fine, and then, all of a sudden, mid-groove.... here comes a totally unnecessary double kick fill! Why? I think if they're going to subject us to tasteless, gratuitous fills, they should at least be required to lug the other big drum with them! Might make them think twice. LOL! End of rant.....

Dave W · November 27, 2009, 09:59:48 AM

All drummers should strive to be like Victor DeLorenzo.

uwe · November 27, 2009, 10:41:09 AM

The standard heavy metal sixteens notes break splurt sounds tiresome to these ears.

But you can also play music with two bass drums like this man does:

The majority of double bass drum (or double pedal) players I have seen or heard are either not technically good enough to do that stuff or maybe plain unimaginative. They play their standard bass drum patterns on one bass drum and add the other for that repulsive hi-speed "duhduhduhduhduhdudhduhd ..." fill to then revert to the single pedal pattern. How inane.

rahock · November 28, 2009, 06:22:37 AM

The 80-20 percent rule. 80% of the time if a drummer has more than 5-6 drums he's going to be a lousy drummer, the other 20% of the time you've got somebody who can make it work ,and out of that, about half can REALLY make it work.

Those double kick pedals......well, I dunno......I've probably known 3 or 4 guys who can make that work. They just seem too busy

Rick

Rhythm N. Bliss · November 28, 2009, 05:45:07 PM

Saw a damn good Power Trio cover band last night & the drummer played Good Times, Bad Times just like Bonzo the first half then took it BEYOND with Double Bass pedals the second half!!
They were all First Class!!!
The bassman had a beautiful candy P & BIG Ampeg rig & was playing amazingly intricate & fast stuff!!
The lead singer/guitarist was able to be Plant & Page, Perry & Schon, etc.
A supertalented mofo!!

Got in for free & they played LOUD & amazingly for a dozen of us.

gweimer · November 28, 2009, 08:23:16 PM

When I saw the (almost) original Captain Beyond, Bobby Caldwell was doing quads on a single bass kit. He's always been one of my favorites. I was in a band with a guy I went to high school with that was pretty close to perfecting quints on a single bass kit.

Hornisse · November 28, 2009, 09:01:49 PM

I hear ya! I recently quit the band I was in the past 7 years because of the new drummer we got in May. I lasted a whole 2 months and 8 gigs before I had to bail. He has this 5K DW set and our old guy had a basic Yamaha set and could blow the guy away. To me time is everything and he unfortunately had none.

gweimer · November 28, 2009, 09:12:41 PM

My drummer from my pro years was one of the best. He had the big kit, but knew how to work it. I used to joke with a drummer in the circuit who had a small kit (he was envious of the big kit) that he should trade technique with my drummer - he could show him how to work a small kit while my drummer showed him how to work the big kit.

Barklessdog · November 29, 2009, 07:40:02 AM

I remember seeing Billy Cobham with three kick drums. He knew how to use them tastefully.

Its used more now for abusive purposes now in metal

GonzoBass · November 29, 2009, 02:38:37 PM

I've posted this elsewhere,
but here's my drummer's kit in "Spirits in the Rock"-

Just the beat.
A dream of mine come true.

...and notice that 'bass drum' is a converted floor tom, laid on it's side.

Dave W · November 29, 2009, 03:08:41 PM

Now that's more like it!

Barklessdog · December 01, 2009, 05:01:48 AM

We had a drummer with a tiny kit like that once and he rocked the shite out of it. Great drummer doing more with less.

ack1961 · December 01, 2009, 07:09:53 AM

Try listening to Gavin Harrison (Porcupine Tree) play the double kick, or better yet, strap on a bass and groove along.
He's really smooth, can get really fast, but he always seems to keep perfect time.
Colin Edwin has one of the best jobs in the world.

Highlander · December 01, 2009, 02:30:12 PM

The first UK tour Cliff Davies (RIP) made with Ted Nugent (1976) he used a tiny kit that he used whilst in IF; the next tour (1977) he had a monster kit...

Truth be known, he didn't need it... played just as well with the small kit... produced just as good a sound, too...

lowend1 · December 02, 2009, 03:31:05 PM

Quote from: gweimer on November 28, 2009, 08:23:16 PM
When I saw the (almost) original Captain Beyond, Bobby Caldwell was doing quads on a single bass kit. He's always been one of my favorites. I was in a band with a guy I went to high school with that was pretty close to perfecting quints on a single bass kit.

Leonard Haze on the first Yesterday and Today album. Even Carmine sez he has the quickest foot he's ever heard.

Double kick pedals must be destroyed!

Hornisse