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exiledarchangel

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Neck dive is OVER
« on: July 04, 2023, 12:55:02 PM »
GENIOUS! I almost posted it on Gibson subforum :D

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Re: Neck dive is OVER
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2023, 10:24:18 AM »
I see your Mum is taking the divorce well.

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Re: Neck dive is OVER
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2023, 05:12:47 PM »
Another solution in search of a problem.

My SG Special (guitar) doesn't neck dive. My EB-0 doesn't neck dive.

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Re: Neck dive is OVER
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2023, 09:26:19 PM »
My '64 Gibson EB-0 which I played for many years never had neck dive at all.  I never understood why people kept talking about EB-0 neck dive.  It made no sense to me.  That was one of the most well-balanced basses I've ever had.  Maybe other years/models are different.  My fairly new SG Standard also doesn't neck dive.  Yet I've been online at places where people claim for some reason that all SG-type basses neck dive.  What's going on, I really don't know.  Because the ones I play don't.
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Re: Neck dive is OVER
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2023, 04:41:36 AM »
My SG has some dive. If I keep my forearm on the bass it stays , but if I was to lift both arms above my head like Gene … down she’d go.

Not a move I do often.

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Re: Neck dive is OVER
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2023, 04:47:38 AM »
Nah, I would'nt want to walk onstage with a slanted wedgie.

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Re: Neck dive is OVER
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2023, 06:43:00 AM »
My SG has some dive. If I keep my forearm on the bass it stays , but if I was to lift both arms above my head like Gene … down she’d go.

Not a move I do often.

From everything you've posted about the music you play, I can't imagine you doing a Gene move. One Gene Simmons is more than enough.

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Re: Neck dive is OVER
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2023, 08:17:57 AM »
I see your Mum is taking the divorce well.

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Re: Neck dive is OVER
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2023, 01:36:12 PM »
To neck-dive deniers: sadly neck dive is a thing. I found this "out of the box" solution funny enough to post, that's all.

I see your Mum is taking the divorce well.

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« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2023, 02:59:53 PM »
Quite well.  http://frantone.com/

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Re: Neck dive is OVER
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2023, 08:33:27 AM »
The SG-Z, EB-4, EB-0L, EB-3L, SB-400 and -450 all neck-dive. Long scale SG shape basses inevitably do that unless you make the body fatter. I have one Custom Shop long scale SG shape bass where they gave the body almost Les Paul type dimensions. That counters neck dive, but it’s quite removed from the original petite SG body feel.

Does anybody agree with me that the SG has one of the few guitar shapes that looks better slung a little high rather than low?



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Re: Neck dive is OVER
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2023, 10:05:23 AM »
Since I was young, I've definitely preferred the SG slung a little high. 
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Re: Neck dive is OVER
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2023, 11:22:30 AM »
Ya gotta like a lady who sells a pedal called a "Vibutron."

Not to be confused with Woody Allen's Orgasmatron.

The SG-Z, EB-4, EB-0L, EB-3L, SB-400 and -450 all neck-dive. Long scale SG shape basses inevitably do that unless you make the body fatter. I have one Custom Shop long scale SG shape bass where they gave the body almost Les Paul type dimensions. That counters neck dive, but it’s quite removed from the original petite SG body feel.

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Stone me, but I think Fran's clip-on idea is actually pretty nifty. And, man, it's a relief to see a woman just play electric guitar without any low neckline-, spaghetti straps- or theater layer thick makeup-click enhancements. No nose wrinkling either.


That's true of the long scale versions. And I don't doubt that sometimes it happens with SG guitars and short scale basses (as with exiledarchangel's bass), but it's nowhere near as common as so many posts on various forums would have you believe.

Yeah, Fran's all right. It is nifty if you have a neck dive problem with any guitar or bass.

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Re: Neck dive is OVER
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2023, 11:42:43 AM »
Not to be confused with Woody Allen's Orgasmatron.

That's true of the long scale versions. And I don't doubt that sometimes it happens with SG guitars and short scale basses (as with exiledarchangel's bass), but it's nowhere near as common as so many posts on various forums would have you believe.

Yeah, Fran's all right. It is nifty if you have a neck dive problem with any guitar or bass.

Those same various forums would also have you believe that all Gibson basses sound like mud and have headstocks that disintegrate  on contact with air. 
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Re: Neck dive is OVER
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2023, 12:44:32 PM »
Not to be confused with Woody Allen's Orgasmatron.


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