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Dave W

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New G&L shortscale
« on: November 05, 2019, 09:44:20 PM »
Fallout Bass launch edition (with video)

Very Competition Mustang looking. Could give the Mustang some real competition. This is Made in Fullerton, pricing not announced yet as far as I can tell.


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Re: New G&L shortscale
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2019, 08:39:08 AM »
Looks like someone found Leo's templates!

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Re: New G&L shortscale
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2019, 10:11:15 AM »
All of a sudden everybody's got a shorty with a single middle humbucker! I am perfectly fine with this being a trend :)

What the heck is OMG position on the switch?
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Re: New G&L shortscale
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2019, 10:35:39 AM »
All of a sudden everybody's got a shorty with a single middle humbucker! I am perfectly fine with this being a trend :)

What the heck is OMG position on the switch?
It should be overwhelming bass.  At least it was on my 1000.

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Re: New G&L shortscale
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2019, 10:39:20 AM »
That's pretty nifty. I lean toward green, but I think I like blue the best.

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Re: New G&L shortscale
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2019, 10:51:04 AM »
What the heck is OMG position on the switch?
Sounds like humbucker in series.
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Re: New G&L shortscale
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2019, 01:18:27 PM »
Just what I need...another nice short scale to have GAS for.  aaarrrgh.
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Re: New G&L shortscale
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2019, 03:21:41 PM »
OMG, you guys!  :mrgreen:

There's a lot of confusion about the OMG position. It puts the coils in series with a .1uF capacitor that severely cuts the highs. Big volume bump over the other positions plus an apparent bass boost that's really a treble cut. On top of that, the controls are Volume, Treble and Bass. The Treble is your common passive tone control, the Bass control is a 1 meg reverse audio taper bass cut control. Turning it up gives the sensation of even more bass.

Definitely one of Leo's own templates. It's the same shape as the G&L SC-2 guitar from the early 80s. The Fallout guitar has been around for 5 or 6 years.

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Re: New G&L shortscale
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2019, 01:57:58 AM »
I love the yellow one!

BTW: this one has volume/tone only

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Re: New G&L shortscale
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2019, 10:19:49 AM »
I love the yellow one!

BTW: this one has volume/tone only

All the Fallout models shown have only volume and tone, I should have looked more closely. My comments about the passive bass cut control apply to the L-1000 controls, but the three-way circuit switching should be the same on the L-1000 and the Fallout.

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Re: New G&L shortscale
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2019, 10:42:12 AM »
I thought you talked about the L-1000 controls, but I thought it would be good to mention this. Your information is always thouroughly researched. I used some ot what you wrote above here for my news item about the G&L, so thanks!

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Re: New G&L shortscale
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2019, 01:47:22 PM »
I also like the yellow one. I wonder who's next? Rickenbacker releasing a serial production shortscale model for the first time in ages?

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Re: New G&L shortscale
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2019, 02:17:19 AM »
Godin has a nice one, Fender/Squier has five or six different Mustangs. There are hollowbodies here and there, maybe a US Epi Rivoli soon. All cool!
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Re: New G&L shortscale
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2019, 02:33:16 PM »
Just what I need...another nice short scale to have GAS for.  aaarrrgh.

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Re: New G&L shortscale
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2019, 09:58:10 AM »
I thought you talked about the L-1000 controls, but I thought it would be good to mention this. Your information is always thouroughly researched. I used some ot what you wrote above here for my news item about the G&L, so thanks!

There has been some confusion about the OMG position, and there may have been circuit variations over the years. There are G&L experts who know much more than I do.

The early instruction sheet for the switch called it “Single Coil mode plus added bass boost” but as far as I can tell, it was never single coil in the OMG position. Even in early examples that have been tested, the DCR in OMG mode is twice the DCR in single coil mode (center switch position), and there's no hum. It was later shown in a schematic as "series humbucking with .1uf capacitor."