Full width inlays

Started by gearHed289, August 29, 2008, 12:30:41 PM

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gearHed289

When did these come back? I wasn't paying attention for a while, and next thing I know, there are new Rics with full width inlays! Kinda cool, though I'm more of a dot fan myself. I don't see anything about them on the Ric web site. Pics?

Bert

'68 4001|'73 4001 MG|'73 4001 AZG (PW refin)|'75 4000 MG|'79 4001 JG FL|'81 4001S AZG|'86 4003 MID/BT|'86 4003 Shadow|'86 4003S JG|'88 4003s Blackstar|'89 4003 Grey/BT FL|'96 4003S/8 FG|'98 4003S/5 JG| 05 650D|06 4004 CII BBR||B-115|RB 30||?

ilan

They were introduced this year and everybody's ecstatic.

It's part of a process that returns some of the old features and proportions, like the 60's body contours with thin horns, longer headstock with walnut wings and 60's style generous "cresting wave", full-width inlays, slimmer neck profile, and even the bass-cut capacitor has made a comeback. Personally I hope next in line is the 60's pickguard shape.

gearHed289

Woo, that's pretty! I'd like to see checkerboard binding come back, even if I'm really an "unbound" kind of guy.  :P

SKATE RAT

i like the other ones more.
'72 GIBSON SB-450, '74 UNIVOX HIGHFLYER, '75 FENDER P-BASS, '76 ARIA 4001, '76 GIBSON RIPPER, '77 GIBSON G-3, '78 GUILD B-301, '79 VANTAGE FLYING V BASS, '80's HONDO PROFESSIONAL II, '80's IBANEZ ROADSTAR II, '92 GIBSON LPB-1, 'XX WAR BASS, LTD VIPER 104, '01 GIBSON SG SPECIAL, RAT FUZZ AND TUBES

bobyoung

I really like the idea of the thinner neck profile, those full width inlays do look nice. I'd like to see the old neck pickup position come bass on 4003's, maybe even with a toaster, the cap is still useless IMHO. Are all 4003's now shipping with the new thinner neck profile? Has anyone tried one yet? Is there a real noticeable difference? If so, how do they compare with late 70's 4001's which are my favorites? Are they still a little wider as they have been for some time?

gearHed289

Quote from: bobyoung on August 30, 2008, 09:14:54 PM
I'd like to see the old neck pickup position come bass on 4003's, maybe even with a toaster

There seems to be a lot of nostalgia around the 1/2'' spacing, but the fact is, the pickup is more correctly centered at the octave harmonic (as is the treble pup) in the 1'' location. Having said that, there's not a whole lot of difference in tone between my Chris Squire (1/2'') and my 4003S (1''), both with the same "hot" toaster in the neck position.

ilan

Quote from: gearHed289 on August 30, 2008, 09:30:28 PM
the pickup is more correctly centered at the octave harmonic (as is the treble pup) in the 1'' location

I never really understood this. That may be true for an open string, but once you fret a string all the harmonics move, don't they?

My guess is they moved the pickup because they wanted more solid wood at the neck/body joint, to prevent neck collapse problems which are not rare with old Rics.

I once asked John Hall if he will consider moving the pickup back to the 1/2" location. His reply: "Not going to happen."

Bert

Quote from: bobyoung on August 30, 2008, 09:14:54 PM.....
Are all 4003's now shipping with the new thinner neck profile? Has anyone tried one yet? Is there a real noticeable difference? If so, how do they compare with late 70's 4001's which are my favorites? Are they still a little wider as they have been for some time?

I have played the one from the full width picture above (which is for sale in holland btw). It is wider than my '73 4001 MG and my '86 4003 MID/BT and about just as wide as my '06 4001c64. It is a lot thinner than my former '99 4003 JG though and probably thinner (but wider) than my '79 4001 FL .
'68 4001|'73 4001 MG|'73 4001 AZG (PW refin)|'75 4000 MG|'79 4001 JG FL|'81 4001S AZG|'86 4003 MID/BT|'86 4003 Shadow|'86 4003S JG|'88 4003s Blackstar|'89 4003 Grey/BT FL|'96 4003S/8 FG|'98 4003S/5 JG| 05 650D|06 4004 CII BBR||B-115|RB 30||?

gearHed289

Quote from: ilan on August 31, 2008, 03:39:29 AM
I never really understood this. That may be true for an open string, but once you fret a string all the harmonics move, don't they?

That's a good point. I never thought of that.  ???

bobyoung

Quote from: gearHed289 on September 01, 2008, 10:00:10 PM
That's a good point. I never thought of that.  ???

Yeah to me they sound better, more bottom. I had a mint 75 4001 with 1/2" spacing and it sounded great, one of the more stupid things I've done was selling it.

Chris P.