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westen44 · April 15, 2019, 04:24:00 PM

I had a boss who had a Jag He was always having to have something done to it. He was a jackass, BTW.

Dave W · April 15, 2019, 09:16:12 PM

I texted Keith tonight and asked him which model he had. His answer: "XJS Moneypit Edition."

I'll never forget the head case who bought it from him. He drove 500 miles (round trip) to see it at my house, decided he wanted it, and wired the money to Keith in Korea. The deal was done. Instead of coming back, he hired an auto transport company. The driver damaged the front end while loading it, and the crazy buyer wanted to undo the whole deal.

I had to stand firm. It was already his.

lowend1 · April 16, 2019, 06:57:48 AM

Quote from: Dave W on April 15, 2019, 09:16:12 PM
I texted Keith tonight and asked him which model he had. His answer: "XJS Moneypit Edition."

"XJS" and "money pit" are redundant terms.

uwe · April 16, 2019, 09:20:25 AM

Quote from: Rob on April 15, 2019, 04:12:05 PM
I remember those conversions.
They (1) started, (2) ran and (3) didn't leak stuff on the drive.

That's 3 to 0 compared to the originals.

westen44 · April 16, 2019, 02:46:49 PM

I have 100% of a Jag's problems without actually owning one.

uwe · April 17, 2019, 09:24:50 AM

I tried a new one recently for a few days, the XF Sportbrake, played with the idea of switching to something else than Volvo for once.

It's a well-made car, no issue. TATA know their business. But that aggressive rear-wheel drive ...

After 25 years of driving about 10 different 4-wheel-drive Volvos, I was startled to drive a car that burns rubber and becomes unruly if you speed it up in a curve and that needs to be steered to drive a straight line

on the Autobahn going a mild 170 km/h. With my Volvos, I can go 225 km/h or more on the Autobahn (when it's empty in the wee-wee hours of the morning, I'm a nocturnal worker) and there is no need to steer, they are "driving on rails". With the Jag, I constantly had the feeling that its butt wanted to be in front of its snout which seems to get lighter with every additional km/h. I'm too old for that.

Leave that to the BMW drivers half my age with ghetto flat black finish.

Don't get me wrong, I like a powerful car (my Volvo V 90 has more than 300 hp, the Jag I tested had less), but I want optimal traction at all times, not rubber being scraped over the asphalt. A car that is confident and strong, not vicious and hyper.

So that was my recent Jag experience which did not turn me into a convert, I guess I'm more lichen-munching stability ...

than tensed-up feline ...

TBird1958 · April 17, 2019, 10:32:07 AM

Quote from: uwe on April 17, 2019, 09:24:50 AM
I tried a new one recently for a few days, the XF Sportbrake, played with the idea of switching to something else than Volvo for once.

It's a well-made car, no issue. TATA know their business. But that aggressive rear-wheel drive ... After 25 years of driving about 10 different 4-wheel-drive Volvos, I was startled to drive a car that burns rubber and becomes unruly if you speed it up in a curve and that needs to be steered to drive a straight line on the Autobahn going a mild 170 km/h. With my Volvos, I can go 225 km/h or more on the Autobahn (when it's empty in the wee-wee hours of the morning, I'm a nocturnal worker) and there is no need to steer, they are "driving on rails". With the Jag, I constantly had the feeling that its butt wanted to be in front of its snout which seems to get lighter with every additional km/h. I'm too old for that. Leave that to the BMW drivers half my age with ghetto flat black finish. Don't get me wrong, I like a powerful car (my Volvo V 90 has more than 300 hp, the Jag I tested had less), but I want optimal traction at all times, not rubber being scraped over the asphalt. A car that is confident and strong, not vicious and hyper.

So that was my recent Jag experience which did not turn me into a convert, I guess I'm more lichen-munching stability ...

than tensed-up feline ...

Your Volvo was/is pretty plush as I recall, a bit more so than the BMW wagon we rented the next day and used for the remainder of our stay. I think its a much wiser choice than a Jaguar, which must somehow actually be an acronym for Fix Or Repair Daily.

Pilgrim · April 17, 2019, 11:37:41 AM

I like the Volvos a lot, but I'd probably have gone with the Jag. It would be more similar to my BMW 3-series wagon. I am quite comfy with a RWD bias. (And I like more than a little "Yee-Haw" when driving.)

westen44 · April 17, 2019, 01:50:00 PM

I don't know much about it really, but I've always looked at being interested in and collecting cars as being in a fairly close second place to being interested in and collecting musical instruments. I've got close friends, though, who would add motorcycles to that list.

lowend1 · April 18, 2019, 07:21:26 AM

Quote from: uwe on April 17, 2019, 09:24:50 AMBut that aggressive rear-wheel drive ... After 25 years of driving about 10 different 4-wheel-drive Volvos, I was startled to drive a car that burns rubber and becomes unruly if you speed it up in a curve and that needs to be steered to drive a straight line

You need a Hellcat. And some adult diapers, probably...