2x15 vs 1x15 + 4x10?

Stjofön Big · October 15, 2018, 12:21:15 PM

Found one Ampeg Classic 115 today, on the net. 1 000 kilometers from here, but the price was right. $ 200. Can't complain. Only transport left to get together. I'll report back later.

Dave W · October 15, 2018, 11:04:24 PM

That's a very good price if it's in good shape.

slinkp · October 16, 2018, 10:27:50 AM

Indeed, that negates my questioning the value of this model

Let us know how it works out!

Stjofön Big · October 31, 2018, 03:24:12 PM

Got my Ampeg Classic 115 today. Friend of mine brought it from the south of Sweden, and here to the north. About 1 000 kilometers!
I haven't tried it out yet, but there's one thing I wanna know before the Classic finds it's way to the rehearsal place: I discovered that the wheels for my Ampeg B don't fit my Classic. The leader for the wheel is too thin. Plus one holder for the leader is missing.
Anyone know where to buy a holder, and the right wheels?

Basvarken · November 01, 2018, 03:28:53 PM

try https://www.fliptops.net/

Dave W · November 01, 2018, 10:56:14 PM

I'm not sure what you mean. Is it a stem of a plug-in caster that's too small small in diameter? Is the cabinet missing one of the sleeves that the stem fits into? You may be able to get the parts from an industrial supplier.

Stjofön Big · November 02, 2018, 02:44:43 AM

Absolutely right, Dave! Your translation of Swenglish is right at the point!

I'm gonna check Rob's suggestion, and maybe it works.

Dave W · November 02, 2018, 09:51:19 PM

Quote from: Stjofön Big on November 02, 2018, 02:44:43 AM
Absolutely right, Dave! Your translation of Swenglish is right at the point! I'm gonna check Rob's suggestion, and maybe it works.

I see that they have these, but they don't give the stem diameter.
https://www.fliptops.net/catalog/p-100521/caster-stem-style-2-plug-in
https://www.fliptops.net/catalog/p-100522/caster-socket

You probably can find what you need in Sweden, from a general industrial supplier or one that specializes in carts, dollies, grocery carts and the like. Even home improvement centers and woodworking suppliers here carry a good selection.

Stjofön Big · November 03, 2018, 05:28:56 AM

That's what I just did! i decided to take the "leader", and the "holder" (Swenglish for sleeve, and plug-in caster) off from the cabinet, and exchange them for 50 mm diameter lockable rubber wheels. Don't understand why I didn't come to think of that solution right away, cause I had put rubber wheels on my old 2x15? Well, sometimes the memory bank is som full of sh-t that it takes some time for it to begin to work on all cylinders (that's gb for the modern man. I'm not).
So, gather round me people, and read my lips: Hope you all have a really nice weekend?

Stjofön Big · November 05, 2018, 04:43:12 AM

Checked my new speaker yesterday. Dual Showman on top, underneath it Ampeg B series 1x15, and in the bottom Ampeg Classic 1x15. I'm not impressed.
What I hade in my old cabinet, 1x15 JBL plus 1x15 Elektrovoice, has got much more deep power, shake and roll in this, my first opinion. Gotta spend some time fiddling about with the knobs to see if there's any way to get the sound I want.
Could it be that the Elektrovoice is hard to replace?

Dave W · November 05, 2018, 09:15:08 PM

My Mesa 1x15 Diesels both have the stock EV 15L. Aside from twice the power handling compared to the Ampeg, I don't know what the difference in tone might be.

Granny Gremlin · November 06, 2018, 04:11:36 PM

EVs are dirt easy to replace in North America; over there I have no idea - I suspect less so because they probably weren't as ubiquitous in PA cabs as they were here ( the PA units used the same frame/motor structure so when they blew, and they got blown a lot during their heyday in the Rave years, you could recone it for bass guitar kit vs a sub - I get em for CA$120-140 each for a local reconer - just not the blingy ones with fancy graphic sticker on the back of the magnet).

What might be easier, cheaper (over there), compatible in the same cabs, and actually superior sounding is an RCF L15-554 (Italian made). Should be plenty of those floating around the used market over there; pretty popular (even here, where they cost a lot more). Very EV-like but tighter manufacturing tolerances so a bit more hifi.

amptech · November 06, 2018, 11:43:11 PM

Quote from: Granny Gremlin on November 06, 2018, 04:11:36 PM
EVs are dirt easy to replace in North America; over there I have no idea - I suspect less so because they probably weren't as ubiquitous in PA cabs as they were here

Not too many of them here in scandinavia I'm afraid. But the last 15L i bought, was located in Stockholm - so there is hope

Long drive for a blown speaker, but recone worked and I'm happy.

Stjofön Big · November 08, 2018, 12:50:18 PM

So now I've hade time to fiddle with the Dual showman controls. Holy matrimony! What a sound! Earthshaking, and still a clearity that's totally impressing. Our drummer just smiled!
I'm so glad I got hold of the Ampeg Classic 1x15. Wow, 2x15, that's what I'm used to, and that's what I want!
Thanks everyone for all the input! You're great, all of you!

Dave W · November 08, 2018, 10:39:36 PM

I'm glad it's working out for you.