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Rob

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Re: 2x15 vs 1x15 + 4x10?
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2018, 07:31:58 PM »
+1

For bass it's just 12"s or 15"'s for me. My favourite stack has a 2x12" on top of a 1x15".

I think that stack is great too.

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Re: 2x15 vs 1x15 + 4x10?
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2018, 10:26:02 PM »
My favorite "non standard" bass cab setups: three 2x12 Bag End subwoofer cabinets off my now gone 400PS, my Aguilar db728 into Ernie Ball 2x12 bass cabs, and my old Marshall 4x15 paired with a custom 2x15 PA sub using JBL D130's

... or stacking multiple 8x10's: because sometimes you just LOVE showing off the aircraft carrier with the hangar deck empty!

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Re: 2x15 vs 1x15 + 4x10?
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2018, 11:30:25 PM »
This is the most unconventional stack I ever had.  Four vertical twelves... a pair of EA CXL112 on top of a Schroeder 1212.


The amps up top were a Thunderfunk and an AI Clarus.

I did have all that stuff going at once in my bedroom for about five minutes. It was a pretty big sound :)

Most of it long since sold as it didn't really suit me. Those amps were both much too clean for me, and that Schroeder was all woof and no bite.
It combined well with the EAs but was useless on its own, and I really didn't need that.

The only thing I kept from that rig was one of the EAs, which I still love.
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Re: 2x15 vs 1x15 + 4x10?
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2018, 09:57:03 AM »
No, full range. I've never bi-amped a rig before, though I have used 2 amps at the same time (again, full range).

It's a very reasonably-sized cabinet. Pretty close to a Marshall 4x12. I recently swapped out my old EVM-15L (went to my combo amp) for a Eminence neo 15. It went from 110 lbs. to 96.

Oy - EVs are brutal, weight-wise. I had a Fender Studio Bass combo that had the Fender-branded EVM15B. Add to that a 6x6L6 200-watt tube amp in the enclosure, and you have the makings of a hernia.
I also have a Hiwatt 50 1x12 combo that got its Fane replaced with an EVM12L. Sounds great, but barely portable now.
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Re: 2x15 vs 1x15 + 4x10?
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2018, 01:39:37 PM »
 
My favorite "non standard" bass cab setups: three 2x12 Bag End subwoofer cabinets off my now gone 400PS, my Aguilar db728 into Ernie Ball 2x12 bass cabs, and my old Marshall 4x15 paired with a custom 2x15 PA sub using JBL D130's

... or stacking multiple 8x10's: because sometimes you just LOVE showing off the aircraft carrier with the hangar deck empty!
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Re: 2x15 vs 1x15 + 4x10?
« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2018, 03:42:36 PM »
Oy - EVs are brutal, weight-wise. I had a Fender Studio Bass combo that had the Fender-branded EVM15B. Add to that a 6x6L6 200-watt tube amp in the enclosure, and you have the makings of a hernia.
I also have a Hiwatt 50 1x12 combo that got its Fane replaced with an EVM12L. Sounds great, but barely portable now.

I'll take an EV over a JBL any day of the week  ;P
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Re: 2x15 vs 1x15 + 4x10?
« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2018, 10:01:36 PM »
I'll take an EV over a JBL any day of the week  ;P

+1 My EVM15L are killers, great speakers. Weight don't bother me that much.

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Re: 2x15 vs 1x15 + 4x10?
« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2018, 07:26:58 AM »
But EVs are also lighter than JBLs
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Re: 2x15 vs 1x15 + 4x10?
« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2018, 08:12:36 AM »
The guitarist in my original band had EVM 12Ls put in his JC 120. It's heavy! The top handle just broke recently. ;D

I like JBL but prefer EV and have found them to take much more abuse. Gotta be honest though, I'm very impressed with the Eminence neo 15 I bought. Deltalite II 2515.

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Re: 2x15 vs 1x15 + 4x10?
« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2018, 09:08:06 AM »
The guitarist in my original band had EVM 12Ls put in his JC 120. It's heavy! The top handle just broke recently. ;D


Not to pick, but any amp weighing 60 pounds could benefit from locking chest handles on both sides.  Carrying an amp like that with a top handle is punishing to the hands and awkward!  I did that for my old Fender Bassman 120 and it made it much easier to move.



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Re: 2x15 vs 1x15 + 4x10?
« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2018, 09:19:34 AM »
JCM 120 are heavy with the stock speakers!

I had an EVM 15L in a (terrible) homemade cabinet as my rig for about 7 years (from high school through college and after). It was a really great speaker and took a lot of abuse, running a mid-eighties ~ 80W solid state Randall head pushed to its limit all the time, before the speaker finally developed a horrible rattle.

A lot of people borrowed that rig from me too, because even undersized as it was, it sounded quite a bit better than most of the other terrible low-budget bass amps that people I knew had at the time :-D  So it really got abused.

I possibly could've got it reconed, but the cabinet was completely falling apart too, and I didn't have another 115 cab to put it in, so that was when I finally just got a new rig.
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Re: 2x15 vs 1x15 + 4x10?
« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2018, 08:06:45 AM »
Not to pick, but any amp weighing 60 pounds could benefit from locking chest handles on both sides.  Carrying an amp like that with a top handle is punishing to the hands and awkward!  I did that for my old Fender Bassman 120 and it made it much easier to move.

Yeah, I've been in the flight case biz for 22 years. I have to think about handle placement often. He was surprised we don't stock those amp-style strap handles. HA!

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Re: 2x15 vs 1x15 + 4x10?
« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2018, 12:02:39 PM »
Big mistake, everyone of us! What I thought was an Ampeg Classic, showed up to be a B series HE. Realised my mistake when I went to the rehearsal place tonight. So forget everything I  wrote about the Classic 4x10. One of the guitar players, who's also a sound technics, thought I should get rid of both the 410, and the 115...
Tried out my Dual Showman with only the 115. Nope. Now I think that the only solution is 2 115's, as long as I want the sound I've gotten used to. So... as Del Shannon once put it so cleverly: Keep Searching!

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Re: 2x15 vs 1x15 + 4x10?
« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2018, 01:47:50 PM »
Good idea!

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Re: 2x15 vs 1x15 + 4x10?
« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2018, 02:16:28 PM »
Keep us posted! Would love to hear what you end up with.

I'm curious, is there anything unusual or special about the Ampeg Classic 115?  $500+ strikes me as a bit high for a single fifteen in a pretty standard box.
Plenty of others have 115 cabs in the $300 - $400 range.  I wonder what bang you get for the buck.
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