Godin Shifter bass?

Started by Alanko, November 03, 2016, 06:36:23 AM

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Dave W

That unbuffed ares is really odd. Never seen that before. Odd about the string ground too.

I don't understand the logic behind separate neck plates. AFAIK ski jump necks are a "feature" of traditional style truss rods, not how the neck is secured.

Alanko

I don't think Godin really understood the reasons behind ski-jumping in necks, and figured that an extra pair of screws would get the job done! this neck could still potentially ski-jump.  :mrgreen:

slinkp

Quote from: Alanko on November 13, 2016, 12:47:43 PM
I'm tempted to run a second ground wire to the bridge itself.

If I did that, I would be inclined to clip the original wire too, to reduce the chance of creating a ground loop.
I have heard conflicting things about whether ground loops in guitar wiring cause any actual problems -
but as long as you're in there, it couldn't hurt to be prudent.
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Granny Gremlin

Quote from: Dave W on November 13, 2016, 05:18:07 PM
That unbuffed ares is really odd. Never seen that before. Odd about the string ground too.

I don't understand the logic behind separate neck plates. AFAIK ski jump necks are a "feature" of traditional style truss rods, not how the neck is secured.

From what I understand ski jump is not relief (excessive or othwerwise) which is the slight bow in the neck you want for optimal playability, but rather an upward rise in the last few frets upon which the truss rod has no effect.

As such I suppose it is possible that 2 plates and 2 extra screws could have some effect on it; dunno.

Quote from: uwe on April 17, 2014, 03:19:20 PM
Robert Plant and Jimmy Page (drummer and bassist of Deep Purple, Jake!)

Alanko

Presumably ski-jump necks tend to have headstock-end trussrod adjusters?

Dave W

Quote from: Granny Gremlin on November 14, 2016, 11:30:36 AM
From what I understand ski jump is not relief (excessive or othwerwise) which is the slight bow in the neck you want for optimal playability, but rather an upward rise in the last few frets upon which the truss rod has no effect.

As such I suppose it is possible that 2 plates and 2 extra screws could have some effect on it; dunno.

An explanation: http://hazeguitars.com/blog/s-shaped-guitar-neck

Granny Gremlin

Yeah, that doesn't disagree with what I said.
Quote from: uwe on April 17, 2014, 03:19:20 PM
Robert Plant and Jimmy Page (drummer and bassist of Deep Purple, Jake!)

Dave W

Quote from: Granny Gremlin on November 15, 2016, 03:53:16 PM
Yeah, that doesn't disagree with what I said.

What he's saying -- and other repair people say -- is that it has to do with the way the traditional truss rod works. Extra screws are fine for more contact but I've never read of any repairmen saying it will prevent neck humps. The double-type rod supposedly prevents this since it works a different way.

Alanko

So... I've drilled a bridge ground wire channel. I drilled down into the area under the bridge, then drilled in the direction of the generously proportioned control cavity. No dice! I had to drill a second hole in the direction of the bridge pickup route. I thought my drill bits were long enough, but apparently they aren't. I will fill the first hole...

Granny Gremlin

Quote from: Dave W on November 16, 2016, 09:58:37 AM
What he's saying -- and other repair people say -- is that it has to do with the way the traditional truss rod works. Extra screws are fine for more contact but I've never read of any repairmen saying it will prevent neck humps. The double-type rod supposedly prevents this since it works a different way.

OK, but neither did I say it would help (I gave a distinct "dunno") and you said ski jumps were a "feature" of truss rods, which implies desirability vs a problem or side effect.  Sorry, not trying to be snippy, but clarifying.
Quote from: uwe on April 17, 2014, 03:19:20 PM
Robert Plant and Jimmy Page (drummer and bassist of Deep Purple, Jake!)