I never realized that the SB 300/400 pups and control section ...

Started by uwe, March 18, 2016, 10:29:36 AM

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Dave W

Quote from: Granny Gremlin on March 20, 2016, 05:37:37 PM
You did actually say they sound bad tho.

There's like 5 of them (various fins) between Reverb and Ebay right now  all listed at 2K or more.  Yeah, that's not conclusive.  There's no completed listings on ebay (a cherry one failed to sell at 1.7K last week) and Reverb's price guide (usually not bad) says 1.3-7k for blondes or bursts (so walnuts and cherries should be a tad less than that).  But if all the currently available ones remain listed at 2+k then that could change.

I probably said they sound like poop in an SB-300. I didn't say they sound bad in an ES-320. But the EB-320 isn't as well respected among Gibson players as the more expensive ES models. You can beg to differ, of course.

15 years ago the 320s were selling for about 600-800. It seems like a couple of years ago I saw a couple in the 1200 range. Maybe it was longer ago than that.

uwe

Quote from: Dave W on March 19, 2016, 12:39:03 PM
The burst that Grog posted does look garish to me. Last one I saw locally (some years back) was a blond finish, it looked better. Remember, though, these were Gibson's economy models. Gibson didn't put as many hours into the finish.

These pickups in an ES-320 didn't sound like the P-90s in an ES-330. They were much brighter, almost chimey.

Here's a Kraut with a 320.



Lol, that Kraut is Ali Neander who went to my school (one or two classes my senior) and is a renowned session guitarist in my neck of the woods - the bass player of his then jazz rock outfit Hem was my bass teacher. Back in school, Ali adored Billy Gibbons (besides Jeff Beck, hence the jazz rock thing) and despised Blackmore (he's reversed his judgement on him over the decades). He's mostly known for his work with the Rodgau Monotones, local heroes in South Hesse who started as a - very good - cover band in the later 70ies and even had a nationwide rappish freak novelty hit in the 80ies, 'tis a small world:



They're still at it too:






We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

Alanko

Quote from: Granny Gremlin on March 18, 2016, 11:36:36 AM
The brown one you posted looks so much nicer than the burst I am seeing on Reverb.com.

A nice, evenly applied Clownburst!  :rolleyes:


Granny Gremlin

Quote from: uwe on March 21, 2016, 08:36:50 AM
Lol, that Kraut is Ali Neander who went to my school (one or two classes my senior) and is a renowned session guitarist in my neck of the woods - the bass player of his then jazz rock outfit Hem was my bass teacher. Back in school, Ali adored Billy Gibbons (besides Jeff Beck, hence the jazz rock thing) and despised Blackmore (he's reversed his judgement on him over the decades). He's mostly known for his work with the Rodgau Monotones, local heroes in South Hesse who started as a - very good - cover band in the later 70ies and even had a nation wide rappish freak novelty hit in the 80ies, 'tis a small world:



They're still at it too:




LOL; they really picked the best frame to capture for the vid thumbnail on that first one - her face is priceless there.

Listenning to the second one I was like 'hey good job being, like,  the millionth person to rip off that riff from The Ocean" and then one of the first lines is something about Led  Zepplin and then  David Lee Roth is mentioned in the next one so I LOLed again, but then stopped and wondered how Uwe could possibly lay this before us, knowing the ribbing he's going to get.

Quote from: Alanko on March 21, 2016, 10:33:25 AM
A nice, evenly applied Clownburst!  :rolleyes:

Not a burst so much as a 2 tone.... or perhaps extra-wide faux binding. 

Quote from: uwe on April 17, 2014, 03:19:20 PM
Robert Plant and Jimmy Page (drummer and bassist of Deep Purple, Jake!)

Alanko


uwe

Jake, be gentle, it's a spoof song, sung in local South Hesse dialect and good-naturedly praising the alleged virtues of our region in an OTT way, comparing local minor celebrities to people like David Bowie.

Led Zeppelin? Never thought of it that way, but Ali was also a great Jimmy Page fan, so there might be a connection. The other guitarist in the band was/is a Duane Allman diehard and wrote in that vein too.
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

Granny Gremlin

Quote from: uwe on March 22, 2016, 05:17:26 AM
Jake, be gentle, it's a spoof song, sung in local South Hesse dialect and good-naturedly praising the alleged virtues of our region in an OTT way, comparing local minor celebrities to people like David Bowie.

Led Zeppelin? Never thought of it that way, but Ali was also a great Jimmy Page fan, so there might be a connection. The other guitarist in the band was/is a Duane Allman diehard and wrote in that vein too.

Yeah I got that it was a bit of a spoof once they mentioned Roth.  Just really tired of hearing people riff on that riff, ya know.
Quote from: uwe on April 17, 2014, 03:19:20 PM
Robert Plant and Jimmy Page (drummer and bassist of Deep Purple, Jake!)

shadowcastaz

Update . Im redoing this for my cousin who is a dead ringer  for Breaking Bads Walter White.


It takes a very deep-rooted opinion to survive unexpressed

Alanko


shadowcastaz

 :mrgreen:

It takes a very deep-rooted opinion to survive unexpressed

uwe

We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

Dave W

Quote from: uwe on April 12, 2016, 10:28:43 AM
It needs some orange burst!!!



What happened to the two-point bridge that bass had when I shipped it to you?

Wait, don't tell me, it took one look at the PumpkinGlo finish and refused to cooperate.  :P

Granny Gremlin

Quote from: uwe on April 17, 2014, 03:19:20 PM
Robert Plant and Jimmy Page (drummer and bassist of Deep Purple, Jake!)

uwe

Jake, danke! Victory bassists have to stick together.

When the old man rants like this, it always hurts me deeply.

"PumpkinGlo"  :mrgreen: :) ;D 8)


Seriously, on a long scale bass with respective long scale string pull, the hallowed (in some heathen quarters) two-point bridge is an even more cursed device than usual. You might just as well glue the ends of the strings there.
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

Granny Gremlin

Happy to oblige in the face of such obvious persecution and dissenfranchisement.... though I have to say the 2 point is a fine bridge saddle; Gibson just should have sprung for the slightly extra cost of a separate stop bar or tailpeice like on old TBirds or even  a trapeze (which is an easy  reversable mod I recommend to everyone on the regular; though in the case of  a long scale there may not be enough room, so it'd have to the TBird style stop bar, which is unfortnate).

Quote from: uwe on April 17, 2014, 03:19:20 PM
Robert Plant and Jimmy Page (drummer and bassist of Deep Purple, Jake!)