The Bird Is The Word

Started by ajkula66, March 22, 2021, 05:08:38 PM

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ajkula66

Have you heard about the bird...the most unusual one on Reverb

https://reverb.com/item/33053083-1976-gibson-thunderbird-bass-natural-flametop-5-string-custom-bass-what

The entire storyline behind it seems questionable to me, but I wouldn't mind owning it...for far less money.
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OldManC

I remember seeing that on eBay years ago. Maybe as much as 20? That's not a bass you forget.

Dave W

No provenance, no s/n. Does look like it started out as a genuine TBird, but all that's left of the original is the husk. Pretty bass but overpriced under the circumstances.

ajkula66

Quote from: Dave W on March 22, 2021, 08:34:23 PM
No provenance, no s/n. Does look like it started out as a genuine TBird, but all that's left of the original is the husk. Pretty bass but overpriced under the circumstances.

The lack of serial - which I noticed but with my bad eyesight wasn't quite certain whether it was just a muddy picture - would prevent me from buying it at any cost. With that being said, it's a pretty unique instrument, and an interesting one at that IMO.
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ilan

#4
"It may be the only Gibson Thunderbird "high C" 5-string on the planet"

Yeah, for sure. No one has ever thought of stringing their fiver EADGC. Definitely justifies doubling the asking price.

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Dave W

Quote from: ilan on March 23, 2021, 02:29:56 AM
"It may be the only Gibson Thunderbird "high C" 5-string on the planet"

Yeah, for sure. No one has ever thought of stringing their fiver EADGC. Definitely justifies doubling the asking price.

Maybe he'll string it piccolo and double the asking price.

He doesn't know if it started out as a 76 TBird, that's just how it was represented when he bought it.

Alanko

The string spacing around the low frets looks unusable.

ilan

Quote from: Dave W on March 23, 2021, 02:23:28 PM
He doesn't know if it started out as a 76 TBird, that's just how it was represented when he bought it.

I find it hard to believe that someone would use a good vintage bass as a platform for a project like this, when they can just get a 5-string Epi 'bird and have it pimped, re-topped or whatever. It's not like this was the smashed Bass of Doom.

Alanko

Quote from: ilan on March 23, 2021, 03:07:15 PM
I find it hard to believe that someone would use a good vintage bass as a platform for a project like this, when they can just get a 5-string Epi 'bird and have it pimped, re-topped or whatever. It's not like this was the smashed Bass of Doom.

Same reason instruments got Alembic-ised in the '70s I guess. Take an off-the-peg instrument and make it an artisan masterpiece by adding a gaudy maple top, brass hardware, military-spec electronic components, lurid inlays. No accounting for taste! Just make it look flashy and obviously upgraded.

Or just 'cocaine decisions' as Zappa put it!

With re-topped instruments you wonder what horror of Bondo and crumpled up newspaper might lurk underneath. Passive Gotoh pickups seem a slightly poverty-spec move after shelling out for fancy wood as well.

uwe

#10
The headstock speaks for its origins indeed going back to a Bicentennial. Too large for a post-1987 model, you couldn't squeeze five tuners on that. Also the back of the headstock evidences that four large tuners were mounted once, Bicentennial style.

I can't make up my mind from the pics whether the back shows a belly bevelling on the upper wing or not - if not then ----> Bicentennial, only those lacked these.

But it really doesn't matter. You have to buy this bass for what it is now, not for what it was once.

Personally, I think it looks horrible the way they have now obscured the trademark TBird center block with that godawful flamed maple, brrrrrr ...  :puke:

Ironically, I have a 5-string LPB-2 with the same flamed maple look strung to a high C too. It sounds better in theory than in practice, the C string already sounds very geetardish, so it's more of a 4+1 solution.
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Quote from: uwe on March 23, 2021, 10:22:28 PM
Ironically, I have a 5-string LPB-2 with the same flamed maple look strung to a high C too. It sounds better in theory than in practice, the C string already sounds very geetardish, so it's more of a 4+1 solution.

Hardly surprising. For EADGC tuning I'd opt for a short scale, they have more meat in the higher notes.


Quote from: Alanko on March 23, 2021, 05:11:03 PM
Same reason instruments got Alembic-ised in the '70s I guess

This doesn't look like a 70s mod, more like something that was done in a period when the value of old Gibsons was widely known. That's why I suspect the carcass used here was from a damaged, routed, or otherwise butchered bass. 

Granny Gremlin

Quote from: ilan on March 23, 2021, 03:07:15 PM
I find it hard to believe that someone would use a good vintage bass as a platform for a project like this, when they can just get a 5-string Epi 'bird and have it pimped, re-topped or whatever. It's not like this was the smashed Bass of Doom.

20-30 years ago TBirds were cheap and not so in demand; assuming the story is true.

Peronally, I think he may have given up the ghost with the bit about the pups being drop in - seems likely a 90s or such reg humbucker sized pup jobby (maybe even an Epi) may have been the original animal if that is true (again he could be wrong).

Quote from: uwe on April 17, 2014, 03:19:20 PM
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Ken

I'm mostly curious if that thing will sell, and at what price.