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Unlike the 'mahogany' BaCH uses, 60's Gibsons didn't NEED grain filler.

I had to grain fill the entire bass; the body, neck and the front and back of the headstock. Yeah, skipping grain filling on this would have been great. I did 3 coats because I kept finding little pinholes where the grain filler didn't catch. It was a lot of grain filling but I knew it would pay off.

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Here's a picture of the body after the grain filler and sand and sealer were applied. From what I understand, 60's Gibsons, unlike Fenders, didn't have a white primer coat so I skipped that part. I used this stuff called Timbermate for the grain filler and Reranch sand and sealer. Obviously the control cavity has been rerouted too.


Here's a picture of the neck too

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You didn't sand through to the truss rod, so if it isn't that much thinner than John's, probably no need to worry about anything happening later on.
Yeah, I didn't come anywhere near the truss rod. Once I compared it to the other Bachbird I knew it was going to to be fine. I'm glad I found another Bachbird owner locally for me to compare it to and put my mind at ease about it.

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I did the exact same thing on one of the first basses I stripped.  I used a similar fix and it worked out fine.  Good recovery.

Yeah, I'm definitely happy with the save. It may have been a bit unnecessary but I'm still glad I did it because I know it would drive my nuts every time I played it and I felt that little ripple. It's funny because if it came from the factory like that it probably wouldn't have bothered me that much but the fact that I screwed it up bothered me more for some reason.

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Ok, so this is when things started to get a little squirrelly for me. I sanded the poly off of the neck and I got a little carried away. I ran into two problems. The first problem: I kind of sanded a little ripple in the back of the neck around the 10th-11th fret. It wasn't too bad but I felt that every time I tried to sand it to even it out I was taking a little bit more off the neck and that started to worry me. I figured I had 2 options, one, just leave it since it wasn't that bad and maybe not noticeable (unless I pointed it out) but at the end of the day I would notice it and I knew it would bother me forever so I decided to go with option 2. Option 2: I decided to rub a really thin coat of quickwood over the area and to sand it flat. After going to about 3 stores I still couldn't find the correct color but I knew I was painting it black anyway so I just used whatever color they had. I applied it and sanded it. I'm very happy with the results. It might not look pretty when looking at the unfinished neck but once I painted it you would never know. It looks and feels perfect so I'm glad I didn't just leave it. Here's a picture of it. Again, I know the off color makes it an eyesore but you can't see it now so I'm fine with it.


The second problem: In general I took a little more off of the neck than I would have liked. I didn't think that was the case until my bandmate got a new Gibson Custom Shop NR Firebird. The neck on his was a huge baseball bat compared to my bass. I didn't remember if mine was like that when I got it because it had been so long and I barely played it before I started stripping it. At this point I was totally convinced that I took way too much off of the neck and that I had ruined it which lead to me putting it aside for months. I was pretty bummed. Especially since the necks on those basses are already so thin. I kind of figured it was f***ed. I painted it and stuff but it sat around unassembled for a long time before I revisited it. I eventually took it to John Karras, known on this board as John_K and I compared it to his original Bachbird. I came to find out that, although mine was a little thiner than his it was much closer than I thought. Thank God. His neck was also very thin and he convinced me that mine was totally fine. He also reminded me that the Bachbird's were finished in a thick poly and mine was a thin nitro which was also something to consider. I really thought mine was a goner before I compared the two basses. Anyway, as I stated earlier, he helped a great deal with mine but again, I'll get more into that later.

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Nice work. From the results, hard to believe you're a rookie at this.
Thanks but my next update will show some evidence of me being a rookie for sure. Ha ha. I screwed the neck up a bit when I was sanding it. It's not too bad though.

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A few pics of the belly contour all carved out and sanded smooth. I must say I was a little scared to do the contour but I am very happy with the way it came out. Also note how nice the body cleaned up after some light sanding.


I rounded the edges of the contour too so the routing matched the rest of the body.

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Here's that old thread;
http://bassoutpost.com/index.php?topic=2556.msg56972#msg56972
Yeah, that's where I got the idea.

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Other Bass Brands / Re: Jerry Dixon's T-bird (non Gibson)
« on: July 26, 2011, 01:01:38 AM »
Don't forget the horrible songs that might have been written on it. Ha.

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Other Bass Brands / Re: Bachbird fit in this case?
« on: July 25, 2011, 05:04:30 PM »
There are 2 different ones by Epiphone (that I know of). One's interior length is 48 inches long and the other is 51 inches long. I guess mine is referred to case #39. I'm assuming that is some sort of model number because every time I see one that is 51 inches the product details for it will say Epiphone Thunderbird case 39. But mine barely fits. I had to make it fit, not just shape wise but length wise. But obviously the 48 inch case won't fit no matter what you do to it.

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Other Bass Brands / Re: Jerry Dixon's T-bird (non Gibson)
« on: July 25, 2011, 02:46:01 PM »
I don't think the whole band is worth $4000 at this point. Ha ha. But seriously, I don't. 

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Other Bass Brands / Re: Bachbird fit in this case?
« on: July 25, 2011, 02:44:30 PM »
Yes, it fits!!! At first it looked like it wasn't going to but then I realized that once I pulled the styrofoam out I would be able to push the styrofoam closer to the edge a bit. If that makes sense? I ripped it all out, flipped it over and reshaped it a bit so it would now fit an NR bird. Basically, I did the same thing as you Rob. Now it fits perfectly. I've been looking for a case for over a year and every time I would find one it would happen to be when I had no money and they were always kind of expensive. The lowest I was finding was $89.99 but the shipping was always around $29.99. I got the deal of century on this one, it was $39.99 and the shipping was only $9.99. It said it was an open box item so I assumed it would be scuffed up a bit but it was brand new and still in the original shipping box. I'm so stoked I got such a great deal.

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Cool, thanks for tip. That looks like a great option and they are nice and cheap too. I was just going to use white acrylic paint. That's if I end up adding the bird.

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Cool, I got excited when Reranch added Pelham blue and I have been waiting to see a project using it. I remember seeing that picture of your half missing NR body but I couldn't find the thread where you rebuilt it. Can you post a link here?

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Here's a picture of the belly contour all mapped and ready to be carved out.


Had to route the body for the bridge pickup since I bought the one pickup model. My friend helped me with all the routing. Also had to drill another hole for the second volume knob. Some of the holes on the face of the bass are from the pickguard and bridge/tail piece but all the extra ones are from when I screwed the 1/4 boards on it to make it level in order to run it through the drum sander.


And the actual carving begins. I carved it out by hand using a rasp for most of it and eventually sanded it to get it nice and smooth.

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that bach looks familiar.
Haha,yes, this bass should look very familiar.
JohnK played a huge part in getting this bass to where it is today. Amazing work. More on his involvement later. But he definitely helped take it to another level. Thanks again John.

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