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Fender Basses / Re: Should I trade My '65 T Bird II for a refin 1961 Jazz Bass?????
« on: August 07, 2015, 02:41:16 AM »
Quote from: patman on August 02, 2015, 05:44:56 PM
sorry to be a heathen, but there are a bunch of Jazz bass clones that would probably sound as good...am I missing something?

I tend to agree. I would save up and get a builder to make me a tasty Jazz with all the good aspects of the refin. I would keep the TBII.

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Gibson Basses / Re: Thunderbird shootout.
« on: August 07, 2015, 02:38:44 AM »
Its a De Havilland Mosquito, a Merlin-powered plywood wonder.  :mrgreen:

It seems like De Havilland really liked wood, as they build the cockpit pods of the Vampire jets out of wood as well. Poorly maintained examples tend to delaminate over time.  :rolleyes: This seems very much like classic British engineering, a good mix of stylish design and 'what the **** were they thinking'?

De Havilland also made the Sea Vixen, which has to be their most brutalist design as it looks, to me, like part flatfish and part spacecraft.



Back to T-birds, I saw a link to a 7-string Chinese monstrosity today;

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=171881266163&globalID=EBAY-US


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Gibson Basses / Re: Thunderbird shootout.
« on: August 06, 2015, 02:57:28 PM »
How about...



...as a great British aircraft design? That must take some beating?

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: Bass on Argus.
« on: August 06, 2015, 01:59:37 PM »
Thanks for that great post. My copy is from MCA, copyrighted 2002 and has those three ill-fitting boogie rock live cuts tacked on as a half-arsed bonus. I'm probably a philistine, but the track Jail Bait bores me to tears.

The Culture Factory release sounds interesting, not as an absolute replacement to other reissue but as a companion I guess. I figured my version had been Turner'd as there is a subtle chorus effect on the clean guitar passages  in tracks like The King Will Come. I guess that is on the originals as well?

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The Outpost Cafe / Bass on Argus.
« on: August 06, 2015, 09:29:31 AM »
I purchased a CD copy of Argus a few months back, before I realised there was various versions with different remixes etc. One thing I've noticed though is the lack of low end on the album. Is it just me, my headphones, my speakers etc? For example, on Throw Down the Sword there is this long pedal note on the intro that sounds pretty bassy, then it all evaporates away once the drums come in. Martin Turner plays some interesting counterpoint lines, though not quite up to Chris Squire's level of harmonic composition, but in doing so his tone seems to be all about this chewy high-mids sound that just becomes one of the guitars, to my ears. Where are the lows?

In short, I find Wishbone Ash to straddle hard rock and prog, but just sitting a wee bit out of each genre. They aren't UFO and they aren't Yes. I figured that I still have a fair chunk to learn about this band. I still like the tunes on Argus though.

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Gibson Basses / Re: Thunderbird shootout.
« on: August 06, 2015, 09:00:47 AM »
The styling of the rear of the E-type Coupe is a disgrace. It seems like the whole thing should have been lowered at the rear, and the roofline is too tall as well.

[img][/http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/photos-smallwood/79.jpgimg]

I also don't consider the Lockheed Constellation to be the design marvel that many do, so perhaps I'm just a bit odd.

Had Jethro Tull Live at the Isle of Wight 1970 on today. That hearty T-bird tone is pretty amazing.  :mrgreen: The only real problem is that the bass solo in Bouree is so undefined that it sounds like fog pouring out the amps.

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Gibson Basses / Re: Thunderbird shootout.
« on: August 06, 2015, 03:56:34 AM »
Its unfair to drag up any car made in the UK in the '70s. Cars left the factory with trim missing and wiring rat's nests behind the dash. Some were rusty before they left the showroom. Not good!

Having said all that, the E-type Jag leaves me cold.  :rolleyes:

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Other Bass Brands / Re: New two-pickup Starfire by Guild
« on: August 06, 2015, 02:08:26 AM »
Quote from: Dave W on August 05, 2015, 08:37:21 PM
This settles it, and IMHO it's unfortunate. Not just because I don't care for the Darkstar, but because it's not going to sound like the original. What I really find odd is the cult following based on what Jack Casady and Phil Lesh stopped using decades ago.

Of course neither Phil or Jack used stock Starfires either. Guild should do a 'San Fran' special issue with brass hardware and most of the treble side of the body filled with hardcore filter-based preamps built up from military NOS components, topped off with chunky Raytheon knobs. :o

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Gibson Basses / Re: Thunderbird shootout.
« on: August 06, 2015, 02:00:45 AM »
Quote from: planetgaffnet on August 05, 2015, 02:25:45 PM
I've got a JAX T4...for comparison purposes here's a shot of one of my Thunderbirds riding the Lull (the basses were lined up at the nut):

What did the babies look like?

Speaking of babies (uh oh), I've seen a picture of John Entwistle and his son (Christopher?), both playing T-birds, though the kids is way smaller. Was that a Gibson one off, a Peter Cook creation, and was it even playable? Did John get it as a piccolo bass, or was it a gift for his son?

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Gibson Basses / Re: Thunderbird shootout.
« on: August 05, 2015, 01:53:56 PM »
Cool to see the Bell Aircobra up there. I read recently about a restoration team that had gathered up Kingcobra wrecks from across Russia;

http://p63kingcobra.com/63_kingcobra_restoration.html

Back to T-birds... why did Jeff Ament specify the 20% increase in body and headstock size on his Mike Lull sig? He doesn't seem like the biggest of dudes, and a T-bird is pretty big to start with!

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Gibson Basses / Re: Thunderbird shootout.
« on: August 05, 2015, 08:15:03 AM »
Quote from: uwe on August 05, 2015, 08:09:22 AM
No, blindingly ugly!!!  :mrgreen: (Uwe)

Get out!  :o  :mrgreen:

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Gibson Basses / Re: Thunderbird shootout.
« on: August 05, 2015, 03:14:09 AM »
Alanko, forgive me, I accidentally modified and overwrote your post when I only wanted to extract quotes from it. I'll go shoot myself now ... Uwe

"For Brits I would have to go for the Westland Whirlwind;



Much overlooked ..."

No, blindingly ugly!!!  :mrgreen: (Uwe)


"For American WW2-era designs, I really like the Catalina flying boats. Don't ask why!"


The PBYs had something Art Deco-ish to them, I like them a lot too. It's difficult to give a flight boat elegance, they succeeded in this case.



But even unelegant amphibious aircraft warm my heart. I love the Short Sunderland. (Uwe)

 

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Gibson Basses / Re: Thunderbird shootout.
« on: August 04, 2015, 10:53:28 AM »
WW2 aircraft I can do!

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Gibson Basses / Re: Thunderbird shootout.
« on: August 04, 2015, 02:13:14 AM »
Speaking of Ritchie Blackmore, I have to vent a little. Great player who definitely brought a lot of speed into the hard rock world, paving the way for shredders, but he smashed guitars in the weakest most pathetic manner. Most smasher guitarists used the thing like a pickaxe, but Blackers always limply threw the thing around by the neck then bounced the headstock off the stage until it broke. Pretty boring. I watched that Rainbow live video once, where he has Taurus bass pedals onstage and slowly, and tediously, smashes a black Strat.

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Gibson Basses / Re: Music videos that feature Thunderbirds
« on: August 03, 2015, 02:15:31 PM »
Pond - Rock Collection (live)



Quite a mundane punk ballad, but with a really filthy bass tone.

I know nothing about Pond other than that they spanned a weird musical chasm between US hardcore, post-punk and (proto) emo music. So niche that my buddy who is into hardcore (American Football et al) hadn't even heard of them. Their album "The Practice of Joy Before Death' has some suitably chunky bass tones.

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