Lemmy has switched from whiskey to vodka for health reasons (http://consequenceofsound.net/2015/08/lemmy-whiskey-vodka/)
Vodka and OJ instead of Jack and Coke. I'm sure that will be more healthful. ;D
I had no idea Lemmy was turning into a health nut.
Less sugar in the OJ so will be helpful for his diabetes... ;)
The sugar in OJ beats a regular Coke anytime. It's an urban myth that OJ is somehow healthy for you unless you are suffering from scurvy - most of us don't. The amount of sugar in a large glass of OJ is initially indigestible for you and immediately has your liver doing overtime to produce fat.
I still like it ;D - especially in the morning, kickstarts for the day!
Choosy livers (i.e mine) choose a good Single Malt Scotch......... Like Bowmore 12 year :)
Vodka.....pfffft. :-*
All alcohol contains (complex) sugars...
The coke (all of it; any brand, afaik) contains phosphoric acid, which is commercially used as a descaling material...
Uwe, I might have to beg to differ here re sugar (http://www.sugarstacks.com/beverages.htm) but only marginally, and with known USofA products... I work out by percentiles, 36g OJ to 39g cola, by volumes, but there will always be variants...
True, it is a common misconception that fresh juices are "better for you", to which I concur, but these sugars are raw and not refined products, which are almost certainly better for you... that and the fact that I've used gallons (thousands over a 21 year period) of phosphoric acid to descale commercial catering equipment, and I'd prefer not to drink the stuff thanks... a great descaling product (not the best) and I strongly recommend not letting it near bleaching agents...! :o :o :o
We'll all die. You might as well do it while eating and drinking things you enjoy.
Lemmy's body is beyond the point where "harmful" is a meaningful concept. Die with your boots on Rickenbacker strapped on.
I presume he'd probably prefer to croak somewhat like Tommy Cooper, during a live UK TV broadcast; not a lingering death, which is something I would think no one here would wish for...
There are some who are here to show us the exception to the rules... Lemmy and Keef are but to that leap to mind...
Quote from: Highlander on August 17, 2015, 11:30:04 AM
The coke (all of it; any brand, afaik) contains phosphoric acid, which is commercially used as a descaling material...
... that and the fact that I've used gallons (thousands over a 21 year period) of phosphoric acid to descale commercial catering equipment, and I'd prefer not to drink the stuff thanks... a great descaling product (not the best) and I strongly recommend not letting it near bleaching agents...! :o :o :o
Considering the concern that some people have about keeping their colons clean, I'd think a little descaler would help move things out! :o
coke. oj and sugar are the least of lemmy's problems. his main problem is that he is a functioning alcohlic at 70 years of age. this can't last much longer.
Quote from: TBird1958 on August 17, 2015, 11:09:21 AM
Choosy livers (i.e mine) choose a good Single Malt Scotch......... Like Bowmore 12 year :)
Vodka.....pfffft. :-*
Wasn't it you who used to claim you had a stunt liver?
There are old livers, and there are bold livers, but there are no old bold livers; unless, maybe, served with some fava beans, and maybe a nice chianti... :vader:
I think his real issue is his severe diabetes. Alcohol and diabetes are not a great mix.
I wish him a long (further) life, but if you would have asked anybody in Hawkwind in the early seventies who'd be the first to go among them, then Lemmy would have won hands down. No one would have believed he'd reach 70. As it turned out, he outlived quite a few of them.
Quote from: Dave W on August 17, 2015, 08:50:22 PM
Wasn't it you who used to claim you had a stunt liver?
8)
Yep, but even at my worst I'm a rank amateur compared to Lemmy. I don't go out as much as I used to and never drink at band shows until I'm done playing - then I usually have just one. Life's much better. At home I don't drink wine and only occasionally even have a bottle of anything in the house.
Two beer limit when I'm running model trains at my buddies house ;D
I hear you, Mark. I've never had more than two beers a night since I was in my early 20s, and rarely ever drink at home. Since my health crisis last year, I've had exactly one beer in the past eleven months.
Two beers is my usual limit, with an extension to three if I start early, stay up late and don't drive.
A glass of malt, once a week, whilst having a soggie and reading a book... slainte...
Quote from: Highlander on August 18, 2015, 04:19:53 PM
A glass of malt, once a week, whilst having a soggie and reading a book... slainte...
Kenny.....What's a soggie? ;)
Since getting divorced, I no longer have a reason to drink. :mrgreen:
I'm still trying to figure out how Lemmy's imbibing habit constitute "news". :o
Lemmy is always newsworthy. Always was.
He's outlasted a few folks.
(http://i1319.photobucket.com/albums/t666/blowtorches/U1Da2lc_zpsyue1tztj.jpg)
No BS, I've never had a beer in my LIFE. Growing up, my neighbors were alcoholic sisters transplanted from Ohio and one of them drank Ol' Milwaukee by the CASE and saved her (mostly) empty cans in trash bags outside. The smell that wafted over from over a football field away put me off beer for life. I have a similar problem with vodka; a years worth of fermented rotten potatoes stored in a broken deep freeze created an aroma worse than a human corpse, one that I can smell in ANY potato based vodka. I still run on the same bile and piss I've always had and soon getting off nights in about a month will put me back onstage again. 8x10 therapy carrying AND playing my cab also ought to help with my damned kidney stones (and no, they aren't the ones that beer helps) and my wonderful gf will help with everything else.
Seeing Lemmy in person 15 years ago, at the start of the set he looked his age and then some, but as the show progressed, he grew younger while dispensing nuggets of wisdom from the stage about sex, life, and rock 'n roll, all of them admonitions to treat women decent (in bed at least) and live every day like it is your last. The man does what he does: everything louder than everything else. I like that philosophy. ...and whiskey. Whiskey is OK by me. :mrgreen:
I don't much care for drinking, but I have tried various things through the years. It's funny that Old Milwaukee should be mentioned. Out of the different kinds of beers I've had, it's the worst. I probably do 90% of my drinking when I'm in Europe. That's every few years. I'm around friends who drink. Hardly any of my friends in the U.S. drink. I don't like drinking alone. So, for the most part I don't drink. Plus, in general, American beer usually just doesn't taste very good to me anyway. All joking aside, though, I can't even imagine a worse beer than Old Milwaukee. I can easily see how it could totally turn someone against beer forever. Even the cheapest German beer I've had is light years ahead of it. Of course, Dutch and Belgian beer are also very good.
Edit:
Now that I think about it, I am getting Old Milwaukee and Milwaukee's Best mixed up. It's Milwaukee's Best that I found so horrible. I can't remember anything about Old Milwaukee, but I've probably had some at one time or the other. But I can name other beers I don't like--Bud, for instance, is almost as bad as Milwaukee's Best. We've had this discussion before at the LBO. Even though it's supposed to be a cheap beer, the only American beer I can name which I kind of like would be Pabst. I haven't had any in a long time. But it used to be very inexpensive and it was well worth the money.
PBG... Bravo, Sir...! Bravo...!
Dave posting that picture of him with Nancy and Sid reminded me of images of him with Wendy "O" ... it would be nice to see a pic of him and Keef, together...
Space Ritual I bought second hand in '74 having become a fan in '72 when I bought Silver Machine (along with Cooper and Slade, so an early musical hero, sort of) and whenever I think of Hawkwind in that era Lemmy and Stacia immediately come to mind, not necessarily in that order... bought the single Kings of Speed on release, which had an interesting b side, resplendent with a Simon House violin solo... this is how I discovered Motorhead...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOc8AynSUm8
I still have my (their) first tour-shirt and it gets an outing from time to time... getting rather moth-eaten and worn, considering its age... (I heard that; the Tee, not me! ;D)
(http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu280/kjrstewart/Front%20Page/8de3b0a5-bbb8-4a27-abd9-5f003ad7042f_zpsmz2hw6ny.jpg)
Sums up his life as it's emblazoned on the front with "Born To Lose" and on the back "Live To Win"... ;)
Quote from: TBird1958 on August 18, 2015, 05:18:40 PM
Kenny.....What's a soggie? ;)
I have a bath once a (delete as preferred) week/month/year, whether I need it or not... :mrgreen:
Bad news, Motörhead cancels Texas shows (http://www.chron.com/entertainment/music/article/Motorhead-temp-6483563.php).
Here's a video from the Austin show where Lemmy stopped after three songs. Toward the end he apologizes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX7P6c0VwBQ
Quote from: Dave W on September 05, 2015, 08:08:02 AM
Bad news, Motörhead cancels Texas shows (http://www.chron.com/entertainment/music/article/Motorhead-temp-6483563.php).
Here's a video from the Austin show where Lemmy stopped after three songs. Toward the end he apologizes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX7P6c0VwBQ
That makes me sad
Quote from: Psycho Bass Guy on August 18, 2015, 10:44:15 PMI have a similar problem with vodka; a years worth of fermented rotten potatoes stored in a broken deep freeze created an aroma worse than a human corpse, one that I can smell in ANY potato based vodka.
The Polak in me finds this hilarious and tragic.
Quote from: wellREDman on September 05, 2015, 10:45:23 AM
That makes me sad
Props to Lemmy for gutting it out as long as he did. He's clearly near the end. Better to die in your boots than on your back.
Not looking good... one day, even Keef will go...
Quote from: Psycho Bass Guy on September 05, 2015, 05:25:27 PM
Props to Lemmy for gutting it out as long as he did. He's clearly near the end. Better to die in your boots than on your back.
Maybe he can just stop touring and still have a decent life. OTOH maybe he knows more than he's letting on. If he knows his number will be up soon regardless of what he does, that might explain why he's still out on tour.
Maybe he truly loves to play...if time is limited, might as well do what you love.
My first Motorhead tour shirt I mentioned earlier in this thread coins it... Born To Lose - Live To Win...
Oh my, they shouldn't allow him on tour in that state, he's either sedated or in pain (or both), it shows in his bass playing too, terrible. I don't want to see Lemmy die on stage or in a tour bus, I want him to say good bye at home, surrounded by some people he likes, and fondling one of his beloved SS daggers. Gigs like that do a disservice to the Motörhead legacy. That band never wanted to be feeble.
Here's a statement on the Motörhead facebook page earlier today:
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x119/Goth-n-roll/Screenshot_2015-09-07-16-30-14_zps328xqsl1.png)
Having lung infections and not being able to cure it quickly is not a sign of a sprightly health (or age), I have to say. I don't find anything reassuring in the above statement. It says: "A 70-year-old is touring with pneumonia becaue he is unreasonable." "The road" is not the place where you cure pneumonia. :-\
The road is a place to die with your boots on, I'm afraid, mein freund... :sad:
What's so glamorous about dying in some dingy Motel where they don't even know who you are?
Nothing... ask JAE...
For some, it's all they know, and life ceases to have any meaning when they are not on the stage, or between them... Bob Seger wrote all about it, quite succinctly... Lemmy's a musical road warrior, and always has been, and always will be... no matter what...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAbY2cmEsS0
Regardless of how he may feel, IMHO it's foolish to go out on the road again so soon.
I cannot agree more...
Quote from: uwe on September 08, 2015, 09:39:54 AM
What's so glamorous about dying in some dingy Motel where they don't even know who you are?
Not sure. To use JAE as an example, was he a badass for dying in a hotel room surrounded by mountains of coke and a gaggle of hookers, exactly on his terms, or was he an overgrown loser living out his teenage fantasies with no real friends or family left to surround himself with?
Lemmy seems not to have gone in for the opulent wannabe country squire splendour that a lot of rock stars went in for. He has a dingy flat full of Nazi paraphernalia somewhere in LA and spends his down time slumped in a corner of the Rainbow. No mansions, no rooms full of rare Rickenbacker basses and no duck ponds. I guess he knows nothing else but to keep touring and keep moving on, JD and Coke (other type) in hand?
I prefer dying in bed with someone who is not getting paid to spend time with me (be it a hooker or a nurse). I'm old-fashioned that way.
Quote from: Alanko on September 09, 2015, 03:03:07 AM
JD and Coke (other type) in hand?
He's switched to Vodka & Orange Juice because he's sure that's much healthier... :mrgreen: (true story)
Lemmy has nothing to prove. He LOVES the road and playing his music. He's had plenty of opportunity in his life to "settle down" and hasn't. Obviously he is doing what makes him happy. I envy that.
Listen to the lyrics of the song he wrote for Slash's first solo album, Dr Alibi
whenever I think about Lemmy passing they pop into my head, i think they are sung from the heart,
If anyone has earned the right to go like Tommy Cooper (if he wants to) it's Lemmy.
I don't claim to know what Lemmy is thinking. I just hope it's his own decision to go on with the tour rather than being pushed by bandmates, promoters or debt holders.
Quote from: Dave W on September 09, 2015, 01:20:37 PM
I don't claim to know what Lemmy is thinking. I just hope it's his own decision to go on with the tour rather than being pushed by bandmates, promoters or debt holders.
I have friends who have toured with him, and have heard many not-for-public stories. Lemmy is very much master and commander of the Motorhead ship
tommy cooper = dick shawn, jackie wilson, mark sandman and whoever else you can dig up.
You never know, he could live a LONG time from now...
My wife's grandpa (father's father) is 94 (or maybe 95 by now, I forget when his b-day is) He's been a RAGING alcoholic his whole life. Like, was given "last rites" and a month to live, in... 1965 when his wife died. He's been functional with everybody trying to keep him in line, but when he turned 90 his Dr told the family, "Let him go, he's lived this long already, just keep him out of the car". He's the gallon-0-vodka-a-day kinda drinker, too... and is showing NO signs of slowing down. They had 5 kids, who all live right by him so they all keep an eye on him, but he seems healthier than I do at 1/4 his age...