After over 13 years with Johnny Smoke I have decided to call it quites. In a nut shell the guitar player and drummer can be real dbags at times. Lately their self importance has been intolerable. Also the guitar players "girfriend" a walking train wreck with nothing but chaos in tow has been actually sabotaging us at gigs so bad to the extent that we are never asked back. I am at peace with my decision, something will turn up. Onward and upward.
I'm sure you'll move on to bigger and better things. The "girlfriend" situation you mentioned is the kind of thing, needless to say, which has ruined numerous bands. Often a recipe for disaster--when just one person's interests run counter to the interests of the band.
I do think you gotta be friends first in order to keep a band together...
I will miss the music...it always reminded me of growing up in the 70's.
Sorry to hear this, Scott. Shame when something like this happens after so long.
i see this as an opportunity to move on to a better, maybe more creative situation.
That had to be a tough decision after all of that time in the band. I'm sure you will find a better situation to be involved in.
I'm sorry to heab that. I did the same thing a month ago because of a controlling Guitar player/singer/songwriter (who should have just stuck to guitar) and a drummer with Bi-Polar Mentall Illness. I tried for 2 years. I'm at the point in my life now where I may just walk away and sell all but maybe 1 bass.....
Hey, stuff happens Bud. It will work out for the best. When you're in a situation that is wrought with frustration , just getting out of it is halfway to something better ;D.
Rick
Scott, hopefully you'll take some time away - there are other things in life.
I have no doubt that you'll find some new people to make music with, dysfunctional adults and their significant errors don't make good bandmates.
Your situation reminds me that at some point I'll have to hang it up wth my band, can't prance around in a miniskirt forever...........
Wow Scott, I'm surprised and sad. I know what you're going through. When I left my previous group it was hard, but ended up much better in the end. I hope for you that it yields a breath of fresh air for you. You've got lots of history and connections in ROC, I'm sure you'll connect with someone before you know it! Best wishes! Enjoy the time off in between, it can be refreshing too!
Scott, this may be tough but it will also improve your quality of life. I'm sure you'll connect with a better group soon.
Sorry to read this Scott. I truly enjoyed all the YouTubes you'v been sharing. I always had the idea you guys had a pretty tight friendship.
One thing is for certain: A great bass player like you won't be without a band for long.
Bummer, but things happen for a reason - I'm sure you can do without the stress and aggravation - enough of that in daily life as it is. Like the others have said - something better will most likely turn up when you least expect it.
You always stay when the good outweighs the bad. You are doing the right thing by moving on. I've been there. I quit TWO bands at same time because someone's spouse was making the experience unbearable....it was my ex. That led me to Kelp, which was all original music. She HATED that, and never came to more than one or two shows. It was a win all the way around, and it's the only recording I've ever released.
I recommend building a shed... ;D
(bummer... but better out than in if that's the situ)
Quote from: CAR-54 on July 21, 2013, 05:08:42 PM
I recommend building a shed... ;D
(bummer... but better out than in if that's the situ)
Scott, how do you feel about squirrels....? :-X
You get lots of different types over there... we just have sciurus carolinensis or vulgaris...
Keep playing until you can't do it well...Play what you love....Find people of a like mind...Find people who are drug free, find people who are positive and well educated...
Move on until you find a real good spot. It's out there. Never lose that working class edge, it's your heritage...Peace...
My best friends are in my band. Even the one that occasionally pisses me off, is a really good person...
I'm sure something bigger and better will come along Scott. I stopped playing last year just because I was burned out. It also worried me driving home at 3 or 4 a.m. with lots of (obvious) drunks on the highway. I honestly don't know how I did it for all those years. I'm in bed on the weekends by midnight at the latest nowadays. :)
A pity but a good decision. I did the same last week. More about that later. For similar reasons btw.
La La Bye-byes...?
Wow Scott, I am shocked. Still it sounds like it was intolerable. Life is too short to be dealing with crap you don't need. Moving on will probably be the best in the end for you.
I was in a band in the mid-90s, a 3-piece with me on Hamer 12-string. We had professional management, booking agent, lawyer, steady gigs across the Southwest, a nice van, and a distribution deal with Blockbuster. We were selling lots of CDs in Japan and a tour there was being discussed. But, we also had a guitarist/lead singer who was a total loudmouth d-bag. He was everything one imagines when thinking of a "right-wing wacko", he was very proud of his politics and never shut up about it. The only upside was he was very lazy and slept most of the time we were on the road in the van. The drummer and I got to where we hated the guy and forced our poor soundman to share hotel rooms with him. It finally got to be too much for me, and even though I was doing exactly what I wanted to in life, and making a living at it too, I left the band. At first I was sad for the obvious reasons but my sanity was better off for doing it.
For a pro such as yourself something will come along, it always does.
The really sad part is that the longer you are around musicians, the more stories like this you collect. :rolleyes:
Time for that Slade tribute, Scott!!! It's been in you waiting to get out ...
Quote from: uwe on July 23, 2013, 05:14:13 AM
Time for that Slade tribute, Scott!!! It's been in you waiting to get out ...
Slade??? I think it's time someone put together a serious anthological tribute show to Tommy James! Just kidding!
Don't go knocking Tommy James now! He was seriously popular for quite a while. Always wondered what a Shondell was, though.
Ah, sorry Scott. That was a long run though, it's not like you didn't "see it through". When things become unbearably frustrating and unprofessional, it's time to make a change. Something appropriate will come along before too long, I'm sure of that!
Quote from: Dave W on July 23, 2013, 08:55:02 AM
Don't go knocking Tommy James now! He was seriously popular for quite a while. Always wondered what a Shondell was, though.
http://www.allmusic.com/artist/troy-shondell-mn0000495508
In 1961, Troy Shondell's "This Time (We're Really Breaking Up)" rode the charts for four months. Within the first week of the single's release, lovers of his swamp pop sound snatched up 10,000 copies of the record. In a single year, sales rose to more than three million copies. Shondell's influence rippled through the young rock & roll community. Up-and-coming bands named themselves after him. Tommy James, at the time a guitarist in Michigan who would later score with "I Think We're Alone Now" and "Mony Mony," had the Shondells. In Illinois, Jim Peterik, later known for Survivor and the Ides of March, dubbed his group the same. Recording for La Louisianne, Warren Storm and Rod Bernard also tipped their hat to Shondell when they named their act after him. But the million-seller was not Shondell's first shot at stardom. An earlier attempt was cut short in 1960 on Halloween when a heart attack killed his father and brought Shondell home to help his mother run the family business. Until then, he'd been making steady headway on a musical career that started while he was still a teenager in Fort Wayne, IN. The label Smash released his first single, "My Hero," which he recorded as Gary Shelton, his real name. The Mercury Records release "Kissin' at the Drive-In" came out the following year.
Quote from: the mojo hobo on July 23, 2013, 11:04:55 AM
http://www.allmusic.com/artist/troy-shondell-mn0000495508
In 1961, Troy Shondell's "This Time (We're Really Breaking Up)" rode the charts for four months. Within the first week of the single's release, lovers of his swamp pop sound snatched up 10,000 copies of the record. In a single year, sales rose to more than three million copies. Shondell's influence rippled through the young rock & roll community. Up-and-coming bands named themselves after him. Tommy James, at the time a guitarist in Michigan who would later score with "I Think We're Alone Now" and "Mony Mony," had the Shondells. In Illinois, Jim Peterik, later known for Survivor and the Ides of March, dubbed his group the same. Recording for La Louisianne, Warren Storm and Rod Bernard also tipped their hat to Shondell when they named their act after him. But the million-seller was not Shondell's first shot at stardom. An earlier attempt was cut short in 1960 on Halloween when a heart attack killed his father and brought Shondell home to help his mother run the family business. Until then, he'd been making steady headway on a musical career that started while he was still a teenager in Fort Wayne, IN. The label Smash released his first single, "My Hero," which he recorded as Gary Shelton, his real name. The Mercury Records release "Kissin' at the Drive-In" came out the following year.
Let's not forget that Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley first met and worked together doing background vocals for Tommy James.
All great points. Tommy James's music just happened to be some of the most popular music out there when I started my first band. So, even though that may be looked at as bubblegum pop now, it did have its place in music history. But things happened. For instance, he collapsed on a stage not from where I am now. It was very serious and I think set him back quite a lot. Also, he missed the opportunity to play at Woodstock and also to collaborate with George Harrison. Still, I'll remember the fulfillment I felt when my garage band actually did an acceptable version of "I Think We're Alone Now" for the first time. (If you're around 15, it can be a big deal.)
That being said, this is still a thread on GodofThunder's situation (which sounds like quite a serious thing to me.) My personal take on the matter, though, (as I've already stated,) is that it will eventually lead to a going forward, not backward.
Your right but I'm in the wrong damn country for it! Life can be so cruel.
Quote from: uwe on July 23, 2013, 05:14:13 AM
Time for that Slade tribute, Scott!!! It's been in you waiting to get out ...
If they are on my bird feeder I get out the pellet gun.
Quote from: Pilgrim on July 21, 2013, 05:29:21 PM
Scott, how do you feel about squirrels....? :-X
SCOTT...! :o
... and here was me sorting out some shed plans ... ;D
Quote from: godofthunder on July 23, 2013, 03:05:55 PM
Your right but I'm in the wrong damn country for it! Life can be so cruel.
Looking for a job in Europe is not out of the question. I've tried before and will be trying again soon. But you're right; the U.S. isn't exactly the place where people appreciate Slade.
Quote from: godofthunder on July 23, 2013, 03:05:55 PM
Your right but I'm in the wrong damn country for it! Life can be so cruel.
Well, you can start with a Quiet Riot tribute, that gives you two tracks already ...
Nice Uwe, straight for the jugular.
Quote from: uwe on July 23, 2013, 04:47:08 PM
Well, you can start with a Quiet Riot tribute, that gives you two tracks already ...
I cannot be blamed for the ignorance of your good countrymen regarding all things Slade!!! You might find a kindred spirit with Fräulein Rommel though, name the band Dueling TBirds and set up a rehearsal space in the Midwest so both of you have the same distance to it when you fly in once a week!
I remember you left Johnny Smoke once before, kissed (in an allegoric way I assume) and made up. Experience tells that if leaving has become necessary once more, there was dry rot to begin with. You're a great bass player (as I heard on your Johnny Smoke recording if mixed a bit loud ... :mrgreen: ), so don't worry, other people will be glad to play with you. I'm sure you'll carve (ain't saying whether that pun was intended or not ... :P ) out your sonic and musical niche in any band.
I've always found it fascinating that Chas Chandler played such a role in Hendrix's and Slade's career. Who would have thought that the bass player for the Animals would end up doing such things? Despite Hendrix making a major mistake, in my opinion, by letting Chas leave during the recording of Electric Ladyland, he still had it in him to do more. He had the confidence to do something with Slade later on and did it. I'm of the opinion that if you have the confidence, sooner or later something is going to happen.
Quote from: The Great Gatsby on July 23, 2013, 03:32:00 PMthe U.S. isn't exactly the place where people appreciate Slade.
Appreciate who? :P
Sigh, a bunch of Brummies who gave these guys a living.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJu2IAxIoyY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RabCRjOL7nw
"So you think my singing's out of time ...
Well, it makes me money ..."
That's almost as good as Marc Bolan's irresistible
"I've got a Rolls Royce ...
Cause it's good for my voice ..."
They tried it twice...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geHMqXOtzAU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg-q8vSPxao
Personally, they should have done this one. Oh, Slade's versions are by and far the best.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HP6UblnU5Q
Gud bye T' Jane was the first Slade song I ever heard! Still my fave too!
I still love the lyrics........ "Get a kick from her '40 trip boots"........"See, see, see...she's a queen" ;D
QR what a ungrateful lot. I seem to remember Dubrow slagging Slade of at every opportunity. I saw QR once that video reminds me what a shite show it was. I guess the only good thing to be said about QR covering Slade is that it financed their come back in the 80's and still continues to pay bills for Holder and Lea. Poor Don and Dave are still out there slogging through the trenches still.
Uwe you are correct I did leave once before! I did come back and with the upper hand. Even the upper hand can't fix whats going on now. I won't air it all in public but I will PM you if you want all the gory details.
Quote from: godofthunder on July 24, 2013, 03:37:04 PM
QR what a ungrateful lot. I seem to remember Dubrow slagging Slade of at every opportunity. I saw QR once that video reminds me what a shite show it was. I guess the only good thing to be said about QR covering Slade is that it financed their come back in the 80's and still continues to pay bills for Holder and Lea. Poor Don and Dave are still out there slogging through the trenches still.
Quiet Riot was probably the worst show I ever saw. The band opened, the curtain failed to open, and the band literally stopped cold in 30 seconds, and then started over. Dubrow's voice was one I think I always referred to as sounding like he was arguing with the microphone. Rudy Sarzo, on the other hand, was very friendly and polite. I mentioned seeing him at Monopoly in Chicago when he was in Shatterstar, and he not only remembered the club, but who was on the bill with them. I was supposed to take them out and show them a good time while doing the interview. Dubrow raced out of the dressing room, told the band they were leaving and that was it.
You'll find bigger and better things, Scott!
Quote from: godofthunder on July 24, 2013, 03:43:46 PM
Uwe you are correct I did leave once before! I did come back and with the upper hand. Even the upper hand can't fix whats going on now. I won't air it all in public but I will PM you if you want all the gory details.
Please do!
Quote from: godofthunder on July 24, 2013, 03:37:04 PM
... Poor Don and Dave are still out there slogging through the trenches still.
Some people don't know when to quit, but then again, it is quite a
drug ...
Quote from: uwe on July 24, 2013, 09:12:46 AM
Sigh, a bunch of Brummies who gave these guys a living.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJu2IAxIoyY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RabCRjOL7nw
"So you think my singing's out of time ...
Well, it makes me money ..."
That's almost as good as Marc Bolan's irresistible
"I've got a Rolls Royce ...
Cause it's good for my voice ..."
At that point in the early 80s, MTV could make almost any song popular by showing it a quadrillion times. That's what happened with Quiet Riot. As an observer, though, it was a little bewildering at times. I was not a fan.
Don and Dave need the money, Holder and Lea live of the royalties.
Quote from: CAR-54 on July 25, 2013, 12:10:35 PM
Some people don't know when to quit, but then again, it is quite a drug ...
I didn't think Quiet Riot were horrible. In their heyday they could entertain, there was worse stuff out there, DuBrow was both visually and vocally immediately recognizable and Sarzo was a hotter-than-most (and I don't mean his looks though they certainly helped QR's mass appeal) bassist/poser, Cavazo not as obnoxious a shredder than most, Banali could hold a rhythm. When they were just about to break they were on a German heavy metal TV festival show together with Judas Priest, Ozzy, Scorpions, what have you. They were the freshest band of them all and held their ground. Their debut (not counting the Randy Rhoads stuff for Sony) is IMHO a minor classic of the then LA glam/hair metal scene. "Metal Health" still draws a nostalgic smile to my face today. It's mindless, but pleasantly so.
I remember reading that DuBrow was unaware of Slade or Noddy Holder's existence at the time of the recording of that debut, he said he patterned himself after Steve Marriott. It was the producer who said "You sound like the guy from Slade" and recommended covering a Slade song. Given how little Slade meant in the US while Humble Pie ruled the stadiums for a while I tend to believe that.
Jim Lea said that the success of "Cum on feel the noize" as the QR-remake bought him a nice house, he has no complaints except that he said "They did not so much cover as rerecord it!".
It's all a matter of taste and probably a good idea to try and respect other people's taste. Around that same time period, Golden Earring's Twilight Zone video was also being played a lot. I totally loved that. I think Quiet Riot came out slightly later, I just wasn't interested at all. For one thing, Kevin DuBrow looked totally insane. I realize, of course, that that was just part of the act. Nevertheless, though, I just didn't like it. Also, his vocals on "Cum On Feel the Noize" sound kind of forced to me. But they were successful. So, it looks like they knew what they were doing, even if some people (like myself) didn't appreciate it.
QuoteI remember reading that DuBrow was unaware of Slade or Noddy Holder's existence at the time of the recording of that debut, he said he patterned himself after Steve Marriott
Thud....
I would never have caught that. DuBrow really doesn't have any soul or expression in his vocals. :rolleyes:
Quote from: The Great Gatsby on July 25, 2013, 05:14:41 PMAs an observer, though, it was a little bewildering at times. I was not a fan.
I'm with ya there. The first time I heard QR was on some TV show, and I could hardly believe what I was seeing. This thinning haired dork running around with a striped mic stand, and that overly raspy voice. And the poseur bass player. And the guitarist who wasn't particularly good. I thought the song was dumb as f%*k too. Then they got famous... :rolleyes: Now I'll admit - I was a huge KISS fan. But that happened when I was 12. By the time QR came along, I was probably 19 and heavy into prog and fusion. I did find it interesting how much hair DuBrow grew later in life. ;D ;) I eventually learned to appreciate Sarzo as a showman, and pretty good, solid riff-meister, though I thought he really overdid the showman part. But that was the times...
I saw Quiet Riot at the Starwood, Hollyweird, in early '77, second billed to VH with a band called Wolfgang 3rd billed (changed their name and had a 1 hit metal/hair anthem career in the early 80s with VH help. I can't remember the name change or the song title, happens more and more these daze). QR stank, most especially Dubrow who in addition to not being able to sing was really obnoxious onstage. Even back then he had a receding hairline and basically looked like Ronald MacDonald.
That's showbiz BS about being unaware of Slade, QR was doing 'Feel the Noise' way back then. (Slade played the Starwood in '75). Only decent song in QR's set. You could dig up Kevin Dubrow and stick him in front of a mic and he'd be as good as he was back then.
Oh, yeah...onward to bigger and better things, Scott!
I'll probably drop a couple points for saying this....
I actually like QR's version of the song, if nothing else it fit the times (yes, I like Slade's version better) and I heard more people here in the U.S. metion Slade the ever before, and I thought that to be a good thing in and of itself.............................
I'll not denigrate our forum by posting Oasis' cover of the song.................Detestable.
Quote from: TBird1958 on July 26, 2013, 10:11:08 AM
I'll probably drop a couple points for saying this....
I actually like QR's version of the song, if nothing else it fit the times (yes, I like Slade's version better) and I heard more people here in the U.S. metion Slade the ever before, and I thought that to be a good thing in and of itself.............................
I'll not denigrate our forum by posting Oasis' cover of the song.................Detestable.
I took that as a challenge...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx5wrm6Hck4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ5G2OSw0M4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py-kel49eGA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHzA_Umspqk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2_YxHnMLn8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43TA_p2MhVA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lImORwqN8U
Yikes, too much skin, except for the TWINS!
Gary, I'll find out where you live......... ;)
That QR played Slade songs back then is interesting, I had no idea. I actually thought DuBrows receding hairline cool, he had something slightly unsettling as a frontman - kind of like Gary Holton (Heavy Metals Kids) or Alex Harvey or Roger Chapman. He looked silly once he got the poodle.
The comparison with Kiss isn't a bad one, QR certainly catered to the 12-14 audience too.
Noel Gallagher is a card-carrying Slade fan and you have to be deaf not to hear it in his music - the common trait between Slade and Oasis is the beatlish influence. He has named Slade's Stairway to Heaven, namely "How does it feel" among his ten favorite songs.
I thought being a Slade fan just came along with U.K. citizenship ;)
Quote from: uwe on July 26, 2013, 06:16:06 AM
I remember reading that DuBrow was unaware of Slade or Noddy Holder's existence at the time of the recording of that debut, he said he patterned himself after Steve Marriott. It was the producer who said "You sound like the guy from Slade" and recommended covering a Slade song. Given how little Slade meant in the US while Humble Pie ruled the stadiums for a while I tend to believe that.
Long before they were an 80's (anyway) household name:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YffRGZum0hs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6jh-QFlLZU
I was a fan of the
other guys in Kevin's bands, but I always thought he was an unpleasant gasbag. I was taking bass lessons from Carlos Cavazo's brother when DuBrow changed their name back to Quiet Riot after Kevin decided to cash in on Randy's name after his death. Tony (my teacher) was in the band at the time. Once they got a little attention, Kevin had Chuck Wright come in on bass and then kicked him out once Rudy was available again (though, as usual, he didn't play on the album).
Even Quiet Riot's biggest original hit (Metal Health) was
not their original, it was a Snow song with new lyrics (Snow was Carlos and Tony's former band). They also covered one more Small Faces track (Itchycoo Park) in their later incarnation, as well as covering The Kinks, The Dave Clark Five and Spooky Tooth for good measure.
And for complete LA rock kid nerd points, some of Wolfgang became Autograph:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSdu9Zw6R54
Yep, that's the name and song I couldn't remember...had a feeling you'd come though, George. Thanks!
Quote from: dadagoboi on July 28, 2013, 02:37:41 PM
...had a feeling you'd come though, George. Thanks!
I've always remembered them because of the ridiculous story they told of how they claimed to have been formed. Supposedly, David Lee Roth bet Steve Lynch he couldn't form a band in time to open for VH on their shortly pending 1984 tour and he magically threw them together overnight. Even at 19 I found that hard to believe and I wasn't even aware of Wolfgang at the time.
What's wrong with the Oasis version? They gave it an archtypical Oasis arrangement which you either adore or hate ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxV10MA4eCY
What's wrong with it, is that it's Oasis.
With a singer who can't hide (and doesn't care) he's bored stiff.
What is Liam hiding behind his back? ???
Quote from: uwe on July 29, 2013, 10:14:21 AM
What's wrong with the Oasis version? They gave it an archtypical Oasis arrangement which you either adore or hate ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxV10MA4eCY
I'm with Rob..........
Lackluster at best.
Quote from: TBird1958 on July 29, 2013, 03:33:16 PM
I'm with Rob..........
Lackluster at best.
What metal sounds like when doing 'ludes. All fuzzy and sloshy. No edge.
I am oddly pleased that this thread has devolved into a discussion of one of my favorite bands and songs. Noel's guitar bits at times sound like Nod and Dave, making this version better than the QR version . I still don't get Oasis's lack of stage presence. ???
I'm no fan of Oasis, but I certainly prefer them to QR.
Quote from: gweimer on July 29, 2013, 03:59:12 PM
What metal sounds like when doing 'ludes. All fuzzy and sloshy. No edge.
But that (and looking bored on stage) kind of defines Oasis! I'm neither a fan nor do I think them horrible, they know a hook when they see it. Their very English aloof stage presence explains why they never conquered America I believe. But they became a Brit national treasure.
Mmmmmm............Exciting, like boiled chicken :rolleyes:
You tax-dodging tea bag chucker, act like the subject you are!!!
Quote from: uwe on July 30, 2013, 01:24:06 PM
You tax-dodging tea bag chucker, act like the subject you are!!!
For the right person..........Happily ;D
I haven't had my maid's outfit on in quite a while :-\
I would have to be an Indian Native American squaw outfit with braided pig tails to be historically accurate!!! And can you do that Boston accent?
Quote from: uwe on July 31, 2013, 08:47:24 AM
I would have to be an Indian Native American squaw outfit with braided pig tails to be historically accurate!!! And can you do that Boston accent?
For you?
Absolutely ;D
A drag squaw from Seattle faking a Boston accent. How much better can life get?! :mrgreen:
Quote from: uwe on July 31, 2013, 10:12:35 AM
A drag squaw from Seattle faking a Boston accent. How much better can life get?! :mrgreen:
Well, the accent doesn't have to be the only thing I fake! ;D
Life is good................................
I have excellent female scenery in the classroom this term, makes it that much more enjoyable!
(http://basoofka.net/files/images/epiphone_ripper_bass.jpg)
Quote from: uwe on July 31, 2013, 10:55:57 AM
(http://basoofka.net/files/images/epiphone_ripper_bass.jpg)
I just need 9 seconds of privacy! ;D
;D That is completely awesome.
[hysterically] This shameless depravity has just got to stop... [/hysterically] :P
(makes you wonder just what goes on in that Germanic mind of his...???) ;D
Quote from: CAR-54 on July 31, 2013, 12:17:34 PM
[hysterically] This shameless depravity has just got to stop... [/hysterically] :P
(makes you wonder just what goes on in that Germanic mind of his...???) ;D
Who's Uwe's or mine ;D
Quote from: CAR-54 on July 31, 2013, 12:17:34 PM
[hysterically] This shameless depravity has just got to stop... [/hysterically] :P
So, what kind of depravity would you prefer? ???
Who knew such a picture existed? Pokeherhenie with a Gibson (almost) bass! Maid to order ;)
Quote from: Pilgrim on July 31, 2013, 02:20:41 PM
So, what kind of depravity would you prefer? ???
As long as it's not shameless, that's alright by me... ;D
Quote from: TBird1958 on July 31, 2013, 01:30:46 PMWho's Uwe's or mine ;D
The
German German, of course, not the
Washington German... the Washington one might take a thesis or two and might be the crowning glory of someone's career... ;)
Quote from: CAR-54 on July 31, 2013, 03:35:05 PM
The German German, of course, not the Washington German... the Washington one might take a thesis or two and might be the crowning glory of someone's career... ;)
Let me assure you.........I'm quite German. The bits of my background that come from The Commonwealth have been methodically beaten into submission. ;D
You missed your calling, maybe... ;)
Quote from: TBird1958 on July 31, 2013, 06:08:37 PM
Let me assure you.........I'm quite German. The bits of my background that come from The Commonwealth have been methodically beaten into submission. ;D
The boots were a dead giveaway from the start.