The Last Bass Outpost
Gear Discussion Forums => Gibson Basses => Topic started by: lowend1 on February 07, 2010, 09:47:50 PM
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It appears (at least at 6:38 in this vid) that Mr. Palladino is playing a P-Bass fitted with a pair of 2-screw Thunderbird pickups. Comments?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSgUda5vPqk
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He must've gone by Mike Lull's place... :mrgreen:
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good eyes, i didn't catch that but prolly trying to sound like John's Fenderbird. ya reckon?
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I definitely saw the P-bass - couldn't BEGIN to make out the pickups.
I also saw the B-3 that the keyboard player was playing.
And I thought they totally rocked!!! I'd rather hear that music than some prepubescent boy band anytime.
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At first I thought it might have been a Lakland Glaub with dual Chi-sonics. Then I saw a better picture and it became clear in my head what he did....clever guy. It's a shame he can't get over his "P" fetish, but at least he ditched that Jaguar bass.
Also, what's with Pete using 7enders now?
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Good eye
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Unless that's a mahogany bodied P he's still kind of missing the point. Couldn't tell from the Youtube clip I saw. Could you actually hear the bass on the live broadcast?
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Could you actually hear the bass on the live broadcast?
Nope, not much of it at least. Even some of JAE's most important lines were covered by the "vocals" and "guitars" of the only remaining two original members.
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FWIW I think those are Lull pups, no way to be sure except maybe to ask Mike. Honestly compared to what I saw in his shop on Friday when I was taking the Hiwatt back - Pino's bass is nothing.......Just waiting for some pics from his office manager to share with you guys :)
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Just waiting for some pics from his office manager to share with you guys :)
More pron... :mrgreen:
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Yes!
Made a 3k Hiwatt seem like a good thing ;)
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It is a pity that the bass no longer plays a lead part in the Who's music. I could barley hear the bass. Imho they need someone who has studied John. Zak Starkey on drums had as much face time as Pete and Roger and handles the position beautifully.
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I thought the whole thing was sad except for the Tbird pups.
My daughter was repulsed by Pete's belly showing.
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"My daughter was repulsed by Pete's belly showing." Yet another Stuperbowl wardrobe malfunction ! I was laughing to myself over that.
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That pee looks ugly with those tbird pups, dunno why.
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That pee looks ugly with those tbird pups, dunno why.
It's not that much different than a Bass IV, or a Fender Zone Deluxe. I liked the Ashdown gear in the background. The sound wasn't all that great, but I did sense that the roar was trying to come out. I liked Zak's cymbals, though.
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first thing I noticed was those t-bird pups in his p-bass, too bad you couldnt hear the damm thing! What a CRAPPY mix.. You know, because its all about pete and roger.
Sorry, but moon and Entwistle made the band, but those Mod target cymbals were awsome!
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That pee looks ugly with those tbird pups, dunno why.
Because they're nickel/chrome - seriously. There are plenty of P-esque basses with pickups the size of those, but black. They don't look nearly as odd. Also, I'm not entirely convinced that those are Lulls (though they certainly might be). I'd imagine thet there are things in the Who storage areas that would make lots of us weak in the knees. Considering all the Thunderbird parts that John hoarded for the Fenderbirds, there's a 50-50 chance that those are originals - IMHO.
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Good eye
(http://bassoutpost.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3464.0;attach=764)
BTW, did they bring The Edge in to play rhythm? ;D
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Why do sidemen - in this case Herr Palladino - always wear the worst clothes? :rolleyes: (Except when they are in Kiss, Tommy and Peter at least look the part!)
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Why do sidemen - in this case Herr Palladino - always wear the worst clothes? :rolleyes: (Except when they are in Kiss, Tommy and Peter at least look the part!)
He just wear casual, i like that a lot more than seeing two old farts dressed as pirates (Roger) or latino mafioso rappers (Pete) ;D
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I was afraid they'd be a watered down version of the Who but they were quite good I thought. Mix did suck but that's live TV for you. Loved the audience singalong.
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first thing I noticed was those t-bird pups in his p-bass, too bad you couldnt hear the damm thing! What a CRAPPY mix.. You know, because its all about pete and roger.
Sorry, but moon and Entwistle made the band, but those Mod target cymbals were awsome!
It's always all about the stars, and Pete and Roger were always the primary stars. Even more so now that John and Keith are gone. I wouldn't expect it to be any other way.
That's not minimizing John and Keith's roles, it's just facing reality.
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I was afraid they'd be a watered down version of the Who but they were quite good I thought. Mix did suck but that's live TV for you. Loved the audience singalong.
I thought they did okay, considering all the drawbacks of doing something like a 12 minute show under those conditions. They aren't who they were in 1965, but I don't expect them to be.
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It is a pity that The bass no longer player a lead part in the Who's music. I could barley hear the bass. Imho they need someone who has studied John. Zak Starkey on drums had as much face time as Pete and Roger and handles the position beautifully.
You couldn't be more right!
And as much as I like Zak would have liked to have seen less of him...
Bass was almost nill... the opening bass part to Pinball Wizard was totally defalting.
Overall thought they were great!
My God, Daltrey will be 66 on March 1st and Townshend is 65!
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i liked pete's guitar outbursts, very R&R. they hired pino for the player he is and not to be an entwistle clone. hell, the who have been around 45 years or so and the core that made them what they are is still intact. not many band's can claim that.
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At this point it is like playing Classical music. The parts that were written and recorded need to be there and played with the intent in which they were written, not watered down or completely omitted. There are many players I bet who could have stepped into Johns slot and done a far better job than Pino, for christsake in the bp interview he himself tells of fans motioning the parts to him while he plays, he seems completley unaware of the legacy he is following. I have to say it bugs me. I would not doubt that Pete keeps him under his thumb but given Zaks performance on drums it would be nice to see the same kind of attention lavished on J.A.E.s parts.
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There are many players I bet who could have stepped into Johns slot and done a far better job than Pino,
Hell, we have someone here who does exactly that at every show (even in that hot leather skeleton outfit)! ;)
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I was impressed w/ Zak
He stepped into Moons shoes, yet doesn't imitate.
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I was impressed w/ Zak
He stepped into Moons shoes, yet doesn't imitate.
Exactly!
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Hell, we have someone here who does exactly that at every show (even in that hot leather skeleton outfit)! ;)
Curt was first on my mind, Hell I could do a better job than Pino.
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it seems like cover bands and tribute guys are the ones most interested in playing songs like they were recorded. i doubt the who at this point could even duplicate their tunes exactly.
Scott, you Really think you can do a better job than Pino? this one leaves me speechless.
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With all humility yes.
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Zak's history with Keith is well known to Beatle nerds everywhere. Last night I mentioned on a post elsewhere that Ringo's genes and Keith's enduring teaching influence have combined to make Zak one of the greatest rock drummers working today. The demand for Zak as a drummer in and among England's big bands is the same as it is for Josh Freese in the U.S. Zak nails it in every band he works with.
(http://api.ning.com/files/B*YTGBPjJYY5zTy66cLk5iM8eq3HW98WD1JMKIH1pwQWdEp5ireb2cXtokMy56ruDB3Tqi6W1fi5BkP0uJLzWmnoOF1FnSTJ/moonandZakStarkey.jpg)
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Considering all the Thunderbird parts that John hoarded for the Fenderbirds, there's a 50-50 chance that those are originals - IMHO.
I'd be pretty certain that a couple went "missing" and ended up on mine... ;D
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AWESOME show! The cimbals are BADASS!
Sad indeed that you can't hear the freakin' bass tho!!!! Fokk!
That is just WRONG.
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it seems like cover bands and tribute guys are the ones most interested in playing songs like they were recorded. i doubt the who at this point could even duplicate their tunes exactly.
Scott, you Really think you can do a better job than Pino? this one leaves me speechless.
Thanks for the props Scott!
...and yes, I would say Scott would play The WHO better than Pino.
Pino is a great session player… I actually LOVE his playing on Pete Townshend’s solo tune “Give Blood".
...some of the best fretless playing on a rock tune, IMHO.
But he heavily lacks while playing with The WHO. Funny thing is that from what I read,
when Pete asked him to play with The WHO in 2002 he told Pino that he would have to play much louder than he had in the past… guess he didn’t listen.
…And personally, as far as WHO Tribute tunes go, as for me, I only try to religiously duplicate one song as it was recorded, and that is The Real Me.
I’ll be 38 in March and have been worshiping at the alter of Entwistle since I was 15.
I have countless bootlegs that I’ve played along to… so I can honestly say that when we perform I have a large number of bootleg versions to delve into… I think it also keeps it fresh. I love studio WHO, but am obsessed with "LIVE" WHO.
Alright… that’s my 2 cents.
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If you noticed, Pino's bass even had Gibson-esque knobs instead of chrome P-bass knobs or thinner, top-hat jazz knobs. There are even three of them-- perhaps the original Thunderbird circuit as well?
Not that it mattered. You couldn't hear him. Personally I thought the entire performance was pretty embarrassing for the Who, and I consider myself a pretty big fan. They did their best but you just can't be the voice of youthful rebellion at 60 years of age. I'm glad Pete didn't placate his image and break his guitar; what a hollow gesture that would have been (even though that whimpy Strat deserved it).
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I'm glad Pete didn't placate his image and break his guitar; what a hollow gesture that would have been (even though that whimpy Strat deserved it).
Well, at this stage of the game, the Strat might be sturdier than Townshend. And, you guys do know that Daltrey is something like 5'3", right? Pete isn't much bigger.
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I thought the whole thing was sad except for the Tbird pups.
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Yeah, I was let down too - very sad for me. Perhaps Robert Plant has the right idea :sad:
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I thought they looked and sounded like a couple of old farts. I nearly spit my drink out when they both yelled, "Sure plays a mean pinball" as they sounded like my old man impression....... :bored:
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I am left with a "so what"!!! i can't do what i did 40 years ago and they are still rockin. i have trouble doing once what i used to do all the time and i'm still rockin. (maybe just a bluse-ing! but what the heck) yeah Roger is short and Pete is short and deaf (not sure if he has had Kochlear implants or not!) and i know he can't hit the riffs like he used to because he can't hear them, nor Roger the youthful scream but they are The Who and i still connect :popcorn:
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First I want to say I love The Who, second I don't hate Pino. As a life long fan of The Who and to be honest the demographic they are playing to they need to get it right. As the customer we decide what flys and what doesn't. They can make these, what could be there last performances a real tribute and testiment to their body of work ,instead we get watered down Kareoke versions of the songs. I don't care that Roger can't hit the high notes anymore, he still sings with conviction and Pete still seems to muster the aggression that drives him, neither are pitch perfect but at least it is real. I smiled ear to ear over Zak Starkey, clearly influenced by his Dad and Keith but yet making it his own. Pino should follow Zaks lead.
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i never took it that way Scott. all i remembered was a trip to Pittsburg Kansas in a black hearse to get pizza with a couple of nice girls with poofed out hair and listening to KC AM radio "i can see for miles" and i smiled. they are The Who, i'm not. my hats off to you for being the artist you are and playing as you do when you play classic rock. it is the same as my critique on Led. if i did not like them i would not have researched the origins of their music.
as for me, i'm still trying to hit some of those 16th notes Geezer hit and i'm still missing a few of them once in awhile. ;) ;)
and i like your original stuff too!!!
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I hope we get some answers about the bass. My colleague just interviewed Pino. Too late to ask now...
Fender made some P90-Strats for Pete. Will this be the first 'official' Fender/Gibson bass clone then?
Zak: I saw him with The Who and Oasis and he's great. Love him.
Pino: I guess The Who could have asked any bass player of a Who coverband, even playing the 'right' basses. But I think it's not okay to try to replicate the old sound. This is just a new 'Who' or 'The Two' as some people say. Like it or not.
I do like 'm but of course I prefer any DVD with JAE and Moon over any new DVD.
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I would have preferred to see them use someone like Billy Sheehan or Stanley Clarke to move the band forward vs being a retro has been act.
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They're more than happy being a retro act. That's where the money is.
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I'm gonna have to agree. They've more than paid their dues. Let them enjoy the time they have left in whatever fashion they, and their fans, choose. Hell, even Pearl Jam is starting to ride their own coattails.
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If JAE had given James McCartney a bass when he was 12, we wouldn't need this thread.
Succession planning, well worth it ...
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Pino is an excellent musician and tastefully bopping bassplayer, but he doesn't know what rock is even if you hit him with one. His bass playing with The Who is as out of context as if Bob Marley had replaced Ritchie Blackmore with Deep Purple. That is the big dif to JAE who was nothing but a rock player, albeit a busy and original one, but he played anything with a rock edge. The Who could have found bass players galore with a rock feel, but chose not to. JAE once said in Kenny Jones days that he misses Keith Moon "as a person, but not as a drummer, my job has become easier with Kenny drumming". I'm not sure whether JAE did not misjudge the musical chemistry he had with Moon in that quote, but it seems that Roger and Pete feel the same about JAE, they don't care for that type of bass playing. And it is not like they don't try to recreate other historic components of their music painstakingly, just listen to the intros of Barbara O'Riley and Won't Get Fooled Again, they practically ape the old synth sounds on those.
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"but he doesn't know what rock is even if you hit him with one." Now that's funny !
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Then I guess I just have to disagree with Roger and Pete's taste in bass playing. Without John Entwistle, I've found it pretty difficult to even be interested in the Who very much. In fact, when Entwistle died, I seriously questioned how the band would even carry on. In my mind, the Who is a shadow of its former self. However, the band has a perfect right to do as it pleases, even if that means picking bassists who don't match the Who's historically authentic sound.
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Of course they have a perfect right to do as they please. As do all of us, if they want to alienate their fan base I suppose that is up to them. I won't buy what there are selling. The Who Sell Out indeed.
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I believe the synth sounds you hear on "Baba" and "Won't Get Fooled Again" are the same ones Pete did for the original recordings though they appeared at the Super Bowl in truncated versions.
Agreed they need more of a Ox type bass player, Sheehan was a good idea.
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I can't see what the fuss is all about.
I think Pino Palladino is an awesome bassplayer. I really like his playing with the John Mayer Trio.
The Who a sell out? Installing a bass player to mimic JAE, now that would have been a sell out, if you ask me.
As long as they make good music it's cool with me.
If I want to hear The "real" Who, I can put on a record any time.
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Can't say it did much for me................I think Uwe's assesment of Pino is spot on.
No Keith Moon = bad
No J.A.E. = No Who.
I won't get fooled again ;)
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I do not expect anyone to dress like John, or use the same bass, amp, strings, picks, cords, etc. What I do expect is that the person who fills the slot learn the parts. 1/3 of the bands instrumentation is missing, If Pete's guitar parts were missing you can bet plenty of geetard Who fans would be up in arms.
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I only saw them once, in 1976... when Keith Moon died I wondered what they would do... I said this in another thread some time back but please... do tell me... what have they done since that really stood the test of time...
I tried to watch a special at the Albert Hall... it was just going through the motions...
This is a terrible thing to say but Pete just didn't live up to his words... I love their music, but...
Just as an aside... Rockin Ray noted the synth... iirc it was originally played with an ARP2600, widely regarded as one of the first times synth appeared on a recording and iirc it was the only version they used, period... listen to an alt version on the "legacy" release for a live attempt, and it is just not possible to replicate... both songs are just unique and blessed be Mr Townshend for getting it right, just... that... once... sheer perfection...
That was then, this is now... :sad:
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Of course they have a perfect right to do as they please. As do all of us, if they want to alienate their fan base I suppose that is up to them. I won't buy what there are selling. The Who Sell Out indeed.
AFAIK they still have a big fan base. It's fine if you and some others aren't a part of it any longer, but I'll bet they will continue to be popular even if they're a shadow of the original band.
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AFAIK they still have a big fan base. It's fine if you and some others aren't a part of it any longer, but I'll bet they will continue to be popular even if they're a shadow of the original band.
I am sure they won't miss me. :-*
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AFAIK they still have a big fan base. It's fine if you and some others aren't a part of it any longer, but I'll bet they will continue to be popular even if they're a shadow of the original band.
Hell... it works for Metallica! ;)
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Just as an aside... Rockin Ray noted the synth... iirc it was originally played with an ARP2600, widely regarded as one of the first times synth appeared on a recording and iirc it was the only version they used, period... listen to an alt version on the "legacy" release for a live attempt, and it is just not possible to replicate... both songs are just unique and blessed be Mr Townshend for getting it right, just... that... once... sheer perfection...
There were some REALLY interesting early electronic instruments! I'm a big fan of the Moody Blues (saw them about a year ago in Denver) and their early keyboard magic was done with a device called a Mellotron, which used 1/4" tape loops to replicate various sounds with a maximum duration of 8 seconds each....makes a very interesting read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mellotron
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I've always like Pino's playing. I'd even go as far as to contradict Uwe and call him a rock player (He's all over Paul Rodgers' "Muddy Water Blues" album, and despite the title, that album flat out rocks in alot of places.) However... within the rock idiom, there is only a handful of players who could live in the space formerly occupied by Entwistle (I'm speaking of players with "brand recognition" - no disrespect to anybody here). I'll admit to being disappointed - I'd like to hear somebody rip through those Oxian passages as well. Perhaps if Pete and Roger were not so long in the tooth, they would have gone for somebody with a larger presence. They have nothing to prove now, and trying to find the next JAE would be furthering only that person's career.
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AFAIK they still have a big fan base. It's fine if you and some others aren't a part of it any longer, but I'll bet they will continue to be popular even if they're a shadow of the original band.
I think that CSI has a lot to do with their overall fan base. I saw them about 14 months ago and the crowd was an odd mix - 40 to 60 somethings that were the old nucleus of the original fan base and 20 to 30 somethings, um, dare I say it - yuppie vermon that hooted like drunk frat boys when a CSI related song was played and acted lost during the rest of the show.
I saw them in 1980, with Kenny Jones, I had third row seats. Someone mentioned the intial bass line in Pinball Wizard during SB performance being anemic - it was. The show I saw in 1980 that same line almost caved the roof in of the stadium - I remember thinking that it must have loosened my teeth.
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I believe the synth sounds you hear on "Baba" and "Won't Get Fooled Again" are the same ones Pete did for the original recordings though they appeared at the Super Bowl in truncated versions.
Agreed they need more of a Ox type bass player, Sheehan was a good idea.
Sheehan played the Ox stuff SO well in Mike Portnoy's WHO Tribute band!
Portnoy is my fav drummer & he was DYNAMITE playin' Moon style too!
I was lucky to get in to see one of the few shows they did.
The WHO QUADROPHENIA TOUR in '72 was UNREAL & the L.A. Forum show was one of the best shows I've ever seen!
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Ow, I hate this: A 'greatest hits' of the Who has a sticker on the cover in Holland, saying: 'Known from CSI'. Same with my hero Paul Weller. His song Wild Wood was used in a beer commercial and a best of has 'known from the beer commercial' on it. I always tear both off in cd shops:)
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They should have taken Chris Squire who could have also helped in the backing voc department. He has time on his hands too as he is currently touring with a Yes tribute band I believe. :mrgreen:
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They should have taken Chris Squire who could have also helped in the backing voc department. He has time on his hands too as he is currently touring with a Yes tribute band I believe. :mrgreen:
Hahaha, ouch!
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Ow, I hate this: A 'greatest hits' of the Who has a sticker on the cover in Holland, saying: 'Known from CSI'. Same with my hero Paul Weller. His song Wild Wood was used in a beer commercial and a best of has 'known from the beer commercial' on it. I always tear both off in cd shops:)
I suppose next we'll find an Iggy's Lust for Life album with "known fron the Carnival Cruise Lines commercial."
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I suppose next we'll find an Iggy's Lust for Life album with "known fron the Carnival Cruise Lines commercial."
LMAO
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Hope they die before I get old..
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I suppose next we'll find an Iggy's Lust for Life album with "known fron the Carnival Cruise Lines commercial."
I'm still wondering if Carnival has ever really listened to the song, or understands what it's really about. Maybe it's one of their "special" cruises.
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I doubt if they care so long as it can fit their purpose.
Years ago I saw Paul Simon on a late night talk show saying he had turned down Midas who wanted to use "The Sounds Of Silence" for a muffler commercial.
"Hello Midas my old friend...." ;D
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Yeah, it's sort of like all the people using "Born In The USA" and "American Woman" as patriotic songs. You'd think somebody along the way would look at the lyrics.
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We have our glorious national anthem... read the derogatory (to Scots) sixth verse and don't wonder why "Flower Of Scotland" is the preferred "anthem" in Scotland...
iirc Craig Frost (GFR) and JP Jones also used Mellotrons to great effect...
If you are talking "don't understand" lyrics how about this - the BBC banned "Eight Miles High" for it's inferred drug references but "Walk On The Wild Side" never got even a sniff from the censor...
They should have taken Chris Squire who could have also helped in the backing voc department. He has time on his hands too as he is currently touring with a Yes tribute band I believe. :mrgreen:
There's got to be something "Spinal Tap" about that... :o ;D
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Also, what's with Pete using 7enders now?
He's been playing strats onstage for the past 21 years. Add a couple years around '67 and Pete has probably logged way more stage time on strats than any other sort of guitar.
By comparison, he only played the SG Special from about 1967 to '71, and Les Pauls from about 72 to 79, yet those are the iconic Townshend stage guitars because... well, because those were the peak years for the band, both onstage and in the studio. Nobody but us Who geeks gives a damn about the past couple decades.
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Nobody but us Who geeks gives a damn about the past couple decades.
Considering JAE died within the last decade or two, you'd be right. It's a shame too...
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JAE probably logged more time on PB's, but the Fenderbirds, the Alembics and the Warwicks get more attention because of their "iconic" status...
Slink... IKWYM... I'm a Neil Young Geek, but I'm honest enough to be more interested in what the NYA chucks out than any new release...
No offence meant to any Who fans but what significantly "new" has emerged since "Who Are You"...? my most played recording is almost certainly "Who's Next", and I own nothing ("new") post "WAY" (Who wise, excluding JAE stuff)
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I really like Face Dances and It's Hard. JAE is more up front on the mix on both these records and the Alembics can be heard on both LP's. I always like playing along to "You Better You Bet" as it is a really fun bass part. The Quiet One is possibly one of The Ox's finest songs. I love his lines (bass) on this one too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR5pgQ12DRQ
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No offence meant to any Who fans but what significantly "new" has emerged since "Who Are You"...? my most played recording is almost certainly "Who's Next", and I own nothing ("new") post "WAY" (Who wise, excluding JAE stuff)
Depends what you mean by "significant"!
There's the two albums with Kenny Jones, "Face Dances" (1979ish?) and "It's Hard" (1982ish?).
Neither sounds anything like the Who with Keith, so anybody looking for more of the old Who is bound to be disappointed. Both have some good songwriting by Pete, as well as some clunkers. And some cool Entwistle playing. These are the only studio Who albums that capture Entwistle's distorted-Alembic sound.
Then there was a whole lot of nothing during the band's hiatus.
Then there was the "Then and Now" compilation which I still haven't bothered to buy; it featured two new songs, "Real Good Looking Boy" and "Old Red Wine". I still haven't even heard the latter. I never bothered to buy this as I have all the other stuff on it and RGLB is a pleasant enough song but no big deal, kind of boring actually.
Finally, there's "Endless Wire", the first "new Who album" in decades, released in 2006. It includes a mini-opera called "Wire & Glass" with a typically baffling plot by Townshend that seems to be related to both his "psychoderelict" project and the old "lifehouse" story. There are some great songs here, some boring ones, some really weird ones that most old-school Who fans will probably hate. Despite the name on the cover, in terms of sound it's basically a Townshend solo record with lots of Daltrey vocals - it doesn't even use much of the current touring band. But hey, I like it. I had to give the band props for playing a good chunk of this material on their 2006 tour, I thought that was a ballsy move for a dinosaur band.
I'm with you about "Who's Next". I might rate that as my all-time favorite album by anyone. I like all this later stuff, but I sure don't play it that much by comparison.
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Depends what you mean by "significant"!
There's the two albums with Kenny Jones, "Face Dances" (1979ish?) and "It's Hard" (1982ish?).
Neither sounds anything like the Who with Keith, so anybody looking for more of the old Who is bound to be disappointed. Both have some good songwriting by Pete, as well as some clunkers. And some cool Entwistle playing. These are the only studio Who albums that capture Entwistle's distorted-Alembic sound.
Face Dances was the first "new" Who album to come out after I had become aware of them. Lots of great bass playing, and I loved that tone, which is probably his best ever on a studio record. IMHO.
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Face Dances was the first "new" Who album to come out after I had become aware of them.
(grumbly old man voice, waving stick in the air...) Young whippersnapper... ;D
I guess I'm just biased... I knew about "Lifehouse" (which just hung round PT's neck forever - think about it - "Who's Next" was spawned from the project, iirc) but I treat this site as a "place of learning", so any tips are appreciated - I guess the advent of iTunes (et al) means you don't have to buy a complete recording for just one track...
Now, how many of us have a real clunker in the lp/cd/tape collection, just because you loved that one track...? ;) anyone here ever get "Flash Fearless Vs The Zorg Women" to enjoy a song called "What's Happening" featuring another late, great (Scottish) bassist singer... such an excellent tune... admittedly, JAE does do more than just play on it... the whole LP, that is... there are other notables on this obscurity...
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We have our glorious national anthem... read the derogatory (to Scots) sixth verse and don't wonder why "Flower Of Scotland" is the preferred "anthem" in Scotland...
That got me curious, so I visited Wikipedia:
Around 1745, anti-Jacobite sentiment was captured in a verse appended to the song, with a prayer for the success of Field Marshal George Wade's army then assembling at Newcastle. These words attained some short-term use, although they did not appear in the published version in the October 1745 Gentleman's Magazine. The source of this verse was a later article on the song, published by the Gentleman's Magazine in 1837. Therein, it is presented as an "additional verse... though being of temporary application only... stored in the memory of an old friend... who was born in the very year 1745, and was thus the associate of those who heard it first sung", the lyrics given being:
Lord, grant that Marshal Wade,
May by thy mighty aid,
Victory bring.
May he sedition hush,
and like a torrent rush,
Rebellious Scots to crush,
God save the King.
The 1837 article and other sources make it clear that this verse was not used soon after 1745, and certainly before the song became accepted as the British national anthem in the 1780s and 1790s.[23][24] It was included as an integral part of the song in the Oxford Book of Eighteenth Century Verse of 1926, although erroneously referencing the "fourth verse" to the Gentleman's Magazine article of 1745.[25]
And although this thread is theoretically about The Who, I don't think they wrote it....
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And although this thread is theoretically about The Who, I don't think they wrote it....
... but they are Brits... ;)
Just elucidating Gary's point about what people thought were patriotic songs (but had not read the lyrics) ...
Anyway, Al, the day a thread stays on track... ;D
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Track?
They just closed the nicest short road race track near here...Second Creek Raceway near Denver.
Oh yeah, I see what you mean.....
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:mrgreen:
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I saw that first Hollywood Bowl show right after John died and thought Pino sounded great, especially for stepping in at the last minute.
Pete's playing was inspired that night. Lots of nice words and a great opening film of JAE images.
Seeing/hearing Pino do the My Generation bass solo made me feel a little uncomfortable though.
Towards the end of the set, Pete said something like, "We'll play everything he (Pino) knows." Which didn't seem to be a lot.
Pino seemed great for a filler at the time, but, to me, he now just seems too generic a player to be with these guys.
My vote would go to John Paul Jones!
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Why not throw McCartney and Starr into the Who! A complete rhythmsection, and a complete frontsection. Different styles, sure, but as someone once said it: It's only rock'n'roll.
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Right, right. It's only rock & roll... :o wait, you got it!
Bill Wyman!!
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i don't think Bill Wyman would fit at all in the Who.that would be the Why
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They should have taken Chris Squire who could have also helped in the backing voc department. He has time on his hands too as he is currently touring with a Yes tribute band I believe. :mrgreen:
My take on the performance was why didn't they have some backing vocalists off to the side to help out. For the TV audience, I think that would have helped a lot.
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I think it wasn't that the performance was that bad but whoever mixed it for TV screwed the pooch. Almost as bad as the old Monterey Pop clips before they cleaned up and remixed the sound for the recent re-release.
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I think it wasn't that the performance was that bad but whoever mixed it for TV screwed the pooch. Almost as bad as the old Monterey Pop clips before they cleaned up and remixed the sound for the recent re-release.
Apparently Daltrey and Townshend were not thrilled with the whole thing either. Daltrey complained about the lights, cameras and lack of crowd interaction - while Townshend bemoaned the lack of cheerleaders. Both felt the set was too short. Like Townshend's shirt.
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i don't think Bill Wyman would fit at all in the Who.that would be the Why
Possibly the best one-liner on this forum in the last 90 days!
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Why not throw McCartney and Starr into the Who! A complete rhythmsection, and a complete frontsection.
The "Beat-Who'lls"...! ;D
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I'm gonna guess the second guitarist (the guy who looked like The Edge meets Joe Satriani) was Pete's son?
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Simon Townshend, Pete's younger brother.
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Simon's quite a good player!
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Unlike his dad when it comes to playing lead! :mrgreen:
And now, unfortunately, The Who's four string lead guitarist is no longer with us.
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Unlike his dad when it comes to playing lead! :mrgreen:
Older brother, not dad.
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I mailed a contact at Fender's about Pino's bass. My contact mailed an important Custom Shop person and he said, roughly, the following:
'Pino lets the Custom Shop make basses for him personally with different (*) pick ups. These basses are for him only and we don't replicate them for others.'
(*) Nothing about the whereabouts of the pick ups.
This bass seems to be the first real official Fenderbird:)