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Title: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: sniper on January 11, 2010, 07:56:10 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110480108971&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: drbassman on January 11, 2010, 08:48:05 AM
Oh my, that is tempting!  I'd love to do a short scale (32") LP with a body like that!
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: sniper on January 11, 2010, 08:58:00 AM
Quote from: drbassman on January 11, 2010, 08:48:05 AM
Oh my, that is tempting!  I'd love to do a short scale (32") LP with a body like that!

i agree. thats why i set this to a 32" scale but i haven't done any more (still in the case needing a builder!!!), might consider selling it though as the Lacewood and Mahogany do go together well in this body. thought that would be a nice scale.
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: gweimer on January 11, 2010, 09:38:50 AM
Quote from: drbassman on January 11, 2010, 08:48:05 AM
Oh my, that is tempting!  I'd love to do a short scale (32") LP with a body like that!

I've got a neck for it, if you want to go for it.  I've decided to scrap my original project idea.  I can use the money, besides.
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: drbassman on January 11, 2010, 01:19:44 PM
Quote from: gweimer on January 11, 2010, 09:38:50 AM
I've got a neck for it, if you want to go for it.  I've decided to scrap my original project idea.  I can use the money, besides.

What shape is the neck in?
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: gweimer on January 11, 2010, 01:41:28 PM
Brand new.  Unfinished NOS stock that greatdealz puts up on Ebay.  Never used it.
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: Pilgrim on January 11, 2010, 01:42:29 PM
Dang you guys.  You even have ME looking at it...and I have too many projects already.
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: Basvarken on January 11, 2010, 04:04:06 PM
Quote from: gweimer on January 11, 2010, 01:41:28 PM
Brand new.  Unfinished NOS stock that greatdealz puts up on Ebay.  Never used it.

Are you saying that neck is short scale Gary??
If I'm not mistaken that's the neck presented as a Triumph neck, but in fact is a Ripper neck. Which would be 34" scale
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: sniper on January 11, 2010, 04:39:03 PM
yeah they are but, if you buy a 34" slotted fingerboard from this guy:

http://www.allenguitar.com/fretbd_pre-slot.htm

then you can cut off the first fret, have a 32.092 scale, cut extra frets in the big (body) end and have it long enough to cover a 34" neck with a 32" scale and have a 24 fret board. then you can set the neck deeper into the body (towards the bridge like i did on the SG pictured) and have a 32" 24 fret neck on a 34" neck blank and still get the head closer to the body to help with nose diving.
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: gweimer on January 11, 2010, 05:33:01 PM
I've actually not measured the neck.  It's probably what you say it is, though.
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: drbassman on January 11, 2010, 05:42:20 PM
I have 2 of those greatdealz necks, they are made for 34" scale.  If I should jump on this body, I'd just use one of those.
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: Pilgrim on January 11, 2010, 07:06:28 PM
I seem to hear it calling Bill's name......................
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: drbassman on January 12, 2010, 08:46:00 AM
Quote from: Pilgrim on January 11, 2010, 07:06:28 PM
I seem to hear it calling Bill's name......................

So tempting...............I have the pups, neck, tuners and inlays already.
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: Highlander on January 12, 2010, 09:03:33 AM
My side of the Atlantic, too... no parts that I'd need to get to go with her... I'm watching, but I'll happily defer to you, Bill... (painfully... just being honest with myself - to few instruments and need to work on those that I have...)
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: Barklessdog on January 12, 2010, 12:50:36 PM
Quote from: drbassman on January 12, 2010, 08:46:00 AM
So tempting...............I have the pups, neck, tuners and inlays already.

If this is a Gibson body, it appears to the Non chambered three point bridge version, which means it could be a 10 pound+ body.
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: Highlander on January 12, 2010, 02:02:19 PM
Anybody got any idea how much this body is worth, or how high she might go, so I can definitely count myself in or out... I know my budget...
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: Highlander on January 13, 2010, 03:36:02 AM
Someone in the UK has declared an interest that is not me... they have now asked for cost to uk...

Still curious what anyone thinks this is genuinly worth, excluding bidding wars, which I would not be interested in... PM if you would rather not post as if I am silly enough to bid I need to know what I would be getting myself in for... remember that I have not bought an instrument since 1987
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: Barklessdog on January 13, 2010, 04:48:02 AM
Since it is probably non chambered, I would only spend $200 US tops
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: Highlander on January 13, 2010, 06:02:19 AM
Bill, if you have a definite use for this let me know and I'll keep out of it...

I should concentrate on what I have yet to finish, anyway...  ;)
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: sniper on January 13, 2010, 12:14:08 PM
got an answer for a BIN but i think the price is too high on a BIN ... "Dear cw644, Are you ok at 275$ for a bin ? thanks, - djerba_camel".

i think i'll tell him (her) that i wanted to post a BIN price in a forum i am a member of. a person should be able to get it for a lot less at auction ... i'm a thinkin anyway. it is finished and does have some trim (forgot what it is called) around the body though and is a set neck. it does not appear to have a reserve ... all in all might not be a bad deal but one would have to be commited to finishing it.
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: Highlander on January 13, 2010, 12:45:43 PM
That would be most of what I've got put aside for my speakers... 3rd strike... someone else want to pick up the bat...?
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: Pilgrim on January 13, 2010, 01:09:42 PM
Quote from: Barklessdog on January 12, 2010, 12:50:36 PM
If this is a Gibson body, it appears to the Non chambered three point bridge version, which means it could be a 10 pound+ body.

How kind of you to point that out!

My GAS is hereby thoroughly dissipated.
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: OldManC on January 13, 2010, 02:01:13 PM
Bill could easily take care of chambering and splicing it back together. In fact, I'd like to see pics of that project!
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: Highlander on January 13, 2010, 02:10:48 PM
Could someone explain what "chambering" is all about...? A new one on me...
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: gweimer on January 13, 2010, 02:38:48 PM
Quote from: Kenny Five-O on January 13, 2010, 02:10:48 PM
Could someone explain what "chambering" is all about...? A new one on me...

The simple answer is that there are holes in the body...    ;D
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: Highlander on January 13, 2010, 02:45:30 PM
Cheese-bass...?
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: Dave W on January 13, 2010, 02:49:27 PM
Do a Google Images search for chambered guitar body, you'll see a few examples.
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: Highlander on January 13, 2010, 02:55:03 PM
By your commandzzzz...

(http://www.gregterzian.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/chambered_les_paul.jpg)

This was on a Fender site - I presume someone did an X-ray...
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: Dave W on January 13, 2010, 02:59:26 PM
That's got a lot of chambering, not all are done that way. Many have a lot of solid wood left.
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: Highlander on January 13, 2010, 03:21:19 PM
We live and learn... now I think things are falling into place - this is similar to Bill's Rickie project... a not hollow hollow body, but not in the LP's case...

Excuse the ignorance on this, Dave, et al... Is there any advantage apart from weight...? I presume this can cause some "resonance" to occur to the sound...
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: Dave W on January 13, 2010, 10:26:12 PM
Quote from: Kenny Five-O on January 13, 2010, 03:21:19 PM
We live and learn... now I think things are falling into place - this is similar to Bill's Rickie project... a not hollow hollow body, but not in the LP's case...

Excuse the ignorance on this, Dave, et al... Is there any advantage apart from weight...? I presume this can cause some "resonance" to occur to the sound...

IMO any noticeable change in weight is going to change the sound a bit. Aside from that, it probably depends on the amount of chambering and the thickness of the top. A little bit isn't going to affect it any more than having a large control cavity would. But one like that LP pic you posted above might be noticeably more resonant if the top isn't too thick.
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: Barklessdog on January 14, 2010, 04:18:40 AM
My Chambered body I made for my Blueshawk-

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/Fenderbird/ripper%20project/chamber.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/Fenderbird/ripper%20project/P1030318.jpg)

Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: Highlander on January 14, 2010, 06:09:17 AM
Just found this... needs quite a bit of work but there is a neck attached...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VERY-EARLY-1969-GIBSON-LES-PAUL-BASS-WITH-1-PIECE-NECK_W0QQitemZ330394576042QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar_Accessories?hash=item4ced0d24aa (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VERY-EARLY-1969-GIBSON-LES-PAUL-BASS-WITH-1-PIECE-NECK_W0QQitemZ330394576042QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar_Accessories?hash=item4ced0d24aa)
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: drbassman on January 14, 2010, 06:17:14 AM
Quote from: Kenny Five-O on January 14, 2010, 06:09:17 AM
Just found this... needs quite a bit of work but there is a neck attached...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VERY-EARLY-1969-GIBSON-LES-PAUL-BASS-WITH-1-PIECE-NECK_W0QQitemZ330394576042QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar_Accessories?hash=item4ced0d24aa (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VERY-EARLY-1969-GIBSON-LES-PAUL-BASS-WITH-1-PIECE-NECK_W0QQitemZ330394576042QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar_Accessories?hash=item4ced0d24aa)

Oh my,  :o  I didn't see that one.  Let's just say I'm gonna skip the body we've been talking about and watch this one closely.  I probably will bid on it................wait, it's in the UK?  Crap!  Nope, it's in Tulsa. That's better.  Boy, you really confused me KennY!
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: sniper on January 14, 2010, 06:29:11 AM
well Bill, you have done more with less!
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: Highlander on January 14, 2010, 06:47:59 AM
Glad to be of service... I'm still watching that body but if I bid I'm not going to go far if she goes for a run...
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: drbassman on January 14, 2010, 07:39:02 AM
Quote from: old puppy on January 14, 2010, 06:29:11 AM
well Bill, you have done more with less!

I was thinking of a mahogany veneer top to cover the routs, once repaired.  Maybe even chamber the body and put a cap on the back.   Lot's of possibilities!
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: sniper on January 14, 2010, 10:46:42 AM
niceeeeeeeee thoughts.

if i had your talent/abilities with wood, a really nice flamed, bookmatched Maple cap would look super.

vintageguitarman has some flamed stuff that i swear the flames are about 1/4" or more wide. and don't let him talk you into anything else, unless it is his birdseye/butcherblock stock, he has the good stuff aging! (he cuts his own lumber). check out his website and look at the "notacaster" he made. it is the tele look alike with the big head shaped like a "B". tell him i sent you and to give you a "Bill" discount.
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: Dave W on January 14, 2010, 10:54:43 AM
Quote from: drbassman on January 14, 2010, 06:17:14 AM
Oh my,  :o  I didn't see that one.  Let's just say I'm gonna skip the body we've been talking about and watch this one closely.  I probably will bid on it................wait, it's in the UK?  Crap!  Nope, it's in Tulsa. That's better.  Boy, you really confused me KennY!

It's on US eBay too: http://cgi.ebay.com/VERY-EARLY-1969-GIBSON-LES-PAUL-BASS-WITH-1-PIECE-NECK_W0QQitemZ330394576042QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar_Accessories?hash=item4ced0d24aa
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: drbassman on January 14, 2010, 01:02:43 PM
Quote from: Dave W on January 14, 2010, 10:54:43 AM
It's on US eBay too: http://cgi.ebay.com/VERY-EARLY-1969-GIBSON-LES-PAUL-BASS-WITH-1-PIECE-NECK_W0QQitemZ330394576042QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar_Accessories?hash=item4ced0d24aa

Yep, I did find it!  I'm gassing for this one...............
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: tore00 on January 14, 2010, 02:34:25 PM
By the way, the same vendor is selling the Les Paul bridge mute.

http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110480110764&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

I am looking for a mute for my Eb-0, merely cosmetics, since I never use. Do you know if this will fit my EB-0? I asked the distance between screw holes and the reply was 70 mm (2'' 13/16) and this sounds very strange to me since my bass has 59 mm (2" 6/16) distance. Actually, for the mute that I have on my EB-2, 70 mm is the distance between the mute bar holding pins (see attached picture).
Can anybody confim if I can fit this in my EB-0?
Any help is appreciated
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: Dave W on January 14, 2010, 05:58:43 PM
Uwe will probably know, but it will have to wait until he gets back home.
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: drbassman on January 17, 2010, 02:22:23 PM
OK guys, I'm not going after this one after all.  The wife says I'm spening too much on bass stuff (and guitars!), so I'm gonna lay low for a bit and let her forget about that issue!!!  Guess I'll have to be happen with all of my other unfinished projects!
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: Highlander on January 18, 2010, 11:14:19 AM
Went for $456, and the body went for $202 (not to me)...

Here's a mess, but mostly there... $699

http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-Gibson-Les-Paul-Bass-Guitar-Recording-Triumph_W0QQitemZ330396561734QQcategoryZ64402QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%252BDDSIC%26otn%3D10%26ps%3D63 (http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-Gibson-Les-Paul-Bass-Guitar-Recording-Triumph_W0QQitemZ330396561734QQcategoryZ64402QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%252BDDSIC%26otn%3D10%26ps%3D63)
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: Bionic-Joe on January 18, 2010, 11:18:48 AM
Mr. Barkless Dog, give me a ring sometime. I live in Brookfield, Il. I have some Ideas for custom Thunderbird 8 and 12 string basses. Maybe we could conspire together? Joe-773-259-6926
Title: Re: nice body (fanning the fumes towards gary, bill and ken)
Post by: uwe on January 19, 2010, 12:35:34 PM
Quote from: tore00 on January 14, 2010, 02:34:25 PM
By the way, the same vendor is selling the Les Paul bridge mute.

http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110480110764&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

I am looking for a mute for my Eb-0, merely cosmetics, since I never use. Do you know if this will fit my EB-0? I asked the distance between screw holes and the reply was 70 mm (2'' 13/16) and this sounds very strange to me since my bass has 59 mm (2" 6/16) distance. Actually, for the mute that I have on my EB-2, 70 mm is the distance between the mute bar holding pins (see attached picture).
Can anybody confim if I can fit this in my EB-0?
Any help is appreciated

Of course, being Italian, the seller mismeasured, but all in good faith! The approx 59 mm measurement screw to screw is the only one I'm aware of (70mm being, like you said, the distance between the holding pins). This fits your EB-0 if it has the 67-73 two point bridge with individual saddles (not the earlier bar bridge). But you don't have to buy one. Send me your address and I'll send you one of mine. I always take mine off and have a few lying around.

Uwe