Joey hasn't been well for a while, but not letting him play at the Grammys was a cheap shot - if they had concerns of him holding up, they could have taken a second drummer along for those two songs and everyone would have understood (Mick Fleetwood has had a second drummer on stage for years, just behind him). Leaving Joey out looks horrible. Aerosmith is probably the only band of their early 70ies generation with the original line up still completely intact, that is something to cherish.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/23/entertainment/drummer-joey-kramer-aerosmith-court-case/index.html
Very sad behaviour from both sides.
Aerosmith have been a business driven company for quite a while.
What was the last half decent album they put out? Can't remember.
Get a Grip?
I heard that Mr. Kramer may have been through some rehab recently. Part of what might be happening is the band wants him to commit more fully to sobriety before letting him back in the fold. Just something they were talking about on morning radio around here. Somebody also theorized it could be a ploy to drum up more interest in the band for their next tour. What a crazy and amazing situation. Joey is Cryin' cause he doesn't want to miss a thing but if he thinks the band will let him back he better dream on. ;D
But that's only recently! ;)
Aerosmith had great singles and songs, but they were never the most consistent album makers - some bands just aren't (the Rolling Stones for instance - they only have one front to back truly great album and that is Sticky Fingers). Of the first phase, I'm torn between Toys in the Attic and Rocks, by the time they had outside writers I think Pump was the jewel in their crown, there is a lot of catchy songwriting on that one even if phoned in. Funnily enough, I never thought Rock in a Hard Place - with both original guitarists gone - a bad album or even Night in the Ruts with Whitford remaining, but Joe Perry AWOL after one of his usual ego flare-ups.
Just Push Play is their most horrible one by a stretch.
Aerosmith's last album was the 2012 "Music From Another Dimension!" It got mixed reviews. I think some of the band members liked it and others said they didn't know if they ever wanted to do another album again. I don't remember who said what now, but I'm pretty sure Tom Hamilton was enthusiastic about the album.
His songs were among the best, but mostly only available on the extended version. It was an album conceived by a committee. Not awful, just underwhelming.
The deluxe version definitely had some of the best songs. By the time I had finished listening to it, I was glad I got that version. I think that version was more for the hardcore fans. I was buying the CD for a friend who fell into that category and, of course, decided to buy one for myself, too.
Quote from: Basvarken on January 24, 2020, 06:31:36 AMWhat was the last half decent album they put out? Can't remember.
Draw the Line
No love here for Done With The Mirrors? :mrgreen:
Quote from: uwe on January 24, 2020, 01:23:06 PM
No love here for Done With The Mirrors? :mrgreen:
I got it at a discount at a drugstore. So it was actually worth it. But when I told my friend who is such a big Aerosmith fan, she let it be known that the album was one of their worst. However, I think there are some fans out there who like it.
Quote from: 4stringer77 on January 24, 2020, 07:47:03 AM
What a crazy and amazing situation. Joey is Cryin' cause he doesn't want to miss a thing but if he thinks the band will let him get back in the saddle he better dream on. ;D
Just filled in the missing words for you. :P
Quote from: doombass on January 24, 2020, 03:10:17 PM
Just filled in the missing words for you. :P
Thanks, I should have thought of that.
According to this article, "Music From Another Dimension!" was released by Columbia when it was going through leadership changes, but was not, of course, a commercial success.
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/aerosmith-to-celebrate-50th-anniversary-with-fenway-park-concert/
Quote from: Basvarken on January 24, 2020, 06:31:36 AM
Very sad behaviour from both sides.
Aerosmith have been a business driven company for quite a while.
What was the last half decent album they put out? Can't remember.
Rocks..........All downhill after that, even if there were some hit singles sprinkled in. Joe Perry is pretty hot though.
Aerosmith's newest member
https://youtu.be/vdnlptVP2B8
Quote from: TBird1958 on January 27, 2020, 12:08:40 PM... Joe Perry is pretty hot though.
Point of clarification, Ma'am... the guitarist or the bod...? :mrgreen:
Quote from: Highlander on January 28, 2020, 11:51:39 AM
Point of clarification, Ma'am... the guitarist or the bod...? :mrgreen:
Both, at least when he was a bit younger I thought he was a good looking guy. As a guitarist he's interesting, def no soulless wanker.
Pah, Brad Whitford has loads more taste in his playing! Perry is always first and foremost concerned about looking good when playing a solo. How can you be so shallow, Mark? :gay:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATLlFktYh-0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXczEYkhPDg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0f_F9ZeW5k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbWLHnCI4cg
Whitford is the better guitarist. I wouldn't dare say that in front of my friend who is such an Aerosmith fan. In fact, what I just said--I didn't say that.
I do think Perry was a pretty inventive lead player. Listening to some his solos makes me go "who does that?". But I do agree that Whitford is fantastic. The one time I saw Aerosmith was in '78 for the Draw the Line tour at the Aragon Ballroom in Chicago. Perry and Tyler were so f'ing wasted, even an 8th grader like me noticed. I could go into detail, but for this convo, I'll just say that Whitford held the whole show together.