The Blue Sparkle Hamer KILLS!!! I Loved that bass...But I got Old Red back so I didn't need her any more.. The Hamer is Better than the Warmoth, but the Warmoth was Killer for sure. And al of my bass build usually had Orvilles in them..that was when I had a steady flow of cash coming in. Been broke for a few months...missed a few opportunities to buy parts...figure maybe in a couple of years I can get back on my feel and maybe eventually start playing agin and start building basses again...but it will be a while...