The Last Bass Outpost
Main Forums => The Bass Zone => Topic started by: Dave W on May 21, 2020, 08:19:59 PM
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https://youtu.be/_D54jqRnuKQ
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I came really close to getting one of those a few days ago. But as I mentioned in another post, I decided to get a second Gibson LP Jr. Tribute DC bass instead. But the price drop at Music 123 is tempting on the Guild. They have it for $1025 in natural. Emerald green is still at the regular price. I still hope to have a Guild some day. BTW, that's an interesting video. Right up my alley.
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"I can make this bass sound like a 60s Starfire" proceeds to play something originally done on an EB-2 :P
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"I can make this bass sound like a 60s Starfire" proceeds to play something originally done on an EB-2 :P
;D ;D
Where are those Guild reissues made? I see them all the time on eBay. Really cool basses.
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"I can make this bass sound like a 60s Starfire" proceeds to play something originally done on an EB-2 :P
Speaking of an EB-2, that was really my first choice in what I wanted to buy. But the cheapest thing I could find was one for $1600 that had had major repairs.
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"I can make this bass sound like a 60s Starfire" proceeds to play something originally done on an EB-2 :P
Yes that got my brain spinning a bit, "Hmm, wait a minute, that's Animals, hmmm" ;D But OTOH the sound is not far off from an EB-2/Rivoli with the Baritone switch engaged.
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That could have very well been the same bass on some songs by the Animals and the Jimi Hendrix Experience. Because on many of the songs Noel Redding was playing Chas Chandler's EB-2 on the "Are You Experienced" album. It wasn't until mid-February 1967 that the Jazz bass started being used on a few songs such as "Manic Depression" and a couple of others. In another piece of trivia, I once read that Chas Chandler bought an EB-1 shortly before he died. It's a shame he didn't have much of a chance to play it.
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All these posts and no one yet has said anything about the flats vs. rounds comparison. I'm afraid I don't have much to add, though. I prefer playing rounds, but admit that flats can sound pretty good.
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All these posts and no one yet has said anything about the flats vs. rounds comparison. I'm afraid I don't have much to add, though. I prefer playing rounds, but admit that flats can sound pretty good.
I'll say it: sounds fantastic with flats and a pick. Nothing wrong with the other tones, though.
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Where are those Guild reissues made? I see them all the time on eBay. Really cool basses.
They're made in Korea.
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If you listen to a lot of 70ies recordings closely, you'll be surprised to hear how much flatwound picking was going on, in heavier music too. Flats can really cut through without sonically stepping on other people's toes.
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I think flats accentuate the hollowbody sound.
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I've never heard a hollow body bass with rounds that I liked. Hollow bodies need flats to bring out their special character. And not "bright flats", they need dead thumpy flats. At one point a luthier wanted to assess the bridge height on one of my Höfners and strung it with rounds. Oh, the horror.
And I'm certainly not a flatwound purist - all my solid bodies (except one) wear DR rounds.
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I've never heard a hollow body bass with rounds that I liked. Hollow bodies need flats to bring out their special character. And not "bright flats", they need dead thumpy flats. At one point a luthier wanted to assess the bridge height on one of my Höfners and strung it with rounds. Oh, the horror.
And I'm certainly not a flatwound purist - all my solid bodies (except one) wear DR rounds.
Don't forget tapewounds. A lot of 60s hollow or semihollow players used them.
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Tapewounds work very well on my Ibanez AGB-200 semi-hollow...aside from that' I'm a flats guy.
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I love the nylon tapewounds on my Höfner. Pyramids ones, which don't feel sticky. I don't like the sticky Rotos that much.
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The Memphis ES Les Paul Bass came from the factory with flat wounds. The only new bass I’ve bought that was shipped with them.
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My Vox Spyder came with tapewounds. It was made in '68 and I bought it new in '69. It was an Eko-made bass and Eko sold strings under their own name so I'd guess that was the brand. I never changed them the whole time I owned the bass.
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I’m not sure if the Tape Wounds are any good anymore, but here is a batch of never used Gibson bass strings. (1) Tape Wound, (1) Flat Wound & (1) Round Wound.....
(https://i.imgur.com/G9S0vau.jpg)
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Good price for 1998! Why wouldn't the tapewounds be good? The nylon wrap shouldn't deteriorate.
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They must have sat in the store for 25 years. I offered them $10 a pack & they were happy to let them go..... They also had NOS Ripper/Grabber cases in stock at the time.
Nylon coating still looks as new!
(https://i.imgur.com/WUHR0uM.jpg)
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As I suspected!
I'm surprised Groth had anything around that long. Old stock was the province of Torp's in St.Paul and Suneson's on E. Lake Street.
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Tapewounds often necessitate widening the nut slots, something I don't want to perform on a vintage bass.
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Tapewounds often necessitate widening the nut slots, something I don't want to perform on a vintage bass.
I've never had to widen a nut slot for tapewounds, the nylon wrap has compressed enough without binding in the slot.
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D'addario's and GHS are normal gauges
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The NOS Gibson strings seem to be extra light gauge. .091 E string......
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The NOS Gibson strings seem to be extra light gauge. .091 E string......
You mentioned that these were years old when you bought them. Back in the 70s, they were probably the only flatwound set Gibson offered.
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I have been very happy with TI Jazz Flats and LaBella Low Tension Flats (little more tension than TI's but less than most others)
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For the most part I use TI Jazz Flats or LaBella Low tension flats( little higher tension than the TI’s)
For rounds I like DR Silver Stars or Black Beauties ( both are thin coated) for less Finger to string noise . If you use a coated string I recommend top loading only as the feed thru the body string ferrules are not typically grounded and might pick up noise
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I've a 1967 Guild Starfire and I stringed initially with Thomastick flats. No sustain, maybe because of the high magnetic field of the bisonic pickup. I tried to lower the poles, but no luck. I changed to roundwound and she plays beautiful. Deep, resonant, a great bass. I presented her in this post
http://bassoutpost.com/index.php?topic=10154.15
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Yep, it is amazing how a string works well on one bass or guitar and not another mostly due to pickup characteristics!
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Yep, it is amazing how a string works well on one bass or guitar and not another mostly due to pickup characteristics!
Or scale length. I've had strings that sound good on short scale but not on long, and vice versa.
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Longtime flatwound aficianado . My first ones were Fender 9050's on Pbasses , and then I discovered TI Jazz Flats and got hooked . They became my string . Spirocores on my upright too .
I also tried GHS and LaBellas , and came to favour LaBellas on shortscales . It's funny though , I keep fresh Slinkys on my Stingray for that roink they do , and I still have the factory rounds on my Longhorn . It was made in the Korean Shinko factory in 98 or so and believe me , those strings possess one ungodly old school thump . I also have a Dolphin nose with flats but it doesn't come close for that old school thump .
I have a set of LaBella Dano flats ready in case I ever lose a winding or break a string . It will break my heart when one eventually goes ...