I have it on my watch list. What do you figure is a good price for a 20/20?
I know many dislike the shape but I think they look awesome. Always have (well since the 1987 catalog anyway).
Perhaps you need a third one? ;D
Woah! It went for $2025! :oWhoa, indeed.
Somebody really wanted that. More likely, two people did and got in a bidding war.
As paddles go, it also seems to be the best balancing one.
Yours will be on exhibit here someday
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with a commemorative plaque for the "Grog Foundation", naw, make that "Grog Trust" and an audio installation of your favorite licks!
cough*shill*cough
Who knows... but sure looks like it from user a***b with their 31 feedbacks. Won't be surprised if it pops up again.
Another bidder was right up there with 2K in the last few hours, though! Yeaowch :o
Would an exhibit with two 20/20's be a 40/40?
High praise indeed. ???
This $2,000 + purchase had..... " the fold-out contraption so that it doesn't slip off your leg when played seated" thingy missing............. and the seller either didn't know it was missing or chose not to disclose it.......... It might have gone for more had it been complete.......... :-\
Someone told me there is/was one for sale in Belgium for around 900 euros. Will try to find a link.I put a bid on it. The seller lowered his price somewhat. Still in doubt wether I should drive the Antwerp to go and pick it up…
Mine was from Italy - certainly an international bass. I'll never forget how the Italian seller wrote to me that "to protect your bass, Uwe, I have especially taken the neck off and send it seperately". And there the bass came - in two packages. :mrgreen: Italians being Italians, I was of course worried that not all the bolt-on screws would be there ..., but, va bene, they were. My very Germanic preconceptions proved unfounded. :-[ He had even included the paddle bag and all the necessary tools for truss rod and nut height adjustment. ;)
In a land mostly under sea level, one needs a paddle.
Congrats, Rob, paddlephiles (careful pronounciation of the word recommended!) of the world unite. I'd have never thought that this bass would one day reach cultish popularity here - of all places!
Took it to rehearsal last night.
It is a brutal sounding bass. Lots of punch. Tight sound.
The E string is a bit overbearing. And the G string is a bit weak.
Took it to rehearsal last night.
It is a brutal sounding bass. Lots of punch. Tight sound.
The E string is a bit overbearing. And the G string is a bit weak.
But maybe I can fix that by tilting the pickups a bit?
What are your ideas on that Grog and/or Uwe?
Took it to rehearsal last night.
It is a brutal sounding bass. Lots of punch. Tight sound.
The E string is a bit overbearing. And the G string is a bit weak.
But maybe I can fix that by tilting the pickups a bit?
What are your ideas on that Grog and/or Uwe?
I just remember liking the baseball bat neck & the balance. I play my beater Hobbit 95% of the time............Same here. ;)
Had that issue too, has to do with the electronics. That bass- and treble-heavy active circuit sound without any real mids makes a G string sound anorectic quickly. Tilting helps, you can actually get the G string to sound balanced, even stand out a little (I like for whatever reason the E and G on my basses slightly louder than the A and D). Those mid-oriented Ernie Ball Cobalt strings help too.
These pickups are unique...........
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Yeah, and they make you look like a mean MF. :toast:
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Looks good on ya Rob! ;D
Or maybe Rob is just a midget, I really dunno. :mrgreen:
What's the string spread at the bridge on these? The typical 19mm or narrower?
Are you working on a long term ZZ Top trib with that beard, Rob...?
Hmm... maybe a Clutch trib...?
It's a Schaller bridge with roller saddles. I have them set at 18 mm.
Isn't your new avatar/handle taking things a bit far, Ken, no one is gonna bring up that ole Hellcat incident again here. Or the Ripper blindness. I hate it when small human failings are dug up ...
Isn't your new avatar/handle taking things a bit far, Ken, no one is gonna bring up that ole Hellcat incident again here. Or the Ripper blindness. I hate it when small human failings are dug up ...
http://www.myvideo.de/watch/7759589/Status_Quo_Again_And_Again
The 20/20 resemblance is passing and mostly fin-induced, but those Riverheads are way too close for comfort. Someone was very "inspired" here. Reminds me of those guys of the long defunct South Californian Gould bass boutique (not the other, still active Gould bass maker) who always claimed their basses had "nothing to do with the Kubicki design". Yeah, my ass, the Gould Rebel Bass is the green one om the left in the pic below, the Kubicki Factor is the black one on the right. Fine basses by the way, more organic sounding than the Kubickis via their Bartolinis.
[Cleese] You started it ... you invaded Nashville ... [/Cleese] :mrgreen:
Gibson, Gibson, über alles ...
Russia's importance and its huge sacrifices in beating down Nazism are often conveniently overlooked (which hurts Russian self-esteem and is historically incorrect). That is why I prefer Uncle Joe to Adolf. A lot.
Have always held that: The US' engagement against Nazi Germany was a predominantly noble cause; the Pacific War one about markets, spheres of influence and the prevention of an empire of a rusty colonial power (the UK) disintegrating too quickly with the spoils falling to a highly aggressive Asian military dictatorship (Japan) rather than to the new heir apparent/rising western hegemonilal power (the US). That doesn't change the fact that the Tenno's men committed gross crimes almost everywhere or take away anything from the valor of the US Navy men in the Pacific.
Have always held that: The US' engagement against Nazi Germany was a predominantly noble cause; the Pacific War one about markets, spheres of influence and the prevention of an empire of a rusty colonial power (the UK) disintegrating too quickly with the spoils falling to a highly aggressive Asian military dictatorship (Japan) rather than to the new heir apparent/rising western hegemonial power (the US). That doesn't change the fact that the Tenno's men committed gross crimes almost everywhere or take away anything from the valor of the US Navy men in the Pacific.
I can't remember exactly when in '41 it occurred (only a few months iirc), but according to Japanese historians (again, iirc, not gone down this research path for a while) it was the American Government declining to allow the Japanese access to fuel that was the primary catalyst, along with supplying armament to a force they had been actively fighting/annexing for about a decade.
It was inevitable that it was going to happen and I hate to say that they (the US Gov) asked for it but any historian worth his salt would say just the same thing, and the We The People paid the price, as they always do...
I know that this is an extremely sensitive subject to the American people but, it's like my dad's war, it was all about the oil and not about the Burmese people... they were incidental...
Japan had been in China and Korea for a decade in '41 and the old expression applies: my enemy's friends...
Probably best discussed elsewhere...
As well as the U.S. Army men in the Pacific (such as my father.) Air Force and Marines, too, of course.
I had no intention of excluding anyone!!! But weren't the Marines part of the Navy and the pilots in the Pacific mostly Navy Airforce as opposed to USA(rmy)AF? Whatever, I herewith include all other parts of the US Armed Forces too. Historical question: Did the US Army even take part in the island hopping or was that all Marines?
True, Japan had been in China and Korea for quite a few years prior to 1941. Their troops' behavior explains why neither China nor Korea are the world's largest fans of Japan. How many Chinese did the Japanese kill? Several hundred thousand, wasn't it? Didn't they turn many, many thousands of women into sex slaves for the Japanese army's entertainment? What do Japanese historians say about that?Korea was officially "annexed" in 1910 and there was an orchestrated occupation of Manchuria in 1931.
Sheese, I wasn't reding this thread because we were discussing boat paddles.........WTF happened! :o
You can even bring the cynical argument that the nucear bombs over Japan killed mostly women and children and old men which were more dispensable for rebuilding Japan than the Japanese soldiers saved by early capitulation and not dying in the field. Horrible, even vile thought, but if bringing a defeated country "up to speed" quickly to have a counterpoint to Red China is your top priority ...
Dunno, I innocently wanted to develop the thread on to slide bass playing, but Dave said better not be led astairway or I'll zep you and you'll be trampled underfoot! :-\
It was dy'er, mak'er for me, so we had to change subject.
Does anybody remember laughter?
Like they said after Japan's enormous economic resurgence by the 1960s - "Japan didn't lose the war, they threw it"
The inability of Japanese administrations to say a wholehearted sorry for the unspeakable (and militarily unnecessary) crimes militaristic Japan of old did confounds me. No, they don't have to apologize for Pearl Harbor, that was a military operation to surprise-deliver one crippling blow to the enemy (the best-laid plans ...), but they sure as hell could for the Rape of Nanking and Death March to name just two.
The inability of the Japanese to understand the cause and effect idea (the idea that attacking Pearl would result in the bomb being used on them) confounds me.