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Title: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: Denis on March 06, 2014, 06:29:29 PM: I realize neither of these genres are for everyone, but I've been digging around on YouTube looking for Golden Earring stuff and have run across some nifty stuff.
None of them I've heard of but some of them are pretty enjoyable.

This one from a band called Please is pretty good. Whoever is posting this stuff on YouTube takes some time about providing album information.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5mWIAQ0tUo

1. We Aim To Please - 00:00
2. No More White Horses -02:56
3. Paper Anne - 06:22
4. Seaweed -09:41
5. Break The Spell -14:55
6. Strange Ways - 18:17
7. Man With No Name -21:43
8. Watching -25:15
9. You're Still Waiting - 27:30
10.Breakthrough -29:40
11.The Story -33:08
12.Folder Man - 35:36
Music and lyrics by Peter Dunton

Please
*Peter Dunton - Drums, Vocals Except Tracks 3,4,7,12
*Bernard Jinks - Bass
*Nick Spenser - Guitars
*Jurgen Ermish - Organ
*Robin Hunt - Flute, Vocals Tracks 3,4,7,12
*Rod Harrison - Guitar On Tracks 2, 4, 7, 12
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: gweimer on March 06, 2014, 08:10:01 PM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sAG_mzp7eI
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: gweimer on March 06, 2014, 08:11:24 PM: I like these guys a lot. Newer band, and I can hear the hints of early Genesis and Peter Gabriel in there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ_PMvjmC6M
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: gweimer on March 06, 2014, 08:14:59 PM: Chicago's own Trillion. I went to high school with the drummer, and keyboardist Pat Leonard was the musical director for Madonna when she hit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJUFkidSOk8
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: saltymonkey on March 06, 2014, 08:42:27 PM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGNVzLNpxD8

Parson Sound. Swedish Psyche from 67-68. One of my favorite discoveries in a record store a few years ago. It's firmly on the Phsychedlic side of those two genres. It's out there but way way ahead of it's time.
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: Highlander on March 07, 2014, 01:22:08 PM: www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8sLcvWG1M4
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: Pekka on March 07, 2014, 02:18:57 PM: Field Music is my fav current band that could be labelled as prog (they probably don't like the label but find me an artist who does like any label!). I can hear 10CC, Genesis, Yes, XTC and Kate Bush in their music and probably the best album they have made was Peter Brewis' soloproject "The Week That Was" that was released in 2008.
http://youtu.be/EyNXeXqsNbU

http://youtu.be/b8GAGyDisJ8
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: 4stringer77 on March 07, 2014, 02:31:25 PM: Lots of things you could post here, Chambers bros. (time has come today), Pink Floyd, Jefferson Airplane and so on, but this is still one of my favorite all time trippy albums.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoaxtJ0DYkU
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: gweimer on March 07, 2014, 06:38:52 PM: You guys know by now that I can't let this go without some Deerhoof...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6dOBAteBZQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdUQKUiQ3pw
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: saltymonkey on March 07, 2014, 06:48:45 PM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hsp-C6mQGo&list=FLqRZ268Ck3FxrpJwaPKMIoA&index=3
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: saltymonkey on March 07, 2014, 06:54:11 PM: I saw Gentle Giant a couple of times in the 70s and they were an amazing live band. They were so tight and all multi instrumentalists. Really high quality footage here from The Missing Piece tour.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMrYSTzqFI8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJV6g29SiKg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6WSLG5r-wE
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: Denis on March 07, 2014, 07:52:56 PM: Here's a good one: Christopher, from 1969.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-oNodwucn0
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: Dave W on March 07, 2014, 09:10:32 PM: You won't find me posting any prog, but here's my favorite psychedelic gem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_otNCZ5T2o
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: gweimer on March 07, 2014, 09:21:30 PM: Well as long as we're going there...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhYLz63csS0
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: gweimer on March 07, 2014, 09:25:47 PM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5ru5LO9Yfo
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: gweimer on March 07, 2014, 09:28:12 PM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtdUjm89vvk
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: Pekka on March 08, 2014, 12:54:58 AM: Quote from: saltymonkey on March 07, 2014, 06:48:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hsp-C6mQGo&list=FLqRZ268Ck3FxrpJwaPKMIoA&index=3

Brilliant! I love Canterbury prog as they call it. Hatfield & The North, National Health, Robert Wyatt, Kevin Ayers, Caravan, Soft Machine etc. Camel were at their best too when they had Richard Sinclair on bass and vocals. Andy Latimer thought about calling the band Caramel in 1978/79 when they 3 ex- Caravan alumni in the ranks.:) (Jan Schelhaas and cousins Richard and Dave Sinclair).
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: Pekka on March 08, 2014, 12:56:50 AM: Quote from: gweimer on March 06, 2014, 08:14:59 PM
Chicago's own Trillion. I went to high school with the drummer, and keyboardist Pat Leonard was the musical director for Madonna when she hit.

Pat Leonard also worked with the late great and much missed mega talent Kevin Gilbert in Toy Matinee. Kevin's posthumously released rock opera "The Shaming Of The True" is one of my favourite albums.
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: Pekka on March 08, 2014, 01:03:43 AM: Quote from: saltymonkey on March 07, 2014, 06:54:11 PM
I saw Gentle Giant a couple of times in the 70s and they were an amazing live band. They were so tight and all multi instrumentalists. Really high quality footage here from The Missing Piece tour.

Big fan here. The live footage is sometimes a bit hard to watch because of the stage antics (and sometimes shouty vocals) of Derek Shulman but my god how tight and funky John Weathers and Ray Shulman are here! The whole show is availble on DVD "GG at the GG" IIRC.
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: amptech on March 08, 2014, 04:17:37 AM: Great thread! Love that GG show, and there´s an even better one (from 1974) on youtube.
Maybe not that sharp and tight, but less ´shouting´and really full of energy...

And seeing Hawk recently with their mid 70´s era setlist, it is really mostly music from that period that
lights my fire these days..

Maybe we should throw in some fusion as well, this could be the utopia of outpost threads!
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: gweimer on March 08, 2014, 05:20:01 AM: ~ "When danger arises, up from inner space come the MIGHTY GROUNDHOGS" ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2hdLFg_Nbw
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: Barklessdog on March 08, 2014, 07:13:42 AM: Some additions

Lucky Bishops
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN_T98JXeek

Temples
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs4i41cOv0s
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: Barklessdog on March 08, 2014, 07:17:22 AM: My friend's band Schnauser

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNmK0ztoJco
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: nofi on March 08, 2014, 08:40:53 AM: check out ed king in the alarm clock. far left guitarist. i like this much better than his next band, lynyrd skynyrd. :P
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: saltymonkey on March 08, 2014, 12:58:06 PM: Quote from: Pekka on March 08, 2014, 01:03:43 AM
Big fan here. The live footage is sometimes a bit hard to watch because of the stage antics (and sometimes shouty vocals) of Derek Shulman but my god how tight and funky John Weathers and Ray Shulman are here! The whole show is availble on DVD "GG at the GG" IIRC.

Thanks. The whole show is on youtube in one video too. Great video and audio quality. I really think they were at their best during this time and tour. Watching it brought back a lot of great memories. I used an online youtube video to mp3 converter to download the audio from the whole show.
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: Pekka on March 09, 2014, 12:30:11 AM: Quote from: saltymonkey on March 08, 2014, 12:58:06 PM
Thanks. The whole show is on youtube in one video too. Great video and audio quality. I really think they were at their best during this time and tour. Watching it brought back a lot of great memories. I used an online youtube video to mp3 converter to download the audio from the whole show.

The audio was released on cd twice, first as "BBC Live In Concert" which omitted the track "Funny Ways" and then as part of "Out Of The Fire" double which had the whole concert.

"Playing The Fool" is probably the best GG album if you could have only one. Thankfully we can have them all.:) "Giant For A Day" doesn't get much playtime 'though.
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: Denis on March 10, 2014, 09:33:35 AM: Here's another I like a lot. Ford Theater's Trilogy For The Masses".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgsVBKzkeuQ
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: slinkp on March 10, 2014, 11:14:30 AM: Chrysalis was interesting. I heard about them because my dad did some string arrangements on their one and only album.
The story goes that the promotional budget was blown on gambling by their shady manager and that was the end of their recording career.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEg7g3PnTxk
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: 4stringer77 on March 10, 2014, 01:22:09 PM: Well, as long as we've got Lemmy and Ed's old psychedelic bands up here we might as well add one from the Nuge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN2VNFpiGWo
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: Highlander on March 10, 2014, 03:34:44 PM: www.youtube.com/watch?v=TokYdNmOt3s

May as well colour it up a bit...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WwjCl7ZAhw
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: gweimer on March 10, 2014, 04:34:07 PM: Oh, they did far trippier stuff than that. This also lifted part of Bartok's 2nd String Quartet, which was later referenced in "Lark's Tongue in Aspic, Pt. 2"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRKZDcn2cFU
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: Dave W on March 10, 2014, 07:34:33 PM: Always loved the bassline from "I Had Too Much To Dream Last Night"

YT video description (from 2011) says:
DEDICATED TO THE MEMORY OF THE GREAT LATE BASS PLAYER OF THE ELECTRIC PRUNES, MARK TULIN, WHO DIED FEBRUARY 26, AGED 62.

---MARK TULIN---
NOVEMBER 21, 1948
FEBRUARY 26, 2011

REST IN PEACE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrBbWXZPmMY
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: uwe on March 11, 2014, 05:02:32 AM: Does Nektar qualify?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1i24LNre4U
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: Highlander on March 12, 2014, 03:44:08 PM: Does now...
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: gweimer on March 13, 2014, 05:48:55 AM: OK...a few more came to mind.

Pavlov's Dog (Bill Bruford guested on this album)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHnSVmxt7rw

Crack the Sky
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMFBnNsbato
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: saltymonkey on March 13, 2014, 06:10:12 AM: I forgot all about Crack The Sky. They were one of my favorite bands in high school. Had to look but still have two of their albums.
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: 4stringer77 on March 13, 2014, 07:37:45 AM: This thread should be split in two. Crack the sky is about as psychedelic as this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqmTMiIMG74) band.
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: saltymonkey on March 13, 2014, 07:42:43 AM: I never considered CTS psychedelic or prog either. More of a straight up rock band.
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: Pekka on March 13, 2014, 12:37:40 PM: Prog rock isn't always psychedelic. Think about Yes, Genesis etc. Strict arrangements, tight playing, no drugs (maybe Squire and Rutherford did some). So Crack The Sky qualify too. Great band and not straight rock by any means. More like 10CC meets Queen with Randy Newman writing the lyrics.

More Richard Sinclair's vocal magic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsBWLGdDHkw
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: hieronymous on March 13, 2014, 09:20:54 PM: I should be all over this thread but have been spending less time on the internet lately. However, lately I've gotten into a more recent "prog" band, Porcupine Tree (hopefully hasn't been posted yet), and this song really hits me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTEWlSTQ1RI

Something about the atmosphere really touches me - going to try and come up with a solo 8-string bass/bass pedals/vocals arrangement - wish me luck!

And I will go back through this thread and check out what's been posted so far. I actually got kind of stuck on the Made in Japan reissue thread...
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: 4stringer77 on March 14, 2014, 07:12:31 AM: I'm hearing lots of similarities to Pink Floyd's Dogs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lgOo8yEIPs). When the guitar comes in at about 4:25 also sounds a bit like the guitar solo at the end of Sheep (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqlsVZ1zxMk).
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: uwe on March 14, 2014, 01:58:39 PM: Quote from: Pekka on March 13, 2014, 12:37:40 PM
Prog rock isn't always psychedelic. Think about Yes, Genesis etc. Strict arrangements, tight playing, no drugs (maybe Squire and Rutherford did some). So Crack The Sky qualify too. Great band and not straight rock by any means. More like 10CC meets Queen with Randy Newman writing the lyrics.

More Richard Sinclair's vocal magic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsBWLGdDHkw

I don't identify psychedelic with "no arrangement and drugged, untight playing" (btw: not all drugs do that to you, Status Quo spent the late seventies in a coke haze, but man were they tight), but more with a certain tranquil, esoteric nature of the music. As such that Camel track is psychedelic to me. As is Pink Floyd and much of the older Genesis. ELP is a prog band that is not psychedelic to me as they are all about athletic, instrumental brawn - some of which I'm sure was coke induced!
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: Highlander on March 14, 2014, 04:51:08 PM: www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9U-Rzd7Lqs
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: gweimer on March 14, 2014, 05:37:30 PM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGwPSPIhohk
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: Denis on March 14, 2014, 07:30:28 PM: That version of "Echoes" is my all time favorite.

I raise you with "Embryo". That first lick of Gilmour's gives me the shivers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZF5FFNpXms

You guys are posting some incredible stuff. Thanks for adding here!
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: gweimer on March 14, 2014, 08:53:56 PM: While the sound is pretty bad, you have to love Jamie Muir in one of the rare live gigs he did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhudDa3JAyc
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Post by: nofi on March 15, 2014, 06:57:18 AM: excellent! makes most other prog sound like windham hill out takes.
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: Pekka on March 15, 2014, 12:20:45 PM: Quote from: uwe on March 14, 2014, 01:58:39 PM
I don't identify psychedelic with "no arrangement and drugged, untight playing" (btw: not all drugs do that to you, Status Quo spent the late seventies in a coke haze, but man were they tight), but more with a certain tranquil, esoteric nature of the music. As such that Camel track is psychedelic to me. As is Pink Floyd and much of the older Genesis. ELP is a prog band that is not psychedelic to me as they are all about athletic, instrumental brawn - some of which I'm sure was coke induced!

My post wasn't that serious, I was just trying to say that there's room for Crack The Sky here too. The drug thing was a joke too.
ELP and coke definitely match, I think Keith was very honest about it in his book too.:)

English psychedelia was very tightly arranged at times, like the first Family album for example.

What drugs this band used I'm sure most of us don't want to know. Most likely they don't use any.:) The mighty Magma:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeCX3HxP86M

Saw them in Finland in 2004. Played the then released "K.A" album and "Mekanik Destrüktiw Kommandoh".
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: Pekka on March 15, 2014, 12:25:09 PM: Quote from: gweimer on March 14, 2014, 08:53:56 PM
While the sound is pretty bad, you have to love Jamie Muir in one of the rare live gigs he did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhudDa3JAyc

Do you have the "Larks'" box? It has the whole German TV gig from Bremen on DVD and Blu-Ray and many other live recordings of variable quality featuring the 5 man line-up.
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Post by: saltymonkey on March 15, 2014, 12:35:01 PM: The Factory, English 60's Psyche. This thread's making me scour my record collection then see if the stuff is available on youtube. The Factory was pretty great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aysz7yJX5lE&list=PLRDO1HwoVumUn7Njf_Lp_4ZNMr42OBPPs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDGj29bzKPQ&list=PLRDO1HwoVumUn7Njf_Lp_4ZNMr42OBPPs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rhOu62dXqw&list=PLRDO1HwoVumUn7Njf_Lp_4ZNMr42OBPPs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNUkzuVJPio&list=PLRDO1HwoVumUn7Njf_Lp_4ZNMr42OBPPs
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: Denis on March 27, 2014, 06:55:20 PM: Digging this one lately: The Black Cat Bones!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqCTOzbDxJM
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: chromium on March 28, 2014, 01:01:40 AM: Happy the Man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwU7X4vyhCE

If
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o301OyzvlPk

Shadowfax
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPMS3l63QJA
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: nofi on March 28, 2014, 09:02:42 AM: too bad there seems to be a formula for writing a prog 'tune'. it really hasn't changed in decades.
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: gearHed289 on March 28, 2014, 10:03:52 AM: Quote from: nofi on March 28, 2014, 09:02:42 AM
too bad there seems to be a formula for writing a prog 'tune'. it really hasn't changed in decades.

How is that different from any other kind of rock?
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: uwe on March 28, 2014, 12:06:07 PM: Quote from: nofi on March 28, 2014, 09:02:42 AM
too bad there seems to be a formula for writing a prog 'tune'. it really hasn't changed in decades.

Which is why Genesis sounded like Jethro Tull sounded like ELP sounded like Yes sounded like Pink Floyd? :rolleyes: Formula or not, the major league of the Prog bands were immediately identifiable.
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: uwe on March 28, 2014, 12:11:32 PM: Quote from: gearHed289 on March 28, 2014, 10:03:52 AM
How is that different from any other kind of rock?

Well, not all forms of music can be as pattern-defying as the Blues, can they? :-X
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: Highlander on March 28, 2014, 05:50:30 PM: Denis... do some research on that Black Cat Bones... I used to have that LP... the original, now deceased guitarist was replaced by another now deceased player, both of which went on to significantly better gigs... ;)
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: gweimer on March 28, 2014, 05:55:38 PM: Quote from: CAR-54 on March 28, 2014, 05:50:30 PM
Denis... do some research on that Black Cat Bones... I used to have that LP... the original, now deceased guitarist was replaced by another now deceased player, both of which went on to significantly better gigs... ;)

Interesting! I'm surprised I never heard of these guys before. That was the era when I was buying all sorts of records out of curiosity. The drummer didn't do so bad after this band, either.
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: Highlander on March 28, 2014, 06:02:40 PM: Followed his buddy, and then another buddy...
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: LoEndMaestro on March 31, 2014, 06:33:44 AM: Quote from: gweimer on March 06, 2014, 08:10:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sAG_mzp7eI

Just bought this! That's just my game....

Thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: 4stringer77 on March 31, 2014, 07:40:17 AM: Here's a lost classic from my friend's Dad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQp1c64vYH0
Here's what Ed is doing these days.
http://edwardesko.com/
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: maxschrek on March 31, 2014, 12:09:21 PM: http://youtu.be/Mj7LlAKHsew
Title: Re: Psychedelic and prog rock
Post by: Pekka on March 31, 2014, 12:20:36 PM: Quote from: chromium on March 28, 2014, 01:01:40 AM
Happy the Man

Great band, Kit Watkins has one of my fav Mini-Moog tones. "While Chrome Yellow Shine" is my fav track and "Crafty Hands" my fav album from them.

I'd put this into the symphonic prog/fusion category (see also David Sancious who happens to play the Moog on it too). Walden is an amazing drummer, my fav from the seventies US fusion monsters alongside Tony Smith (Jan Hammer, John McLaughlin, Lou Reed).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtK_lfgKvh4