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Title: Incomming Hiwatt 4x12!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: godofthunder on October 15, 2010, 06:24:48 AM
 Mine  ;D  I just made a deal for this with a gent named Noel from Syracuse. A perfect match for my Hiwatt rig ! Very happy it has been my lifes dream to have a full Hiwatt rig ! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/P1010695.jpg)
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Post by: birdie on October 15, 2010, 06:34:37 AM
Super! Those things sound GREAT! :mrgreen:
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Post by: lowend1 on October 15, 2010, 10:14:29 PM
Nice find Scott - is that an SE4123?
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Post by: godofthunder on October 16, 2010, 06:23:52 AM
Yep SE4123 
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Post by: Highlander on October 16, 2010, 09:10:04 AM
Distinct degree of envy emanating from the shed...

Did you ever get those plans off Baz for the 2x15...?
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Post by: lowend1 on October 16, 2010, 07:00:51 PM
I recently picked up a later Hiwatt 4x12 - one of the front-loaders without any porting. Sounds pretty good with bass through an old Orange 120, but I haven't hit it real hard yet.
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Post by: Bionic-Joe on October 17, 2010, 05:25:13 AM
Ya mean like this???
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Post by: Bionic-Joe on October 17, 2010, 05:26:50 AM
Here's a better shot. Pure death. Jealous, Kenny???? Well...I'm a Shark Jumper, right?  So we have to have the most power!!!!!!!!
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Post by: birdie on October 17, 2010, 08:54:07 AM
Baz "Da Shark" Cooper!! :mrgreen:
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Post by: Bionic-Joe on October 17, 2010, 08:57:59 AM
I like it. I think I'll change my name to Tiger Shark Cooper thanks to Kenny's 51st state!! Since he's the 51st State, Maybe I should call him Rico??
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Post by: Garrett on October 17, 2010, 09:11:18 AM
(http://bassoutpost.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4610.0;attach=1066;image)

Nice!
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Post by: Bionic-Joe on October 17, 2010, 09:27:11 AM
Thank you!!!
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Post by: Highlander on October 17, 2010, 01:27:46 PM
Rico's 51st State... has a kind of distinctive ring to it...

¿Hay ardillas en Costa Rico...? ;D

If the name for me is popular with the crew I'll happily change it... If I've offended you Baz, it certainly was not meant, so call me what you wish; it won't offend me... try using "Gringo-Loco" if you wish, or "Take-Two and call me in the morning..."

A lot of people here believe the UK was the 49th from '41 thru '59 - since then we've been the 51st... hence my present name, which is also my age... presently works for me... it is scheduled to change again in 2011

Very nice rig, imo - no envy... I just couldn't afford the chiropractor bills... ;)
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Post by: Hornisse on October 17, 2010, 02:52:20 PM
Rico's 51st State
Very nice rig, imo - no envy... I just couldn't afford the chiropractor bills... ;)

Same here!  If I had to carry that every week to a gig I'd be in a hospital bed by now.  I remember back in the olden days I could fit my Sunn 215 cabinet in the back seat of my Chevy Vega! (it was a challenge to say the least!)

And cool score on that cab GOT.
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Post by: nofi on October 17, 2010, 04:41:50 PM
ha, another proud vega owner! i took the passenger seat out of mine so i could haul my sound city stack around. my amp still managed to crack the windshield from the inside. :P

i also managed to put my svt cab in the back seat of my parents 2 door, 1969 ford torino. once was quite enough.
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Post by: lowend1 on October 17, 2010, 05:33:02 PM
Ya mean like this???

Hard to tell. The bottom box has the smaller nameplate like mine, but my grill frame is more or less flush with the front of the cab. The grillcloth on mine is black, as well. Did your come with the salt-n-pepper cloth?
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Post by: Pilgrim on October 17, 2010, 05:46:26 PM
Very nice rig, imo - no envy... I just couldn't afford the chiropractor bills... ;)

Me, too!  I love the look but love my lightweight Genz-Benz gear more.
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Post by: Bionic-Joe on October 17, 2010, 06:06:08 PM
Kenny, you crack me up!!!! You and Scott inspired me to get a Hiwatt!!!  As far as gigs...I would only use a 1/2 stack unless it was a big Big place. Did Hiwatt ever make any small portable rigs??? I wish!!! ha!
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Post by: Bionic-Joe on October 17, 2010, 06:07:55 PM
Thanks for the compliments, Fellas! I really appreciate it. Now..it seems I've stepped it up a notch. When people hear I play through a Hiwatt....they stop and listen...like that old EF Hutton commercial. Crazy. But it's all about the tone and nothing else.
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Post by: Hornisse on October 17, 2010, 06:19:07 PM
I love the sound of a Hiwatt stack!  If I had roadies I'd have one for sure. (well, if I had a few extra $$ too!)
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Post by: Bionic-Joe on October 17, 2010, 08:13:45 PM
It has taken me YEARS to work up to getting this stuff. I learned a long time ago from my first drummer....don't be afraid to spend money or gear. It's just acquiring it that's the hard part!!!
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Post by: godofthunder on October 18, 2010, 05:44:20 AM
I started on this road way back in '76 or so I bought a new (it had been sitting at the store for a few years) Hiwatt 2150 Great sounding cab. The problem was being stuck in upstate NY Hiwatt gear was tough to come by and also very expensive, the 2150 cost me $350.00 (dealer cost) way back then ! For a lack of anything better to buy I started buying Marshall stuff Which served me well for many years. I sold my Hiwatt 2150 in '89 and have regretted it ever since. About five years ago i bought my Hiwatt Bass 100, not a true Hiwatt but it was a start. The I lucked out and got my DR201 from SLADE's back line about two years ago. This year I was able to secure a well worn but great sounding 2150 from birdie(Leslie) and now finally a SE4123 from this guy down the Thruway. At 51 I ain't getting any younger and I figure it is about time I got exactly what I want !
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Post by: Highlander on October 18, 2010, 03:01:45 PM
... and I ain't paying for your chiro' bills either...! ;)
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Post by: godofthunder on October 21, 2010, 12:45:25 PM
 It's here !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The wall of sound Mk? I have 4 12" Celestions I am going to load it with for the weekend. Better pictures and gig report 2 follow :) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/HiwattSE4123home002.jpg)
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Post by: Highlander on October 21, 2010, 12:48:07 PM
I deinitevely do not envy you your back with those... ;D
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Post by: godofthunder on October 21, 2010, 12:59:00 PM
It's a cinch really all leverage, and a dolly  ;D
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Post by: Highlander on October 21, 2010, 01:02:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmfeKUNDDYs

Oops... wrong Dolly... ;)

I have industrial grade wheels on my Marshall, but that still don't help with stairs... :o
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Post by: Bionic-Joe on October 21, 2010, 02:01:05 PM
NICE!!!!! CONGRATS on a Nice score!!!!
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Post by: nofi on October 21, 2010, 03:23:38 PM
i think i recall seeing hiwatt combo amps at some point in time. or not. ???
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Post by: birdie on October 21, 2010, 06:01:17 PM
Tatty but tasty! BTW the dr201 is enough to drive both those cabs. What's that thing on the right? Looks odd.... ;) Or maybe outta place..!
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Post by: Freuds_Cat on October 21, 2010, 11:15:29 PM
Congrats Scott. looks great and I know it sounds great.
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Post by: godofthunder on October 22, 2010, 04:11:28 AM
Tatty but tasty! BTW the dr201 is enough to drive both those cabs. What's that thing on the right? Looks odd.... ;) Or maybe outta place..!
That "thing" is a mid 70's Marshall 2x12, it came with their first solid state amps. Great sounding cab a volume ! Yes the DR201 is more than enough to power the two cabs. The 100w will power the 2x12. Eventually I want two DR201s and four Hiwatt cabs, till then I have to make do with what I have. I still have JCM800 Marshall 4x12 and a 2x15
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Post by: Bionic-Joe on October 22, 2010, 05:16:40 AM
Sell your Marshall major and buy another 201.
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Post by: godofthunder on October 22, 2010, 05:23:58 AM
Don't know if I can do it Joe. I have owned that amp since '83. I'm a sentimental sort, it would be tough to sell.
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Post by: birdie on October 22, 2010, 08:12:29 AM
A 201 slave amp would be just the ticket. Twiddle on the one tone stack for both amps and Bob's your Uncle!! You could drown out a Phish concert in Burlington... from your house! :o
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Post by: godofthunder on October 22, 2010, 10:26:34 AM
201 Slave amp, where would one find such a item ??
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Post by: Psycho Bass Guy on October 22, 2010, 11:07:14 AM
...best live bass sound I've ever heard in concert was the Supersuckers with Eddie Spaghetti playing a 90's Gibson Les Paul standard bass through two SVT cabs on either side of the stage, one powered by an SVT head, the other by a Hiwatt 201 slave head. Your Marshall cabs are pretty kickass already. I wouldn't get too hung up n the "brand" thing.
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Post by: Bionic-Joe on October 22, 2010, 11:07:46 AM
VERY cheap in England from what I hear. Coupla hundred pounds.
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Post by: godofthunder on October 22, 2010, 11:47:44 AM
VERY cheap in England from what I hear. Coupla hundred pounds.
Now were talk'n !   I like things to match, I know it's silly but I can't help it.
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Post by: Highlander on October 22, 2010, 01:15:27 PM
Billy/Lowend has/had a Hiwatt combo (spotted it on Mark Huss' site a while back)

Reality check time, people...

I've been watching out for a "cheapie" for Scott for a while - any of you people know about the "two chances" or "two hopes" joke...?

Presentlly for sale in the UK on evilbay...

1970 DR112 - scuffy and rare as hen's teeth - no bids - $1550
1973 DR103 - scuffy - 15 bids - $1100
1978 DR103 - good order - 1 bid - $1100
A late 80's 50w combo - no bids - $1000
A 1975 4x12 - good order - pick-up only - $1550
a new DR103 - ex demo - BIN $1863

Title: Re: Incomming Hiwatt 4x12!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: godofthunder on October 22, 2010, 01:19:27 PM
I'm really digg'n the $325 I paid for my SE4123  ;)
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Post by: Highlander on October 22, 2010, 01:21:25 PM
You got VERY lucky, Bro... as I said - in general it's Bob Hope and No hope and one of those is dead... ;D
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Post by: lowend1 on October 22, 2010, 02:07:08 PM
Now you need a DR405... :o
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Post by: Highlander on October 22, 2010, 02:08:47 PM
You still got that combo...?
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Post by: Bionic-Joe on October 22, 2010, 06:43:51 PM
I'd be cool with another dr201 myself.
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Post by: birdie on October 22, 2010, 10:31:27 PM
201 Slave amp, where would one find such a item ??

My lips are sealed :-* I mean I,..umm. Oh yeah, I remember now, no idea. Sorry ;)
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Post by: Big_Stu on October 23, 2010, 05:46:49 AM
201 Slave amp, where would one find such a item ??
VERY cheap in England from what I hear. Coupla hundred pounds.

Not that cheap anymore, and not so common, the 100w is more common. But in either case it's been known for MusicGround to buy them, convert them up to full DR201 spec using their own parts, fake spec panel on the back & whack em out for full DR201 prices. It's all well-documented on Plexi-Palace.
But IF I do ever see one on Ebay UK I'll give you a heads-up Scott.
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Post by: godofthunder on October 23, 2010, 06:31:25 AM
Hey Stu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How's things? I found this right in my own back yard, would you believe it ??
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Post by: Big_Stu on October 23, 2010, 07:01:35 AM
Pretty good, mega busy on the Xmas rush to get CDs into stores. btw, black paint is allowed if you want to on your cab; that used to be Nomis's job on Slade's Hiwatts.  :mrgreen:
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Post by: godofthunder on October 23, 2010, 07:08:14 AM
lol I am going to brake out the black paint just no time yet!
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Post by: lowend1 on October 26, 2010, 05:46:32 AM
lol I am going to brake out the black paint just no time yet!

FYI-One trick that works well on Hiwatts is a can of "wrinkle" finish black that is available at your local speed shop or auto parts store. Follow the directions, feather the edges where the tolex ends and you should be golden. One whole rear edge of my 4x12 is done this way.
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Post by: godofthunder on October 30, 2010, 05:30:05 AM
Live footage from last Saturday at Buffalo's Biggest Halloween Bash held at the old Central Train Terminal. I can't listen yet my daughter is still asleep, please for give any mistakes. Hiwatt DR201 paired with a 2150 and SE4123 cab. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBYdJxTepMA
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Post by: godofthunder on November 19, 2010, 02:15:04 PM
 Broke out the black paint looks much better from 10 feet away !(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/peterpan11-10002.jpg)
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Post by: jumbodbassman on November 19, 2010, 02:23:50 PM
looks perfect.  same height  - that is a very nice pair
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Post by: Highlander on November 19, 2010, 04:50:49 PM
Still looks suitably disgusting and relic'd... 8) 8) 8)

They even match up height-wise - what more could a guy ask for...
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Post by: birdie on November 19, 2010, 09:28:53 PM
Some basket weave for that 4x12 would be matchy-matchy cool. Or some coffee/tea soaking..!
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Post by: godofthunder on November 20, 2010, 06:57:51 AM
 For now I am going to leave the grills alone. I like the weave on the SE4123 better than whats on the 2150, my old 2150 had the gray/white weave. I usualy have another head on stage, for this gig I left it locked in the van, I'm getting lazy in my old age.
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Post by: birdie on November 20, 2010, 08:16:45 AM
Firstly, as we all know,the single 201 can drive the whole rig ;D
Second, using one head allows you to drive the head a bit more, and get that nice power tube"Fur" that I like sooo much!!
You gonna match the basketweave to the salt and peppah?
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Post by: godofthunder on November 20, 2010, 09:04:00 AM
 I'm torn about the basket weave. I like the salt and pepper but I like to leave stuff original so it will most likely stay as is. I am on the look out for another SE4123 and another 2150. I have a Sound City 200 Plus that I can run extra cabs with and it's a close enough cousin to the DR201. I also have a 80's Hiwatt Bass 100 I use. Sometime I'd like another DR201. Then I think I'm all set.  ;D
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Post by: Highlander on November 20, 2010, 02:03:09 PM
Then I think I'm all set.  ;D

Oh yeah... since when did the Pope become a Protestent...? ;)
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Post by: godofthunder on November 20, 2010, 04:44:00 PM
Ah Kenny ye know me to well.