The Last Bass Outpost

Gear Discussion Forums => Gibson Basses => Topic started by: Hornisse on August 06, 2010, 02:02:26 PM

Title: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: Hornisse on August 06, 2010, 02:02:26 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/1987-Gibson-IV-Bass-/130418371533?pt=Guitar

Baz should just buy it for the pickups!   ;)
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: Dave W on August 06, 2010, 02:04:25 PM
Good deal. Somebody ought to jump on this.
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: Hornisse on August 06, 2010, 02:09:44 PM
The only down side is the seller has no seller feedback.  Hopefully will be packed well.  Nice slab of Mahogany on these basses and they have the same pickups as on the Thunderbird Basses.
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: Denis on August 06, 2010, 03:56:24 PM
That's a beauty! Much better looking than that hideous pink one for sale a while back.
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: uwe on August 06, 2010, 05:36:31 PM
Denis, you just flunked Gibson 80ies class. The pink one was a Q-80 which has about as much in common with a IV as a Fender P has with a Non Rev T-Bird. Tsk, tsk, tsk ... where is Fräulein Rommel to administer punishment?
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: Rhythm N. Bliss on August 06, 2010, 08:07:12 PM
Looks good lefty! I oughta buy it for consolation.  :P
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: Denis on August 07, 2010, 04:09:16 AM
Denis, you just flunked Gibson 80ies class. The pink one was a Q-80 which has about as much in common with a IV as a Fender P has with a Non Rev T-Bird. Tsk, tsk, tsk ... where is Fräulein Rommel to administer punishment?

Gads, you are right! I'm so ashamed. In my defense (if I have any) is that IVs don't show up very often and don't get much discussion here. So...are they heavy? Unbalanced? Weak? Do tell, Uwe!
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: Hornisse on August 07, 2010, 06:45:44 AM
From what I remember about my V they were lightweight and sounded great.  On B.B. King Live at Montreux from 1993 the bass player uses a IV exclusively.  There is one track where he does a solo but I cannot recall which one it is.  Some nice sounds on this clip though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA-9l3ZmLNs&feature=related
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: godofthunder on August 07, 2010, 07:51:16 AM
I am tempted.........................
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: TBird1958 on August 07, 2010, 08:01:00 AM
Denis, you just flunked Gibson 80ies class. The pink one was a Q-80 which has about as much in common with a IV as a Fender P has with a Non Rev T-Bird. Tsk, tsk, tsk ... where is Fräulein Rommel to administer punishment?


 Cat o' Nine tails at the ready Herr Moderator   ;)
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: Denis on August 08, 2010, 01:48:41 PM
 I'll take a pass on that!

I'm surprised no one bought that bass, or did someone? Seemed like a deal.
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: Hornisse on August 08, 2010, 02:33:57 PM
Someone bought it.  Wonder if it was Scott?
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: Denis on August 08, 2010, 04:01:32 PM
Someone bought it.  Wonder if it was Scott?

Hope so!
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: godofthunder on August 09, 2010, 06:49:17 AM
Not me, to many kid related expenses !
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: pamlicojack on August 20, 2010, 12:02:02 PM
I owned a red one for awhile a couple years ago and sold it to someone on this board.  It was a fine bass, super light, and sounded decent.  I just had no use for it..
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: Barklessdog on August 20, 2010, 02:02:13 PM
I owned a red one for awhile a couple years ago and sold it to someone on this board.  It was a fine bass, super light, and sounded decent.  I just had no use for it..


These basses just can't find the love. No yet has had one as a favorite that I know of.
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: gearHed289 on August 20, 2010, 03:10:13 PM

These basses just can't find the love. No yet has had one as a favorite that I know of.

That's cause Les Pauls and Thunderbirds look way cooler.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: PhilT on September 01, 2010, 06:01:37 AM
I owned a red one for awhile a couple years ago and sold it to someone on this board.  It was a fine bass, super light, and sounded decent.  I just had no use for it..

That was me. I had it for a couple of years, used it on a couple of recordings. It's finest gig with me was at The Punchbowl in Warwick, a pub that has a shelf loaded with old crock pots above head height all round where the band plays. We'd been playing for a couple of minutes when there was a crash, then another and another. Through the set I took about a dozen pots down, fortunately most survived.

It was great as a slightly quirky second bass to my reliably dull Precision, but I'm not a collector, so in the end it fell victim to the restless urge to try something else. Not an out and out favourite, but definitely remembered with affection.
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: uwe on September 01, 2010, 06:06:56 AM
They look horrible, but sound well. That is their secret and eternal burden. If looks isn't everything to you and you crave for great upper register access and even a high E, then the IV is for you. If you want a B string, then the V is a perfect choice for a passive TBirdish sound with a strong B string.
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: PhilT on September 01, 2010, 06:11:28 AM
That's cause Les Pauls and Thunderbirds look way cooler.  :mrgreen:

You have to hold it right. :o

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1396/1346576994_16662fff06.jpg)
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: dadagoboi on September 01, 2010, 07:07:00 AM
They look horrible, but sound well. That is their secret and eternal burden. If looks isn't everything to you and you crave for great upper register access and even a high E, then the IV is for you. If you want a B string, then the V is a perfect choice for a passive TBirdish sound with a strong B string.

I couldn't help looking at it and thinking how easy it would be to cut the body sides off and "wing" it into something pretty cool.  Easily made into an Alembic Exploiter clone or 22 fret Goofybird...too many projects!
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: ilan on September 01, 2010, 08:42:35 AM
The bridge pickup looks really close to the bridge... how does it sound solo'ed?
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: dadagoboi on September 01, 2010, 08:53:37 AM
Ermmm...like this? :-\
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/2010%20Fenderbird/JAE_ALEMBICEXPLORER.jpg)
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: Denis on September 14, 2010, 10:21:30 AM
So...what would a good purchase price be for a natural finish IV?
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: uwe on September 14, 2010, 10:54:58 AM
400-600 bucks irrespective whether it's a 4- or 5-string.
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: Denis on September 14, 2010, 11:17:57 AM
400-600 bucks irrespective whether it's a 4- or 5-string.

Wow, the poor things really can't find the love, can they?
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: uwe on September 14, 2010, 11:32:05 AM
Few people outside this circle know that they are - to quote George Carlston - "TBirds in Clark Kent mode". They are often mistaken with Victories and Q-80ies with whom they actually share almost nothing. And their look is indeed grossly unappealing, but their sound isn't. There is nothing wrong with copying a Fender shape if you do it right and add some flourish to it, but those things look like the larva of a Fender. That their look was unfortunate and would hinder success was already known at their inception, but the design department was told "not to do experiments" and simply get them out. Price-tagged around 1.000 US Dollars at the time, they died a mercifully quick death. They were, to their eternal credit, the initial platform for the TB Plus pup though which would then reign supreme over almost all Gibson basses until this day.
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: exiledarchangel on September 14, 2010, 11:40:33 AM
My only gripe with those basses is their headstock, never liked that vee-inspired* thingy. If they had a les paul type headstock they would be great. Especially in red, naturally. If for some reason I had one, I would be VERY tempted to circumcise its headstock pointy tip. :P





*do I have to remind you Uwe that I don't like anything vee? :D
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: Denis on September 14, 2010, 12:08:56 PM
Interesting information, guys. How many (or few) years were they made?
I'd like to try one out sometime. I rather like the natural finish ones, but looking around, I have to say I do not at all like the painted ones. The headstock isn't even too bad, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: uwe on September 14, 2010, 01:31:32 PM
The bridge pickup looks really close to the bridge... how does it sound solo'ed?

Good eye, Ilan. Both the neck and the bridge pup on these are about half an inch closer to the bridge and farther away from the frets (I measured from the 19th fret on both a IV and a TBird) than they would be on a modern day TBird (rereleased at around the same time) which explains why a TBird sounds fatter, but a IV perhaps a little more focused. The bridge pup solo'd sound nasal, but not thin, you could certainly still play fusion with it and be recognized as the bass player! Overall, these basses have a warm and fuzzy sound.

There were only three non-custom colors: ferrari-red, white (which would yellow quickly) and natural (which brings out the maho texture nicely and complements the anodyne body shape better than the more garish colors).

The headstock was a conscious move to avoid the nut pressure issues (the stringholder as the source of all evil!!!  :mrgreen: ) of a Fender type headstock (with a nod to Gibson history: Flying V and Grabber), but of course there was no way it could look right with that type of a body. Phil Jones, the designer at the time (it was one of his earliest creations), was very unhappy with the outcome (forced on him, he initially wanted "to bring the TBird into the eighties and make it affordable" with it).

I've never seen one that was not produced in 1987 though I can't rule out that a few crept out in 1988. Essentially, they filled the gap between the death of the Victory turns Q-80 turns Q-90 line and the TBird reissue in late 1987. There was little sense in keeping them around once the new TBirds were out, cannibalizing sales beckoned.

The IVs and Vs have a place in Gibson history for being the first new full maho bass models after a ten year reign of maple with Gibson bass building and for being the first Gibson five stringers (and not bad ones at that).
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: PhilT on September 14, 2010, 02:25:36 PM
If you're going to have one, it may as well be red. Otherwise it looks like you're trying to hide it.

Considering the dislike for its appearance amongst the cognoscenti, several people who had no reason to say anything about mine told me they liked it. Nobody ever said anything bad about it.
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: Denis on September 14, 2010, 04:15:47 PM
Being contrary, I would go for a natural finish one.  :)
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: the mojo hobo on September 14, 2010, 05:38:37 PM
Now I kind of wish I had kept this one:

(http://www.mojohobo.com/bass1.jpg)

Heather Poly
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: OldManC on September 14, 2010, 09:32:23 PM
That's the one I like!
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: uwe on September 15, 2010, 02:52:56 AM
Yes, that one is purdy! Silly boy to let it go!  :-\
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: Barklessdog on September 15, 2010, 04:12:20 AM
Are the necks T bird like or more P bass?
Title: Re: Gibson IV Bass for $379 BIN!
Post by: uwe on September 15, 2010, 06:02:59 AM
Not as sleek as a TBird, more Les Paulish.