The Last Bass Outpost
Gear Discussion Forums => Other Bass Brands => Topic started by: Psycho Bass Guy on April 17, 2011, 05:28:43 AM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/EDWARDS-ESP-E-T-100TR-TOSHIYA-DIR-GREY-BASS-/180652882902?pt=Guitar&hash=item2a0fc03bd6
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From the title, I have trouble even figuring out what it is! And it's white, not grey.
"EDWARDS (ESP) E-T-100TR TOSHIYA DIR EN GREY BASS"
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Dir En Grey is a Japanese band. This is the bassists sig model.
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OOOOOooooooooh....sure.
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DIR EN GREY BASS
ESP D-TR-300
(http://japan-discoveries.com/images/bass_ESP_D-TR-300%20dir%20en%20grey%20toshiya%20signature_00.jpg)
Dir en grey Toshiya signatureKB-KUMOVI SBK
(http://japan-discoveries.com/images/bass_killer_KB-KUMOVI%20TBK%20dir%20en%20grey%20toshiya_00.jpg)
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I don't care for that black one at all :puke:
He also used an Edwards Mosrite clone for a while.
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Dir en Grey is meant to be to Dorian Gray what Lynyrd Skynyrd is to Leonard Skinner.
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...and what In a Gadda da Vida is to "in the garden of Eden".
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Me likey Dir En Grey, they came to Chicago recently but I missed them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqMrPazt1gs
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/Fenderbird/Musicians/n500441212_301426_8280.jpg)
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Their pretty boy looks totally defy the music they make, SoaD meets Rage against the Machine meets Einstürzende Neubauten meets Nine Inch Nails meets Marilyn Manson. I can appreciate them, but only in small doses. The kind of music which will have Edith ask helpfully agter about the first 10 seconds: "Will we be listening to the whole CD?" :mrgreen:
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The kind of music which will have Edith ask helpfully agter about the first 10 seconds: "Will we be listening to the whole CD?" :mrgreen:
OH YEAH, I know THAT band! :P
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When I put in one of their cds, my wife makes me skip thru to the couple of songs that she likes and then wants the disc changed.
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i made it 26 seconds in. :P this band wishes it were half as good as any of its 'ingredients'. :bored:
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Their pretty boy looks totally defy the music they make
Is called Visual Kei
Visual kei (??????? vijuaru kei?, literally "visual style") is a movement among Japanese musicians,[1][2] that is characterized by the use of make-up, elaborate hair styles and flamboyant costumes, often, but not always, coupled with androgynous aesthetics.[3][4] Some sources state that Visual Kei refers to a music genre, or to a sub-genre of J-rock (a term referring to Japanese rock in general[5][6]), with its own particular sound, related to glam-rock, punk and metal.[7][8][9][10] However other sources state that Visual Kei's unique clothing, make-up, fashions, and participation in the related sub-culture is equally as important as the sound of the music itself in the use of the term.[11][12][13]
Deluhi - great guitarist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax_9p0wt3HM
Another band I like in the Genre- D'Espairs Ray - amazing band live- I got see them in a tiny bar in Chicago- They were one of the most polished, tightest bands I have seen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RouaDUVZo0
Gackt-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXp0v93ZRTs&feature=relmfu
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I just don't bother at home - Kentuckian wife (likes all kinds of music - country and western ;D)
I like a peaceful life...
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Abingdon Boys School
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP62-bncFgw
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My kids were 10 years old before they knew there were any kinds of music except two:
1) Oldies (when riding in the car with me)
2) Country (when riding in the car with my wife)
Then they started spending more time riding in other cars going to softball games and discovered other kinds of music!!
But I saw to it they're REALLY well checked out on rock oldies.
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Seems my kids went through stages like that as well. My son discovered the Beatles (elementary school), Middle school it was SOAD & Linkin Park (metal phase) then on to classic rock like the Who & Stones (High School) but has now gone on to Minutemen, punk & Indie rock, like the Shins, Broken Social Scene & Black Keys.
For me as long as its well performed, it's all good. I could never stand listening to the same type of music 24/7
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Is called Visual Kei
Visual kei (??????? vijuaru kei?, literally "visual style") is a movement among Japanese musicians,[1][2] that is characterized by the use of make-up, elaborate hair styles and flamboyant costumes, often, but not always, coupled with androgynous aesthetics.[3][4] Some sources state that Visual Kei refers to a music genre, or to a sub-genre of J-rock (a term referring to Japanese rock in general[5][6]), with its own particular sound, related to glam-rock, punk and metal.[7][8][9][10] However other sources state that Visual Kei's unique clothing, make-up, fashions, and participation in the related sub-culture is equally as important as the sound of the music itself in the use of the term.[11][12][13]
Deluhi - great guitarist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax_9p0wt3HM
Another band I like in the Genre- D'Espairs Ray - amazing band live- I got see them in a tiny bar in Chicago- They were one of the most polished, tightest bands I have seen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RouaDUVZo0
Gackt-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXp0v93ZRTs&feature=relmfu
Oh, you mean like my son then, far left!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v615/uwehornung/5251705717_88dbe6c4a5_z.jpg)
Warning: Do not unwittingly expose your children to 80ies hair metal -ever!!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfB7vF7nCdA
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He loves Steel Panther. And then adds kind of sad: "Even though I know they are not serious about it and wear wigs." Growing up is hard!
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In the background you see Ze SECOND Kollekshun. All the bass cases Gibson ever built...
Carefully stowed away in a dark cellar somewhere in Frankfurt
:thumbsup:
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Why are there no basses in that pic, Uwe?
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I take it your son plays bass ?
Of coarse not a Gibson?
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I take it your son plays bass ?
Of coarse not a Gibson?
He plays guitar. I think Uwe bought that Les Paul for him.
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Ah, to be young again.....
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Of course children generally wish to be contrary when it comes to their parents so I would guess Uwe's son plays guitar and probably a Dean Razorback or similar judging by those threads man.
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Uwe might buy a Dean Razorback for himself. I would think the kid gets a Gibson if Uwe's buying.
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Flying V's are kind of traditional in Deutschland bands, ya...?
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Uwe might buy a Dean Razorback for himself. I would think the kid gets a Gibson if Uwe's buying.
He already has one doesn't he? As for the assless chaps to match.........er.... ;) ;D
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Leon is a gear snob (you are allowed to own Gibsons, Gibsons, Gibsons, one or two Fenders and a Gretsch - all other brands are lesser ones; amps have to be tube and feature the Marshall logo) and in many ways more conservative than I: His Firebird had to be sunburst, no other fin was acceptable. He did buy an 80ies Kramer cheap a while back because he wanted something "with an 80ies headstock".
The band (Vegas Accident) is as yet without a bassist as they haven't found someone yet to their exacting visual standards. He has to be tall, glammy, skinny as a rake and dedicated like hell. And play with a pick close to the bridge with a sharp, bony sound. All of which forces them to do without a bass player for the time being, on their demos they play the bass themselves. Leon is a skillfull bass player (he prefers Fender Jazz basses of all things!) and - don't you just love kids - never fails to point out that he is not only faster than dad on bass, but can also slap and tap on bass too. How I hate the brat for it! He's together with the curly haired one part ot the two-pronged lead guitar attack of the band while the drummer sounds like Tommy Lee in Rammstein.
They have a plan. Having justifiably identified Sweden as the current glam rock Mecca of the world, they want to move there in summer for a 12 month stay of "making or breaking it". The other two are a couple of years older than him (they saw him on the street looking like he does and asked him if he played guitar, he affirmed, incredibly clichée ...). So my son, who is only turning 17 in June, is proposing to me now to finish school this summer after 10th grade already and then move as a still-minor to Sweden with his two twenty-something buddies. I am torn. Between the realisation that this is probably the way to do it if you want to give it a real attempt and my Über-Ich which warns me that he needs a comprehensive education should sex, drugs and rock'n'roll not be sufficient on his CV in the future. And of course he knows how to get me with questions like: "Dad, will there ever be a better time for me to give it a try than now?" I try to console myself with the thought that Sweden is not LA and people don't get shot there. And there is always hope that his new girlfriend might talk him out of it.
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If his girlfriend talks him out of something he really wants, in time that will turn into resentment. If he convinces himself that he'd rather be with her in Germany, that's a different matter.
And tell him that size matters but speed doesn't. 8)
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You're raising a very sore point there, Dave! He wins on that count too and I don't mean height! Well, at least I had it in my genes ...
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TMI... ;D
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Ken, a man my age and a father of an endowed teenager must live up to certain things. The cruelty of nature ...
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You're raising a very sore point there, Dave! He wins on that count too and I don't mean height! Well, at least I had it in my genes ...
or his Mums? :mrgreen:
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You sure have a knack of pulling the rug from underneath one! :mrgreen: True, Martina always had a masculine side to her (I liked to cook and she didn't), but now you have me really wondering ... :-\
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He plays guitar. I think Uwe bought that Les Paul for him.
Leon would be adamant for me to correct this: I bought the Flying V (a faded budget version) and the FBird (a regular Gibson USA one), he bought the Custom Shop LP with his savings second hand from someone working at a guitar store for a good price. But since the other guy plays an LP too (or a B.C. Rich Mocking Bird or an Epi SG Doubleneck, you can probably guess the influence not only in the hairdo ...), Leon says: "Two LPs are just too much, it's too phat, we sound best when I play the Firebird and Renaud his LP." That Custom Shop LP is a wall of sound and sustain and the overwound Doug Aldrich (Whitesnake) Suhr pups he has put on expands those traits even more. Nice harmonics feedback though.
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Leon says: "Two LPs are just too much, it's too phat,
Tell him I said he needs to listen to more Humble Pie ;)
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Actually proves my point as Frampton had a very percussive LP sound, not that creamy sustain normally associated with them! But of course there is also Thin Lizzy which for most of their career featured double Paulas too.
The dif is that most Les Paul players in hard rock settings today sound more like Zakk Wylde (or Slash) than Peter Frampton as far as tonal density goes. And who would want two Zakk Wyldes in one band I ask?!!!
LPs are iconic guitars and have a lovely lead tone, but in the hands of most people they get in the way with dense rhythm playing. I should know, I was in a band with an LP rhythm guitarist for years and when he changed to a Tele our sound really lit up and I could finally dial the treble and presence on my bass sound back!
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... The cruelty of nature ...
(I did state on a previous thread that I had concerns over "compensation issues" and Ze Kollection, Uwe)
Hmm, tell me about your childhood... In this case, I'm happy to waive me fee (... for the book, the appearance fees, the university circuit, the film rights...) ;)
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Actually proves my point as Frampton had a very percussive LP sound, not that creamy sustain normally associated with them! But of course there is also Thin Lizzy which for most of their career featured double Paulas too.
The dif is that most Les Paul players in hard rock settings today sound more like Zakk Wylde (or Slash) than Peter Frampton as far as tonal density goes. And who would want two Zakk Wyldes in one band I ask?!!!
LPs are iconic guitars and have a lovely lead tone, but in the hands of most people they get in the way with dense rhythm playing. I should know, I was in a band with an LP rhythm guitarist for years and when he changed to a Tele our sound really lit up and I could finally dial the treble and presence on my bass sound back!
Our guitarist bought an LP. I thought I was going to like it, but I don't. I couldn't have explained why, but I think you just did.
Talking of Telecasters and tone - Steve Walwyn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwQUX7R0Tk4
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Or you could have the best of both worlds. :mrgreen:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/Rbowen/TeeVee62.jpg)
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Or you could have the best of both worlds. :mrgreen:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/Rbowen/TeeVee62.jpg)
That looks amazingly right.
I can match it in reverse with my Les-o-caster
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/Freuds_cat/Squier-Tele/Squier-TL269.jpg)
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/Freuds_cat/Squier-Tele/Squier-TL251.jpg)
Neck scale is the same as a LP. Its funny watching regular Tele players start playing it trying to work out whats different.
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I've said this before, but I believe (and my ears hear it) that just like a Firebird is Gibson's closest approximation to a Strat sound, the Flying V is Gibson's Tele in sound. All the guys that used a Flying V in the fifites got that middish twang out of it (thanks in part also to the sustain-removing Bigsby). Andy Powell of Wishbone Ash makes his Flying Vs twang to this day, because he doesn't use a lot of distortion letting the guitar sound like it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p90XvOo07yk
A Tele is of course sharper with all the maple and the single coils, but the Flying V is similarly sparse in the frequencies it takes away from other people. Which is also a reason why (besides the look) it became so popular in Heavy Metal, especially in twin lead guitar scenarios, you can distort the hell out of it and it still doesn't sound like mud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=req-oDf2ZRc
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The vintage Tele lead pickup sound is more trebly than midrangy. OTOH the midrangy Flying V sound is closer to it than other Gibsons.