The Last Bass Outpost
Gear Discussion Forums => Bill's Shop: Projects, Mods & Repairs => Topic started by: sniper on May 01, 2012, 06:27:06 PM
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notice the great body lines and the totally passive pickup along with the feather touch tuners:
http://s170.photobucket.com/albums/u275/cathousemouse/cooked%20mahogany%20EBO/
i think i'll make a player out of it! already found a Honduras Maho neck blank, have some tuners, a 60's pup and a 460 bridge either NOS or a NOS missing the tail piece but i have a Hipshot D type tailpiece to bolt onto it. the body don't look too bad and Chip says there is enough neck to make a pattern from. a few shots ... visit my photobucket for more pics.
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u275/cathousemouse/cooked%20mahogany%20EBO/010.jpg)
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u275/cathousemouse/cooked%20mahogany%20EBO/003.jpg)
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I'll bet you can get some crisp sounds out of that. :rimshot:
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(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u275/cathousemouse/cooked%20mahogany%20EBO/006.jpg)
i like the super fast shortened fretboard. checked the prices at warmoth and a mahog (saple) guitar body was 225$, i got this body for 82$ with enough of a pattern to make a neck.
here is the neck blank:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/230731648254?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u275/cathousemouse/cooked%20mahogany%20EBO/honduranneckbank.jpg)
from nut to the end measures 21.75" should be enough to mount a 30.5" scale fretboard onto with about 20 frets.
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Man, when you play that baby, I bet it will really be hot!!! You'll be cooking' for sure! :rimshot:
You are amazing, I can't believe you grabbed that! Well, in the end, it should work for you. And I thought a missing headstock was a challenge!!!!
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I can tell that Sniper knows a good piece of ash when he sees it! :thumbsup:
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I can tell that Sniper knows a good piece of ash when he sees it! :thumbsup:
I hope he doesn't get burned out working on this project! Sorry, I couldn't help myself. ;D
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yeah, yeah, yeah, lets see when Chip 'the master' gets through with it. in the mean time i'll take all the kidding you can throw at me. i know Uwe is cooking up a goody but don't forget he saw a diamond in the rough when he made the bullet bass. hot licks tonight, lol.
http://www.vintageguitarman.com/vintage_parts.php
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here is the neck blank:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/230731648254?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u275/cathousemouse/cooked%20mahogany%20EBO/honduranneckbank.jpg)
from nut to the end measures 21.75" should be enough to mount a 30.5" scale fretboard onto with about 20 frets.
Before you get all fired up about this project, better double check the situation. That's enough neck length for your scale length, but it looks to me like the end of that blank will extend beyond the pickup cavity, which would mean rerouting that and moving the bridge (and posts) closer to the end of the body.
As always, I could be wrong.
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good observation Dave, i think the contoured part of the heel will get shortened a bit and the heel itself will stick into the pup cavity and need to be shortened. i have my Epi beside me now and have been measuring it and a fretboard i have as well as the Epi fretboard. i think it a gonna work. if not Chip can carve me a neck. good input though.
Doc, love ya, sounds good on my healing and yours. money going out tommorrow for the pups. Carlo, love you too and i'm going to have a 66-69, no 65 but you are the inspiration for this (hope it works, lol) as that day we last talked i really got the GAS for a 60's EB of some sort.
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P.S. Dave, if you think this would be better moved to the projects section, then by all means do it. CW
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I've heard EB0s have a damn hot pickup, but didn't knew they were so hot! :D (I know, cheap joke).
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As long as it doesn't smell like cigarettes.
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Possibly used by Arthur Brown's bass player for his hit "FIRE"??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOErZuzZpS8
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Nope. Sorry to say there was no bass player in Brown's Crazy World band, Organist Vincent Crane used the bass pedals ... :mrgreen:
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Yea cause someone set the bass on fire! :P
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Dr. thanks for the pups, they will go perfect in the rebuild. The tuners are a bit iffy as some of the body bases are bent. I will see what I can do with them. Love those pups though.
I got the neck blank in today along with some extra Maho to thicken the head with if I want to make it a slot head. The head pitch is rather shallow so that is the direction I am going even though there were no 66 slotheads. I need to get a tracing of a slothead both front and back if I can. I'll post something in here and ask for tracings. The guard tracing and the head tracing will help a lot, thanks again.
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Dr. thanks for the pups, they will go perfect in the rebuild. The tuners are a bit iffy as some of the body bases are bent. I will see what I can do with them. Love those pups though.
I got the neck blank in today along with some extra Maho to thicken the head with if I want to make it a slot head. The head pitch is rather shallow so that is the direction I am going even though there were no 66 slotheads. I need to get a tracing of a slothead both front and back if I can. I'll post something in here and ask for tracings. The guard tracing and the head tracing will help a lot, thanks again.
My pleasure, glad I could help!
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"Hello Clarence;
That doesn't look too bad. I've honestly fixed worse cases than that. Like the Gibson SG that was thrown head first into a wall by an angry spouse.....
I don't see any need to replace the neck. I'd put on a new fingerboard and rebuild the headstock. I'd probably replace the outboard wings on the headstock and put a mahogany veneer on the front surface. Maybe a veneer on the back too, depending on how deep the charring is. Unless there's some big splits or something I'm not seeing, that's all restorable. It would look fine under a transparent finish; no major scarring.
I'm not looking for the job, because I'm quite booked up right now, but I could rebuild it, repaint it, and have it back together and looking like new for under $1000 total, assuming that you've got most of the hardware.
You found yourself a bargain.
Bruce Johnson"
i think that said it all. i wonder how many mudbuckers i could fit on it ... i have three ... just kidding!
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$1000? I could do it for that...I'd just buy a perfectly sound EB-O and sell it to you. Give you $5 credit for that piece of firewood ;D
Seriously, I might understand if it was a cherished bass of yours that burned but it ain't. Resell it and start over and be glad you haven't sunk more money into it.
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i think Bruces rate is a little high but there is going to be a lot of work in getting this back to a working order and have it look respectable and this quote is with a clear refin.
i would agree with you except for the instances of my buying and trading for a few years that has yielded me a lot of parts that are totally profit for me. i probably have enough parts to build at least three basses all of which would have very respectable pieces in the build ranging from NOS Gibby parts to names like Schaller, ABM, Gotoh, Dimarzio and a few others. my cash outlay so far is $182 for a salvagable Maho body and a new Maho neck blank. i admit i would have to buy fret wire but i do have two Rosewood fretboards and two bone nut blanks along with chokes, pots, bridges, tuners, covers, varitone plates (my lord!!!) and NOS headstock overlays with MOP inlaid logos. parts are not a problem. a rebuild would require almost no cash outlay in parts procurement unless i can't get it out of my head that i want a slotted headstock which would require some machine work to make me a set of long string posts i can add to a regular set of tuners. i already have a set of embossed 71 type EB3 pups to go on it so it is going to become a hodgepodge of Schaller, Gibby parts and Gibby styles.
i could probably even relic it and sell it to some idiot out there for an "original" at an inflated price, make a profit, as people will buy anything.
waiting for Fedex.
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got it in. some of the serial number is readable and i might be able to recover the whole thing with a little prudence. so far it is 38X857. the third number looks like a 0 or a 6. i didn't realize a 66 EBO was so thin. the body measures 1 1/4 or 1 9/32". i will have to take a mic to it to make sure.
i am investigating the head pitch although it looks like 11 degrees.
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Maybe the fire burned off some of the thickness. ;D
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If you could do the work yourself, it would worth IMHO. A grand would go a long way to buying one in much better condition.
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i do not plan on spending near that much on this rebuild. if at all possible i will do as much of the work as i can. a neck profie on my blank and a neck set along with a fret job should do me fine.
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are you sure this is a gibson. ??? btw you can buy a new epi ebo for less than 200 bucks. :mrgreen:
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i am sure it is a Gibby from the neck joint and the numbers that i can see on the back of the head. they are all carbonized but 5 out of 6 are readable.
my father had two salvage yards while i was a young man and i guess it is in my blood to mess with wrecks.
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I was thinking it could be the start of a headstock-less Steinberger thingie.
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right now the plan is to keep the heating pad on the neck joint and keep injecting water droplets into the joint with my insulin syringe until i can lift it apart.
then i will hit the body with a sanding block.
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right now the plan is to keep the heating pad on the neck joint and keep injecting water droplets into the joint with my insulin syringe until i can lift it apart.
then i will hit the body with a sanding block.
Do you need to remove the neck? I always try to avoid that.
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the neck is toast. from the 5th fret to the nut it has lost over 1/4" of wood. the nut measures 1 3/16" now. one could probably scarf joint a new half neck on it and it would be fine.
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the neck is toast. from the 5th fret to the nut it has lost over 1/4" of wood. the nut measures 1 3/16" now. one could probably scarf joint a new half neck on it and it would be fine.
Even if that would work fine, it would probably involve just as much work.
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the neck is toast. from the 5th fret to the nut it has lost over 1/4" of wood. the nut measures 1 3/16" now. one could probably scarf joint a new half neck on it and it would be fine.
I see. I did the scarf joint on my 60s NR. It was a lot of work, but mainly because it was my first restoration.
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i just got off the phone with Chip (http://www.vintageguitarman.com/index.php) and we have decided on a route of restoration, in this case a route of rebuilding more or less. i have a laminated maho/maple through neck for a double cut Jr LP 59 model and cutting the wings off this 66 then attaching them to the neck through is the plan. i am wanting to do it in a T-Bird raised center fashion and use the 60's pup i have saving the pups you sold me Doc for the virgin 59 LP gold top body i have. i'll use the chrome Schaller M4 tuners along with the Schaller built LP (warwick type) bridge i have.
sorry Uwe, it is going to become a chromey.
as a side note, i ordered TUT3 from London Power and might have Chip build my 200S on my F Blackface cab and chassis as soon as this project is finished. i gave him 2 years to do this EBO rebuild so in the mean time i am going to be boning up on my amp knowledge and try to figure out about grafting a Bauxandal preamp onto a Dynaco Mk 3 amp. the Dynaco amp was the basis for the 200S. LondonPower and Triode Electronics seem to have about everything i will need to make this a reality. basically a new 200S that hapens to look like a Fender Blackface 50. i can dig it.
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It took me a minute to visualize this, but now I get it. So you're only going to use the original EB-0 body, but by cutting the "wings" off and putting them on the new neck? Right?
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i think it will be more of a "channel" job. the more i look at it.
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i think it will be more of a "channel" job. the more i look at it.
Might make more sense that way. Would it be easier to just put a new neck on the original body as a set neck and keep some of the old vibe and look?
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Might make more sense that way. Would it be easier to just put a new neck on the original body as a set neck and keep some of the old vibe and look?
looks like a new original type neck is the way to go Doc, i just made a deal to get a set of original tuners and an original bridge for a mid 60's EBO. i have to admit i am thinking of something other than original cherry stained Mahogany though a dark BR green or a pelham blue maybe a slightly off white? a natural Mahogany finish with clear would look great (thinking of Carlo's refinned early EBO). that looks super!
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Sounds like a good plan. Pelham and white always get my vote!