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Title: So Barkless
Post by: sniper on February 18, 2011, 09:11:15 AM
I have been wondering about your white EBO with the Pitbull and thought I would ask if you made any sound clips of it? This one:
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u275/cathousemouse/rods%20projects%20and%20sold/chair.jpg)

I have a EB3 bridge pup but am doubting if using the Gibby pup is really the way to go or not. Gibby EB3 bridge pups always sounded a little bony to me.
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: uwe on February 18, 2011, 09:17:10 AM
Just by the range of the string the Pitbull reads, I'd say any minibucker doesn't stand a chance against it especially in the bridge position.

John (the hound without howl) posted only recently that his whitey EB sounds like a Yamaha Attitude, that mix of Fender and Gibson worlds popularized by Herr Sheehan.

I have an EB-O with an RD Standard stacked humbucker pup in the bridge position, sounds great and in connection with the mudbucker even a little Ric'ish overall. Anything is better than those minipups really.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v615/uwehornung/DCP_0019.jpg)

Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: sniper on February 18, 2011, 09:29:09 AM
Nice Uwe! Something about white EB's does it for me and that Warwick bridge is just extra icing on the cake. I just got one from an LP in yesterday.

VVT?
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: uwe on February 18, 2011, 10:34:10 AM
My love for the Evertilt/Tiltomatic/two-point-bridge is well-documented in this forum. It's the second-worst American engineering invention/crime since the electric chair.

And that at least worked. Most of the time.
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: sniper on February 18, 2011, 10:49:46 AM
Vol Vol Tone setup on your wiring Uwe? i am thinking i want to keep it as simple as possible.

i am a fan your your discerning ears and really appreciate your opinion here in about all matters except when you and the Frau get into it, then i set back and laugh. thank you.
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: uwe on February 18, 2011, 11:17:48 AM
Ooops, now I get it! I thought you were referring to Validation, Verification, Testing. I'm so bad at acronyms, sorry.

Yes, vol, vol, tone. One of the control routings used to be the jack which is now at the side.
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: Barklessdog on February 19, 2011, 04:08:06 AM
About the cleanest song I can remember with it is Paddle Foot. I used mostly the EB-0 except the Bass Synth which was the Blueshawk w Kahler.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=578947&songID=9657572

The bass tends to be best at two roles, one is the high single coil mode thin twangy sound (PitBull) & the other is the Mudbucker with heavy effects-
Mudbucker with heavy effects, heard here with- The buzzy Farty noises & Lowbass parts-

Crazy Idiot Bassplayer

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=578947&songID=7804811

Definitely one of my favorite basses- no other bass does what it can (Mudbucker & pitbull combo)



Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: sniper on February 19, 2011, 04:58:57 AM
Thanks for posting those clips. I don't think I have ever heard a growl like that from an EB before. I put my mini up for sale on the bay and am going for a Pitbull. To me it sounds like a T-Bird on steroids!  :mrgreen: Kind of like having wild 45 second groping and kissing in the kitchen while the guests are seated in the dining room. Then the dressing and gravy gets carried out with a perfect host smile.

I do have a HAS Sound switch coming back from the Colby build, an extra part from a change in design, or I could make the volume an on/off/vol switch by modifying the wiper surface for one extreme to another when I don't want a blended tone. That would cut down on the controls.

My invisioned future '59 EB3 just got reconciled (to win over to friendliness) a little.

"Then I had this vision!!"...
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: Droombolus on February 19, 2011, 06:07:55 AM
Quote from: uwe on February 18, 2011, 09:17:10 AM

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v615/uwehornung/DCP_0019.jpg)

Dayamn ! Do you keep that beauty in the office or at home ?  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: Barklessdog on February 19, 2011, 06:33:23 AM
Quote from: sniper on February 18, 2011, 09:11:15 AM
I have been wondering about your white EBO with the Pitbull and thought I would ask if you made any sound clips of it? This one:
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u275/cathousemouse/rods%20projects%20and%20sold/chair.jpg)

I have a EB3 bridge pup but am doubting if using the Gibby pup is really the way to go or not. Gibby EB3 bridge pups always sounded a little bony to me.

Mine features a Big D Varitone & Push Pull Volume pot coil splitter, which barely fits in the cavity.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/Fenderbird/MY%20BASSES/P1030321.jpg)
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: sniper on February 20, 2011, 09:04:11 PM
do my eyes decieve me or is that evertilt recessed a smidge?
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: uwe on February 21, 2011, 04:52:05 AM
It is, you know how bad these things are ... I think that was even done by the pre-owner, so John is innocent for once.
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: uwe on February 21, 2011, 04:54:29 AM
Quote from: Droombolus on February 19, 2011, 06:07:55 AM
Dayamn ! Do you keep that beauty in the office or at home ?  :mrgreen:

Pic is my (former) home (hey, but I still own half of it!  :) ), but like all Gibbies it is in the office now, I keep the non-Gibbies in the (new) home.
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: sniper on February 21, 2011, 06:28:05 AM
Quote from: uwe on February 21, 2011, 04:52:05 AM
It is, you know how bad these things are ... I think that was even done by the pre-owner, so John is innocent for once.

no disrespect intended John or Uwe, i simply thought it might be a string height issue of not being able to go low enough for some reason or another like a previously reset neck or other reasons. i was really questioning my refraction correction because i was not sure.

 ;D
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: uwe on February 21, 2011, 08:23:12 AM
Of course, it's all about getting sensible action on these things. Filing the saddles deeper is another option.

Or getting a Warwick bridge.

IIRC, the less than low action is the one and only gripe John has about this bass.

Mine actually came into being because of it: I overturned the trussrod in an effort to get the action sensibly low and with that repair coming up I decided to have it refinned and have an extra pup added (plus buying a new EB-0, a slothead this time whose two point is not giving the same issues).
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: uwe on February 21, 2011, 09:03:26 AM
My EB-Warwick as it looks now, in the office, black knobs and nicely yellowed to even more an ivory tone than it already was (pic makes it look greenish, it isn't in real life):

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v615/uwehornung/IMG00090-20110221-1647.jpg)
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: TBird1958 on February 21, 2011, 09:08:52 AM

 It's your budget brand fluorescent tubes that are making it appear green Herr Moderator! You should push the bosses there at Cliiford Chance to spring for some better grade lamps that will more accurately reproduce the many colors of ze collection........ :D


Quote from: uwe on February 21, 2011, 09:03:26 AM
My EB-Warwick as it looks now, in the office, black knobs and nicely yellowed to even more an ivory tone than it already was (pic makes it look greenish, it isn't in real life):

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v615/uwehornung/IMG00090-20110221-1647.jpg)
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: uwe on February 21, 2011, 10:02:24 AM
So that is the reason behind my unhealthy complexion!!!
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: Lightyear on February 21, 2011, 10:07:43 AM
Quote from: uwe on February 21, 2011, 10:02:24 AM
So that is the reason behind my unhealthy complexion!!!

And perhaps your winter blahs! :P  It's been proven that limited sunshine in the winter combined with indoor lighting that burns in too cool a spectrum leads to depression.  Perhaps this would be more of problem for the serfs working in the windowless inner bowels of your floor ;D  Only the fat cats get to have a window! ;)
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: TBird1958 on February 21, 2011, 10:10:03 AM
Quote from: uwe on February 21, 2011, 10:02:24 AM
So that is the reason behind my unhealthy complexion!!!


 Well....that and you should have more sex.
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: exiledarchangel on February 21, 2011, 10:35:44 AM
There aren't problems sex can't solve. Or at least make you forget about them! ;)
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: TBird1958 on February 21, 2011, 11:07:14 AM
Quote from: exiledarchangel on February 21, 2011, 10:35:44 AM
There aren't problems sex can't solve. Or at least make you forget about them! ;)


 I beg to differ good sir, it's usually the best 13-14 seconds of the day  ;)
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: uwe on February 21, 2011, 11:08:19 AM
Given that Edith is, together with her daughter, on a one week Thelma & Louise trip in Denmark, I'm pretty much left to my own devices regarding the recommended cure ...

Now where is that hand puppet again?


(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_MjoXV8pn4PQ/S8NYn99kziI/AAAAAAAADTY/sRvW67KHsKg/S25C-409120114420_0023.jpg)
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: uwe on February 21, 2011, 11:11:27 AM
Quote from: TBird1958 on February 21, 2011, 11:07:14 AM

 I beg to differ good sir, it's usually the best 13-14 seconds of the day  ;)

I always had a sneaking suspicion that that stop and go aspect of your cherished national sport has sources embedded elsewhere.
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: TBird1958 on February 21, 2011, 11:30:58 AM

 What was that song????????

Oh yeah!

In my best (James) Bond girl voice.................

  "Nobody does it better"

 ;)
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: Highlander on February 21, 2011, 12:29:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEmJ-VWPDM4
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: TBird1958 on February 21, 2011, 02:51:46 PM


 We just dumb it down....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guP147T_LmM
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: Highlander on February 21, 2011, 03:25:44 PM
Does the name of that tune have any relevance Stateside...?

(Just checking)
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: Dave W on February 21, 2011, 03:31:53 PM
Quote from: Kenny's 51st State on February 21, 2011, 03:25:44 PM
Does the name of that tune have any relevance Stateside...?

(Just checking)

It's well enough known by fans of the song. Never heard the term before that.
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: Lightyear on February 21, 2011, 04:03:15 PM
Quote from: TBird1958 on February 21, 2011, 11:07:14 AM

 I beg to differ good sir, it's usually the best 13-14 seconds of the day  ;)

Um, Sting claims six plus hours with his tantric meditation :rolleyes:

But I have a theory that this could turn you into a pompus ass  ;D
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: TBird1958 on February 21, 2011, 04:27:44 PM


 Trust me here..... I'm good at "it"

   6 hours of it?!............He might be doing something wrong! Or like the Viagra commercial says " If you're sporting a woody for more than 4 hours, call a doctor" 
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: Lightyear on February 21, 2011, 05:16:39 PM
Quote from: TBird1958 on February 21, 2011, 04:27:44 PM

 Trust me here..... I'm good at "it"

   6 hours of it?!............He might be doing something wrong! Or like the Viagra commercial says " If you're sporting a woody for more than 4 hours, call a doctor" 

Certainly brings new meaning to the term "DEAD WOOD"  ;D
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: exiledarchangel on February 22, 2011, 12:47:26 AM
Dead wood eaten by fungus....... :P
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: Basshappi on February 22, 2011, 07:38:17 AM
Quote from: TBird1958 on February 21, 2011, 04:27:44 PM

    6 hours of it?!............He might be doing something wrong! Or like the Viagra commercial says " If you're sporting a woody for more than 4 hours, call a doctor" 

Hell, if I'm sporting a woody for 4+ hours I'm calling a press conference!
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: TBird1958 on February 22, 2011, 09:15:28 AM
Quote from: Basshappi on February 22, 2011, 07:38:17 AM
Hell, if I'm sporting a woody for 4+ hours I'm calling a press conference!


 I can see the headline now..............

 "Man seen carrying telephone pole"   :o
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: Pilgrim on February 22, 2011, 10:23:16 AM
Quote from: Lightyear on February 21, 2011, 04:03:15 PM
Um, Sting claims six plus hours with his tantric meditation :rolleyes:

But I have a theory that this could turn you into a pompus ass  ;D

Possibly even a badly chafed one.
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: Lightyear on February 22, 2011, 06:48:59 PM
Quote from: Pilgrim on February 22, 2011, 10:23:16 AM
Possibly even a badly chafed one.

 :rimshot:
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: Highlander on February 24, 2011, 01:21:32 PM
Dead wood..?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_xmujSyxkU
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: uwe on February 24, 2011, 02:53:00 PM
Why are you always confusing things, Kenny?  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: He said Ed Wood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CawVaHxWvnA
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: TBird1958 on February 24, 2011, 03:08:22 PM


 "More transvestites! I need more transvestites"






  ;D
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: uwe on February 24, 2011, 03:18:07 PM
One seems plenty around here!  :rimshot:

Ok, one-and-a-half then. Dubious events surrounding Herr Fräulein Carlston have never really been sufficiently cleared. Not to scientific certainty at least and therefore to this forum's exacting, yes, even excruciating and rightfully so standards.
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: Highlander on February 24, 2011, 03:26:09 PM
I has hearin' issues, Boss...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuq1A_T3vWQ

I still fondly remember seeing Plan 9 on a special showing at a screen in London some years back... believe it or not, it is being re-made...
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: uwe on February 24, 2011, 03:31:35 PM
The Fifties were an innocent age.

Back then, they would have taken Fräulein Rommel to Area 51 and confined her there.  :mrgreen:
  

(http://thefilmstage.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/area51.gif)
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: Highlander on February 24, 2011, 03:42:38 PM
Nonsense...!
Nothing new here... perfectly normal behaviour...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMqSmiC_xHg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25Qhbdijv5Y&NR=1

Ahh... of course... she's over there... (I can see you're more than a match for me... ;D)
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: TBird1958 on February 24, 2011, 03:59:50 PM
Quote from: uwe on February 24, 2011, 03:31:35 PM
The Fifties were an innocent age.

Back then, they would have taken Fräulein Rommel to Area 51 and confined her there.  :mrgreen:
  

  Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm............Cold body cavity probe anyone?  ;)
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: sniper on February 24, 2011, 07:30:53 PM
Quote from: uwe on February 24, 2011, 03:31:35 PM
...
(http://thefilmstage.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/area51.gif)


Kinda looks like my cousin Ronny from Oklahoma!
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: uwe on February 25, 2011, 04:10:17 AM
Now how to put this gently ... Your cousins have been living in this secluded rural area for a relatively long time and some interbreeding was unavoidable?
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: PhilT on February 25, 2011, 09:00:04 AM
I was about to post a link to this for someone on Basschat asking about pickup options for an Epi EB3. Then I read on. Half a page on pickups and 3 pages of options that won't help his EB3 at all.  :o

Could have been worse. Fighter aircraft of WWII for example. Topical though, we will soon be back to airfields full of cardboard cutouts and balsawood mockups, circa 1939.

Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: sniper on February 25, 2011, 12:00:18 PM
we are going to dig up Patton, clone him and have the clone make up and command the Third EB Corps...we are going to dig up Patton, clone him and have the clone make up and command the Third EB Corps...

i am liking the PitBull idea a lot, so much so i am unloading a lot of my EB3 stuff. the VVT control setup is also gaining favor with me even though i did not like the setup on my SGRI, i attribute that dislike to the bridge pup more than anything i realize now that i have sold it (sigh). with a small bit of wiper area removed from the before now supposedly unopenable pot turning the pot into an on/off /volume pot, i believe the looks and controls would be enchanced in a minimalist kind of way. a push pull on the tone pot to coil split would keep it looking clean.
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: uwe on February 25, 2011, 12:58:46 PM
He didn't say much about his relatives, did he?  :popcorn:
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: sniper on February 25, 2011, 01:12:40 PM
Quote from: uwe on February 25, 2011, 12:58:46 PM
He didn't say much about his relatives, did he?  :popcorn:

nope  :-X
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: Barklessdog on February 25, 2011, 01:42:21 PM
Quote
a push pull on the tone pot to coil split would keep it looking clean.

They are pretty tall. I had countersink mine in the control cavity and it still put a bulge in the cover. I think my body was 1 1/2" thick. Everything had to be mashed inside (Varitone capacitors)
Title: Re: So Barkless
Post by: sniper on February 27, 2011, 10:26:37 AM
hmmmm, i have a Catto patterned LP body coming in that it would fit in ...  nice and thick