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Gear Discussion Forums => Other Bass Brands => Topic started by: SKATE RAT on January 20, 2014, 06:01:28 AM
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so, i just bought this. so stoked! i've been wanting one of these for a long time. and in exactly the color i wanted................
(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x120/yrofrat/_3.jpg) (http://s184.photobucket.com/user/yrofrat/media/_3.jpg.html)
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Congrats on the new bass! Looks like a beaut. I like the one pup configuration.
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Good choice! Probably the most under valued vintage basses on the market.
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I like that one a lot. Great score!
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That is a DANDY bass...and love the color, too!!
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I love the looks and have one too, but its midrange honk needs serious frequency cutting over any rig. More honk than a Ric at its honkiest.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v615/uwehornung/81guildb301abass1.jpg)
No idea where the honk comes from, the pup? Wood combination is innocent enough (but there are also maho ones, do these honk less?). Otherwise the bass is a looker/classic and sturdy as hell. Also an example of how you can do a two point bridge that doesn't tip or tilt. If you're not Gibson that is.
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Nice one, Bryan... life is good... ;)
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Very nice. Very jealous ;-)
They remind me of the Czech-Ease travel upright
(http://www.czech-ease.com/images/CE_full3.jpg)
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Killer! Mid-range honk, eh? I would probably love that!
Looks like it has a big ole neck.
Does it sound anything like the other Guild model that Jeff Magnum used with the Dead Boys?
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Uwe, mine is one of the 'hog ones. much more common too. the ones made of ash came later and have the A as in B301-A. anyways i dont have it yet so i'll let you know about the "honk" when i get it. funny i wasn't even looking for a bass, i was looking for a project/beat up SG. but i couldn't pass on the price, it was too good. i still need a guitar though.
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The signature sound is predominantly from the pickup. Some may say it honks others might say clank. Either way it's unique and assertive. I think skate rat will love it for his music. The tone knob does a great job blending in bass and mellowing out the bite. The neck is one of the chunkier I've played but somehow very comfy at the same time. Maybe because of the profile, radius or wide low frets. Interested to hear your impression skate rat.
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Mine honks, it's not treble or presence it's some nasty frequency in between mid-midrange and high-midrange. No other bass of my 160 or 170 or whatever my current count is has that "frequency nose". But it can be dialed out.
I always thought the maho ones were the rare ones and I had the plain Jane one! Nice revelation!!!
Honk or not, I wouldn't give mine up, I really like the look and how it plays.
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there is a B301 and B302 all 'hog, and a B301-A and B302-A which are Ash and also B401 and B402 which have active electrics
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what is the neck on the B301-A is it ash as well? maple? or 'hog? other?
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The B301 A neck is the mirror opposite combo of the B301. Two piece maple neck with a hog stringer down the middle.
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Did your Guild arrive yet? These look great in white!
Here's what I did with my 301 the other day:
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c170/whereisgooge/IMG_20140125_122347.jpg)
Thunderbucker 66S. I'm waiting on pickguard material so I can put the original aside. Should I keep the ring or lose it?
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Sweet! I, personally, would go it without the ring.
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Sweet! I, personally, would go it without the ring.
+1, no ring.
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yes, but i wasn't home, so Monday
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how's it sound with the Thunderbucker?
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To make things even, you should take the B301 single coil and put it in an NR bird ;D
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It pretty much sounds like a Thunderbird to me. I'm going to play around with it but I'll most likely put the original back in. No mods done at this point except a few extra screw holes in the pickup cavity.
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so, i finally got the bass, and it's awesome! perfect neck just perfect. nice low action. sadly it has flats.(actually the best feeling flats i've played) so i need to buy some new strings. also i can't get over how light it is. i could only plug it into my dinky lil practice amp as it was kinda late and i have neighbors. but i am very very happy with my purchase. totally worth the $625. i paid. now i just need a new band...............................
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Nice price. Glad you like it. The strings look like chromes or Ernie Ball flats. I ended up with the EB flats in the .050 to .105 gauge on my B 301 and I really like how they sound and feel on this bass compared to the rounds I tried. I don't just like them for old school thump either because I play them pick style a lot too and they kick and growl nicely for a flat on the Guild.
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you play flats with a pick? weird. i may leave them on for a little while. like i said they do feel kinda nice for flats, which i've never liked too much.
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"You play flats with a pick? Weird."
Huh? That's a classic recipe for the click sound!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puuWsTitPa4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOf4uNwvC6c
Even this was played with flats and a pick!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzac3PtH3o0
And how do you think this sound by an obscure scouser bassist was achieved? ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ6C3NerD0s
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Let's not forget Carol Kaye, who always played flats with a pick.
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Another flats/pick person here - not exclusively, but I've learned that it's an interesting combination that works for certain things. Congrats on the bass by the way!
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Let's not forget Carol Kaye, who always played flats with a pick.
The classic early Beach Boys bass sound that was blatantly ripped off for that The Flower Pot Men track.
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I was practicing last Saturday and where I've had my amp turned too low, I was digging in too hard with my fingers on my EB flats on my Epi LP and my entire hand cramped and seized, forcing me to pluck the strings with the meat of my thumb because my fingers would not loosen. I'll have to try a pick there sometime. I've never tried one with flats.
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you play flats with a pick? weird.
The best way in my opinion. Love that sound for certain things. That's the sound of virtually every Beatles and Wings song.
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I'm not much of a pick player at all, but when I do use a pick, it's on flats. Don't like rounds in general (until they're 5+ years old) and to me the attack of a pick on flats is just about right.
That Flowerpot Men video takes me back to Nehru jackets. I had one that was metallic green, verrrrrry cool.
(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/apowell1/FlowerpotMen_zps2926da4f.jpg)
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Felix played flats with a pick on his Thunderbird.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGHMze4_1MY
This tune is flats with a pick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF7-WPxPIro
I'm pretty sure Joe Osborn played on it but Carol Kaye claims she did it?
Put that Guild through it's paces on a big rig yet?
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Uwe, in the Bert Kaempfert video, 2:23-2:31, you can see two bass players, one playing fingerstyle, the other (Fender J) with a pick.
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Here are great 16 minutes of pick-and-flats: http://comediansincarsgettingcoffee.com/tina-fey-feces-are-my-purview
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Uwe, in the Bert Kaempfert video, 2:23-2:31, you can see two bass players, one playing fingerstyle, the other (Fender J) with a pick.
Yes, I know, earlier than that the bass parts were doubled on guitar with a pic. Later on there was a double bassist and an electric bassist (with a pick), but their parts weren't doubled anymore, the double bassist playing the more orchestral parts. The late Ladi Geisler was the bassist that came up with that sound initially in Kaempfert's big band, he was also Germany's first EB-1 player (later on sodomized with a P split coil!).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xso2r7PWpDM
And in the vid I posted there is even two double bassists, plus one (what even looks like an acoustic) bass guitarist as spotted by Ilan and the guy with the J providing the click or - in German - Knack.
I think pick and flats is a lovely combination. A sharp attack with quick decay, it really brings the bass up in the mix without stepping on anyone's sonic toes. It's a bit like slapping for its percussive effect, but there is more tone to the note. Unrestrained slapping is too percussive and not enough tone for me.
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Video of me playing my Guild B301 with flats and a pick at an open mic.
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Video of me playing my Guild B301 with flats and a pick at an open mic.
https://www.facebook.com/ari.dagan
I don't see the video. Do you have a direct link?
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I edited the post with an embedded video link. If you are signed into fb and then click on the link where it says Post in my last reply, you should be good to go.
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Nope. Shows content unavailable. You or whoever posted it must have it set to private.
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I'll have to start making my own vids. Posted some others in the Bass Zone, hopefully they work.
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Thanks to my friend for uploading to Youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dfo2_SiLiU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Thanks. At least I can hear the mids.
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ARRRRGHHHHH!!!!!
T'is the evil of the sixth string...! :o ;)
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Thanks. At least I can hear the mids.
This is partly due to the recording method, but there's no denying the middy tone of the bass. Throw in flats and a pick and things get even crisper. I could have backed off the tone on the bass a bit more or boosted the bass eq on the amp but I liked how the sound complimented the acoustic guitar tone the way I had it. Wonder if Uwe thinks it sounds honky.