The Last Bass Outpost
Main Forums => The Outpost Cafe => Topic started by: Rhythm N. Bliss on December 30, 2009, 02:28:37 PM
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Looks like I'll be going again! My IN is thru my drummer in GODBROTHERS.
He says I've got a pass! So hopefully I won't be busy moving like I was last time.
I will soon have a warehouse space to build a new studio in....
My friends HumanLab will be performing at the Martin booth on Sat. & Michael hopes they'll give him a Martin to play & hopefully he'll get to keep it.
His Fender acoustic is 20 years old & looks almost like Willie Nelson's! Hole-y!
Hope to see some of you there! Jan. 14 - 17
www.namm.org
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Be sure to take a lot of pics of all the left handed Gibson basses.
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Be sure to take a lot of pics of all the left handed Gibson basses.
You are a cruel man Dave. :mrgreen:
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Be sure to take a lot of pics of all the left handed Gibson basses.
Nyah - ah - ah!!
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If rumors are true, then there won't be righthand bass pics either.
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If rumors are true, then there won't be righthand bass pics either.
What rumor is that?
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The rumor I heard from a shopowner with good relations to Nashville (he goes there a couple of times a year) was that Gibson will skip participation in Winter NAMM due to their current financial dire straits and that there would be a press statement about it. Which sounds hard to believe, but that is what he heard from a Gibson marketing guy. Maybe just a cost cutting contrmplation along the lines of 'let's take nothing as sacred". Of course, a company such as Gibson doesn't really need NAMM as an advertising platform, so you could think like that. But image-wise it would be a disaster.
They are certainly not quick on delieveries currently, still waiting for my Ripper II!
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The rumor I heard from a shopowner with good relations to Nashville (he goes there a couple of times a year) was that Gibson will skip participation in Winter NAMM due to their current financial dire straits and that there would be a press statement about it. Which sounds hard to believe, but that is what he heard from a Gibson marketing guy. Maybe just a cost cutting contrmplation along the lines of 'let's take nothing as sacred". Of course, a company such as Gibson doesn't really need NAMM as an advertising platform, so you could think like that. But image-wise it would be a disaster.
They are certainly not quick on delieveries currently, still waiting for my Ripper II!
I found it hard to believe too.
If you go to NAMM Show 2010 (http://www.namm.org/thenammshow/2010), click on Interactive Floorplan and then search or browse the Exhibitor List, you'll find that Gibson is listed with three exhibit areas. That doesn't prove they will actually be there but it does look like it. We'll know soon enough.
I do believe they're in financial trouble though, based on Moody's evaluation.
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The rumor I heard from a shopowner with good relations to Nashville (he goes there a couple of times a year) was that Gibson will skip participation in Winter NAMM due to their current financial dire straits and that there would be a press statement about it. Which sounds hard to believe, but that is what he heard from a Gibson marketing guy. Maybe just a cost cutting contrmplation along the lines of 'let's take nothing as sacred". Of course, a company such as Gibson doesn't really need NAMM as an advertising platform, so you could think like that. But image-wise it would be a disaster.
They are certainly not quick on delieveries currently, still waiting for my Ripper II!
Won't break my heart if they don't show .... the are snobs and only let their dealers in the booth anyhow.
I am looking forward to getting out of the rain and soaking up a little So Cal sunshine!!
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John! Good to see you here. I'm just checking out your new (to me) site now. I was wondering what you were up to just two days ago!
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I was wondering what you were up to just two days ago!
(cue TWYLIGHT ZONE music here... ;D)
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Gibson won't be there.
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I am looking forward to getting out of the rain and soaking up a little So Cal sunshine!!
This is a good time to, been getting into the 70s during the day here and staying sunny.
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Just a week to go!
Yeah! It's like Summer here!!! 8)
Doug Aldrich will perform & so will Flametal!!
I'll look for you there, John. Will there be a Wymore booth?
WooHoooo! Gettin' PSYCHED!
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Gibson won't be there.
You have some inside information?
They're still shown in the NAMM Exhibitors list. Of course that only proves they reserved booth spaces many months ago.
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If they don't show up at NAMM, then the rumors so far have been too benign ... I'd be stunned.
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trade shows aren't as important as they once were.
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trade shows aren't as important as they once were.
You're probably right in general. Still, the January NAMM show is easily the most important event in the US retail music industry. AFAIK it's as big as ever.
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Trade shows don't open you new markets if you're an established brand, true. But Gibson not at NAMM is like Mercedes not showing up at the Detroit Auto Show. If Gibson does indeed skip this Winter NAMM, then all Fender personnel will probably get a day off.
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Is there a UK equivalent...?
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In my industry the big guys have either their own shows for their major clients or go to them. They have pulled out of the trade shows for the most part. All they have now are press booths. Mom & pop stores either don't exists or do not carry the volume to warrant the high cost of a trade show. Trade shows now are for the little guys on both sides.
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Having a pass for NAMM now is sorta like having a ticket to Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory!
They are IMPOSSIBLE to get & IDs are checked many times throughout the show.
This began last year. I didn't go tho I had a pass, I was busy moving.
I'm definitely going & having FUN this year!
It's more about the PERFORMANCES than the products!
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Is there a UK equivalent...?
No, but there's Musikmesse in Frankfurt in March. Even bigger.
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Musikmesse is larger than Winter NAMM? I had no idea. Heute Deutschland, tomorrow ze world!
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I don't know for sure, only that it claims to be the biggest. So it must be true.
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You're probably right in general. Still, the January NAMM show is easily the most important event in the US retail music industry. AFAIK it's as big as ever.
As big as ever - I guess, relatively speaking, but they've been having a tough time keeping attendance up for a few years now. I get this trade rag at my office - Music & Sound Retailer or something like that - and they're always doing NAMM related stories. Now they're getting lawsuits thrown at them, along with Fender and GC.
As far as my comment about Gibson not being there, I've heard that from a couple of sources. Just the other day a friend of mine who owns a music store told me. Could be wrong, we'll see???
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No, but there's Musikmesse in Frankfurt in March. Even bigger.
New ways to not buy what I can't afford... :mrgreen:
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BTW - Ive got a new product debuting at Musikmesse in March. It's a shock-mount rack with pocket doors that conforms to both Euro and US truck pack dimensions and has rigging hardware so it can be flown with the speakers in an array system. Took me MONTHS to make it all work. I swear, I almost quit my job over this thing, but we landed the gig. It's part of a package that will be sold through Crown with 3 power amps and custom in/out panels called the "V-Rack" that will go with the JBL Vertec series speakers. Wish me luck, 2009 nearly sank the company. End of thread hijack..... ;D
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Best of luck with that. Having a good product is only half the battle, hopefully your marketing approach will pay off.
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Ditto Dave's...
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BTW - Ive got a new product debuting at Musikmesse in March. It's a shock-mount rack with pocket doors that conforms to both Euro and US truck pack dimensions and has rigging hardware so it can be flown with the speakers in an array system. Took me MONTHS to make it all work. I swear, I almost quit my job over this thing, but we landed the gig. It's part of a package that will be sold through Crown with 3 power amps and custom in/out panels called the "V-Rack" that will go with the JBL Vertec series speakers. Wish me luck, 2009 nearly sank the company. End of thread hijack..... ;D
Yeah! Good luck with that & maybe we'll see ya at NAMM next year!
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Ugh... tell me about it. The product and service kick ass, but we suck at marketing. My hands are tied in that area. Thanks guys!
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Countdown! Just 3 days to go!!! :mrgreen:
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Found out yesterday that the couple who runs a guitar store in Florida who usually get me an' my buds in ain't comin' out this year after all!
I'm GUTTED. :(
Gonna go & hang out on the outskirts at least. May slide in somehow, we'll see....
FLAMETAL will be performing outside at the John Lennon stage at noon on Friday.
I'll be there! I'm sure I'll see some other good shows & I'll be participating in the Drum Circle, led by my friend Arthur Hull.
All the stars will be in the Hilton bar at sometime or other. I'll hang out there a bit tooo
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Have fun, and good luck... ;)
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... is where Gibson will be "partnering" with Monster Cable at Winter NAMM 2010. It says so on the official Gibson website. And the way they trumpet Monster Cable's case there makes you wonder whether Gibson is going piggy-back with Monster Cable and not the other way around. Maybe a sensible way to save money. Maybe desperation. Maybe Monster Cable is buying Gibson?!!!
They mention that the Grabber will be "introduced" at NAMM so they might turn it into a regular model again - deservedly so me thinks judging from the ltd ed I have. It sounds best with a Monster Cable too ...
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Too bad. Monster Cable execs and their attorneys ought to be chained to a dungeon wall upside down. Let's hope it's only a cooperation for the show.
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Saw FLAMETAL at noon & ogled Angeline their AWESOME bassplayer who lookks as good as she plays!!
My bud Rick flew in from Hawaii as usual & he confirmed what Uwe said that Gibson has a tiny booth shared with Monster cable.
He said Gibson also has an upper floor booth FOR BUYERS ONLY!!!!
Got a truckload of free magazines so I have plenty of reading material for the year....
Going back for the Drum Circle from 5:45 --- 7pm this evening & may see Uli Jon Roth tonight at the Grove, one of the many satellite shows.
They're checking everyone's ID so I ain't even trying to slide in. Oh well.
A lot of the space is roped off & not being used this year.
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Can't wait for the NAMM pics on Gibson's official site then. Somehow, they'll manage to make that small booth look large. Monster Cable. That is like Mercedes sharing a booth at the Detroit Auto show with Bosch, the German spark plug maker (and other auto related electrical components).
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They do have the buyers-only booth upstairs. But this does sound like downsizing to me. At both the summer shows I attended in Austin, they had a big public booth with lots of product (except basses :sad: ) and listening stations.
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Well, I prefer them saving money this way rather than laying even more people off.
Maybe, if we put up a fund here we could carve out their bass business? You could be CFO, Dave, and I'll head the marketing department!
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You may be on to something. For the right price, one could probably buy the right to use the Gibson name for basses. Then all we'd have to do is manufacture them. Maybe find some empty factory in Kalamazoo....
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Can I volunteer to be QC - just send them all here for me to approve... :P
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The investment really wouldn't be that much - especially now with tooling be sold off at firesale prices. For that matter you could source material and have the shells done oversears, bodies/neck/fingerboards/frets, do the elctronics, hardware, finish, and final setup here. A good setup and using a Plek machine would make for a great product.
Just tossing this out in case a certain overseas barrister would care to start a little side bidness...... ;D
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Buzz, be careful what you wish for, that certain overseas barrister would probably produce low-priced teaser models with plastic pickups and black hardware then double the prices for chrome.
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Got a hug from my ol' pal Uriah Duffy. He was toasted. lol
He'll be at an All Star Jam tonight at the Cat Club on Sunset.
Talked with Billy Sheehan & he said he'll be there tooo
Billy shook hands with me twice!!
Yes, I still get starstruck at NAMM.
Lots of colorful METAL Rockers in the Hilton crowd.
They remodeled! No more pool table, dammit!
Hope I can get in ze Cat Club....
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Buzz, be careful what you wish for, that certain overseas barrister would probably produce low-priced teaser models with plastic pickups and black hardware then double the prices for chrome.
Yeah, that thought occured to me after I posted that. He would probably also insist that the grain filling be a little on the spotty side and that the nitro be shot for maximum orange peel :vader: :vader:
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"Continuing the 50th Anniversary celebration that Gibson’s Les Paul has enjoyed the last few years, we saw Gibson’s 1960 Les Paul Standard 50th Anniversary models today at Gibson’s surprisingly compact NAMM display today."
http://www.themusiczoo.com/blog/2010/50th-anniversary-gibson-1960-les-paul-standard/
That is one way of putting it.
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That's confirmation from someone who was actually there, and it was small enough for them to remark on it.
Better get your Dusk Tigers now before they become collectors items like the Corvus.
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Dave has really grown friendly with the Dusk Tiger - that name left an impression on him!
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You don't like the Dust tiger?
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The name sounds silly to me. It wouldn't matter if the guitar weren't so goofy. As it is, you've got both silly and goofy. Another winning combo for Gibson. :rolleyes: