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Main Forums => The Bass Zone => Topic started by: the mojo hobo on February 18, 2019, 02:42:53 PM
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With vocals.
https://www.facebook.com/jonjen/videos/10156322770632362/UzpfSTEwMDAwMTA4MjMwMjc2OToyMjE0MjI4MzU1Mjg5ODg2/
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Sounds like he's played it once too many times.
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Sometimes a simple line is what the composer intended.
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Pieces like that give you a chance to catch your breath for harder things in the program like Mozart's per questa bella mano.
Here's Edicson Ruiz doing a fine job of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeTizZ86fMI
The bass part wasn't hard enough for this guy so he decided to also sing the aria at the same time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYTdPTmmsPQ
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Yup, the little Austrian's talent extended to bass lines as well. People tend to belittle Mozart's work compared to the "more serious" Beethoven or Bach, but Mozart has something madly brilliant in his music I don't hear in the others. There is a difference between even great skill and unearthly brilliance.
Why, oh why did F. Murray Abraham only kill him? Must have been the CIA guy in him ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML_f3aV_Vwk
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That movie is cute but hardly accurate. On a positive note, it is most likely the reason for renewed interest in Salieri's own compositions which were quite good. Mozart is an amazing composer and Beethoven himself claimed his skills were not as superior. That is debatable for observers but in terms of output, the sheer amount of compositions Mozart completed within his relatively short life must have meant it took up the majority of his waking hours. I doubt very much if that type of workload would have allowed him to be the party animal as he was portrayed.
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There is something frenzied, feverish, inspirational in his music - there is a lot going on -, I don't hear that in Beethoven. And Salieri (you're right, his music was rediscovered due to the movie) I like, but compared to Mozart his music is very much like a skilled and tutored math equation. That's not knocking him, Rush built a career on that! :mrgreen:
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The movie Amadeus has a special place in our family. It was playing on TV the night our first daughter was born, and about the time it finished my wife said "Time to go..."
She won't forget it, that's for sure.
Tom Hulce sure threw everyone's image of Mozart into a tizzy with his off-the-wall portrayal.
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There is something frenzied, feverish, inspirational in his music - there is a lot going on -, I don't hear that in Beethoven. And Salieri (you're right, his music was rediscovered due to the movie) I like, but compared to Mozart his music is very much like a skilled and tutored math equation. That's not knocking him, Rush built a career on that! :mrgreen:
I'm quoting this to give more Rush fans a chance to see it and attack you. :mrgreen:
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Well, given your family experiences, you're a victim too. :mrgreen:
I like Rush but it's not like they pick up a guitar and write Ob-La-Di Ob-La-Da or The Times They Are A Changing on the spur of a moment. Let's just say that their creation of art is somewhat more processed, ok, liebe Rush-Fans?
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Well, given your family experiences, you're a victim too. :mrgreen:
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Huh?
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Didn't you complain about your son's Rush phase - I think it was Keith - and how you heard enough of it to last a multiple meter/convoluted time signatures-lifetime? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
The good thing is: Children grow out of things like "Cygnus X-1" eventually. There must be a cure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OMibr8CqQ4
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Sorry, I should have remembered. It was so long ago. Now he's a middle aged man.
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Does he still listen to the three Canucks? Some habits stick. ;)
I still like all the music I used to like as a 16-year old, it's just that today my tastes have broadened a lot. I've gained Miles Davis or David Sylvain, but I haven't lost Sweet or Mud.
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He hasn't mentioned Rush in a long time, but I'm sure he still does.
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The movie Amadeus has a special place in our family. It was playing on TV the night our first daughter was born, and about the time it finished my wife said "Time to go..."
She won't forget it, that's for sure.
I was watching the Teddy Pendergrass documentary on Showtime before this one was born.
(https://i.imgur.com/lDa9ORM.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/43vJGj1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Vq8796N.jpg)
Sadly my wife didn't watch it with me but I don't know if it would have been that memorable either way. I highly recommend it if you can find it. As far as boleros go, I think Beck has Ravel beat and that goes the same for Ronnie Woods bass line. Or maybe it was Page that wrote it and JPJ on the bass? At least that's what some are claiming on the comments section here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vuj5toLeyY8
Much better than Rush as well.
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I just never got Rush.
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There is something frenzied, feverish, inspirational in his music - there is a lot going on -, I don't hear that in Beethoven. And Salieri (you're right, his music was rediscovered due to the movie) I like, but compared to Mozart his music is very much like a skilled and tutored math equation. That's not knocking him, Rush built a career on that! :mrgreen:
Salieri had some nice moments. Bela Fleck and Chris Thile showcased some of his work quite beautifully.*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_y1Lfs2--c&list=OLAK5uy_nFRznz9q5ED2yE1aFgl-8gETfxypEAG_A&index=15&t=0s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ych7SiJ1pjg&list=OLAK5uy_nFRznz9q5ED2yE1aFgl-8gETfxypEAG_A&index=2&t=0s
*edit my mistake Scarlatti and Salieri are not the same guy. They aren't even composers of the same genre, Scarlatti being baroque and Salieri being classical. Excuse my carelessness. Never the less, still nice work by Thile and Fleck.
By the way, the baby's name is Ruby Joella. After my father's passing I wanted to honor his memory in my daughter's name. He was Joseph and we wanted something other than Josephine. My wife wanted to pick Jolene but the association with the Dolly Parton song was too strong for me. (there's also a completely different song by Ray Lamontagne by the same name) Coupled with the first name which is also a Kenny Rogers song it was a bad combo of connotations of a woman who not only cheats on her wounded warrior husband but also steals another woman's man to boot. So Joella was a compromise we both liked. Here's another great country song about a Ruby. I'm hoping my girl will get better gigs than the holiday inn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF62W9EhkvE
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I always identified Ruby with this song here (didn't hear the Kenny Rogers song until many years later). I also heard the Melanie version long before I realized that it is a Jagger/Richards composition, I think Melanie made it her own, bum notes and all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ca0l5KMdX0
Since then, I always liked the name Ruby, good choice!
And then, in the 80ies, the Kenny Rogers song made a surprise return with Gary Holton (ex-Heavy Metal Kids and Johnny Rotten-role model with his cockney sneer):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU01haMIf6g
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Carmen McRae did a nice job on this Thelonious Monk song in her later years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFE6GiMcL7g
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Ruby, Don't Take Your Love To Town was written by Mel Tillis, although I don't think he sang it in public until after it became famous. It was a big country hit for Johnny Darrell a couple of years before the Kenny/First Edition version.
Let's not forget Dion. Note the Eko 995 bass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRjviO8negQ
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Trying to slip this in here ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4rE5Cy9LP8
... but not in any way insinuating that 4stringer77's daughter is named after the assumed surname of one of the more colorful figures of 20th century US history.
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... but not in any way insinuating that 4stringer77's daughter is named after the assumed surname of one of the more colorful figures of 20th century US history.
Immortalized in the Killer Vintage Guitars' Hazard Ware Ozzie Oswald Tee (https://www.hazardware.com/product-page/ozzie-oswald).
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Jack Ruby was not a factor in our name choice.
Many people might associate the name with the Kaiser Chiefs song Ruby. It's not the first thing I think of but then again I'm not as hip to the stuff kids like these days.
Some fine picking by the Osborne bros. here. Maybe I'll teach her how to play banjo. When I call her Ruby Jo my wife gets mad so the banjo idea would probably make her really blow her top. ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhiOaSWuFjU