Bass on Ravel's Bolero

Started by the mojo hobo, February 18, 2019, 02:42:53 PM

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the mojo hobo

With vocals.



Rob


Pilgrim

Sounds like he's played it once too many times.
"A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any other invention with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila."

Dave W

Sometimes a simple line is what the composer intended.

4stringer77

Pieces like that give you a chance to catch your breath for harder things in the program like Mozart's per questa bella mano.
Here's Edicson Ruiz doing a fine job of it.


The bass part wasn't hard enough for this guy so he decided to also sing the aria at the same time.



Contrary to what James Bond says, a good Gibson should be stirred, not shaken.

uwe

Yup, the little Austrian's talent extended to bass lines as well. People tend to belittle Mozart's work compared to the "more serious" Beethoven or Bach, but Mozart has something madly brilliant in his music I don't hear in the others. There is a difference between even great skill and unearthly brilliance.

Why, oh why did F. Murray Abraham only kill him? Must have been the CIA guy in him ...



We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

4stringer77

That movie is cute but hardly accurate. On a positive note, it is most likely the reason for renewed interest in Salieri's own compositions which were quite good. Mozart is an amazing composer and Beethoven himself claimed his skills were not as superior. That is debatable for observers but in terms of output, the sheer amount of compositions Mozart completed within his relatively short life must have meant it took up the majority of his waking hours. I doubt very much if that type of workload would have allowed him to be the party animal as he was portrayed.
Contrary to what James Bond says, a good Gibson should be stirred, not shaken.

uwe

There is something frenzied, feverish, inspirational in his music - there is a lot going on -, I don't hear that in Beethoven. And Salieri (you're right, his music was rediscovered due to the movie) I like, but compared to Mozart his music is very much like a skilled and tutored math equation. That's not knocking him, Rush built a career on that!  :mrgreen:
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

Pilgrim

The movie Amadeus has a special place in our family. It was playing on TV the night our first daughter was born, and about the time it finished my wife said "Time to go..."

She won't forget it, that's for sure.

Tom Hulce sure threw everyone's image of Mozart into a tizzy with his off-the-wall portrayal.
"A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any other invention with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila."

Dave W

Quote from: uwe on February 22, 2019, 04:31:39 PM
There is something frenzied, feverish, inspirational in his music - there is a lot going on -, I don't hear that in Beethoven. And Salieri (you're right, his music was rediscovered due to the movie) I like, but compared to Mozart his music is very much like a skilled and tutored math equation. That's not knocking him, Rush built a career on that!  :mrgreen:

I'm quoting this to give more Rush fans a chance to see it and attack you.  :mrgreen:

uwe

Well, given your family experiences, you're a victim too.  :mrgreen:

I like Rush but it's not like they pick up a guitar and write Ob-La-Di Ob-La-Da or The Times They Are A Changing on the spur of a moment. Let's just say that their creation of art is somewhat more processed, ok, liebe Rush-Fans?
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

Dave W

Quote from: uwe on February 25, 2019, 01:04:15 PM
Well, given your family experiences, you're a victim too.  :mrgreen:

...

Huh?

uwe

Didn't you complain about your son's Rush phase - I think it was Keith - and how you heard enough of it to last a multiple meter/convoluted time signatures-lifetime?  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

The good thing is: Children grow out of things like "Cygnus X-1" eventually. There must be a cure.

We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

Dave W

Sorry, I should have remembered. It was so long ago. Now he's a middle aged man.

uwe

Does he still listen to the three Canucks? Some habits stick.  ;)

I still like all the music I used to like as a 16-year old, it's just that today my tastes have broadened a lot. I've gained Miles Davis or David Sylvain, but I haven't lost Sweet or Mud.
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...