The Thrill Is Gone... BB King... RIP...

nofi · May 30, 2015, 07:11:18 PM

given enough time the right will continue to destroy themselves on sex and money related scandals. i thought the one world gov. nonsense was dead. guess not.

Dave W · May 30, 2015, 09:49:34 PM

Quote from: 4stringer77 on May 30, 2015, 02:06:00 PM
Uwe, most of what ills the black community can be traced back to Lyndon B Johnson's war on poverty and the institutionalization of welfare in America. The family unit suffered since the community now depended on the government to fill the supporting role that a working father figure should. Margaret Sanger's establishing planned parenthood has for instance, resulted in more black babies being aborted in New York city than are born for the last few years (Black Lives Matter!). Top this off with the CIA directly involved in flooding the urban areas with illicit drugs such as Heroin and Cocaine and the results are what you see in America today. Democrats have been race baiting with the help of Obama, Eric Holder and Al Sharpton not to mention the backing coming from George Soros and we now have Baltimore in a state of criminal decay with the police being held back from enforcing any order. Really it's all part of the bigger picture for a one world government trying to assert itself by tearing apart the social structure in order to rebuild it according to their own globalist tenants. Divide and conquer. Burn baby burn. Another Bolshevik style communist revolution with a fascist dictator at the helm. Anyhow that's my 2 cents. Sorry to get political but if a moderator chooses to make racially charged statements, I figure it gives the rest of us free reign.

I don't see Uwe's statement as being racially charged and it definitely wasn't political. It was just his observation based on this and four more high profile examples involving black entertainers. It wasn't a general comment about race at all.

Whenever things turn political here, I get complaints. I don't like it when people get offended by political discussions. Let's stop this now.

Highlander · May 31, 2015, 02:21:32 AM

Was this the five minute argument or the full half-hour...?

Basvarken · May 31, 2015, 02:30:29 AM

Highlander · May 31, 2015, 02:47:46 AM

I'm trying to imagine a dead persons Four Yorkshiremen sketch, including BB King, Graham Chapman, Elvis, and maybe, just maybe, Salvadore Dali... to ensure a surrealist element...

Maybe that third pint of coffee was pushing the envelope... heading off to buy a new laptop... this ones days are numbered...

wellREDman · May 31, 2015, 04:43:49 AM

Quote from: Highlander on May 31, 2015, 02:47:46 AM
I'm trying to imagine a dead persons Four Yorkshiremen sketch, including BB King, Graham Chapman, Elvis, and maybe, just maybe, Salvadore Dali... to ensure a surrealist element...

Laugh Out Loud
that made my morning

4stringer77 · May 31, 2015, 06:03:35 AM

No prob Dave. I understand that a bass forum isn't the place to get political. I could go on, but will bite my tongue. The new 50's inspired bass I have must have got me thinking like Joe McCarthy somehow.

uwe · June 01, 2015, 10:50:25 AM

Oh my, big, big subject. To put it with Tom Petty: I ain't no racist, I don't even drive.

I had no issues with my daughter's black boy friend, he was a nice enough guy and I wish they would have worked it out. I don't believe in superiority based on pigmentation - the South African Apartheid system was inane in that way. But not being racist against the individual shouldn't let you close your eyes on statistic traits - good or bad - of the collective (as long as you don't automatically transpose your impressions of the collective on the individual - that is racism in my book). Denying that some black communities in the South take better care of their cars than of their houses is closing your eyes on reality, but it's no excuse for assuming that any black tenant will run down the house you let him, yet keep his Corvette or Mustang squeaky clean.

Likewise, it is a simple observation that white cops shoot more blacks than - ever thought about it? - black cops shoot whites. Which can lead you to all kinds of conclusions: That there are too few black cops and even fewer white criminals running from them or, disconcertingly, that the life of even a white man has perhaps more value to a black police officer than the life of a black man to a white police officer. In any case, I haven't yet heard of a drunk white couple being shot a hundred times and more by surrounding black policemen while sitting (or dying) in a car.

And whether people are the way they are (or tend to be perceived as being that way) due to destruction of their former tribal roots, men being torn away from their families and sold as slaves or too many indiscriminate welfare programs is another topic
we won't get to grips with here. (Reality very seldom follows party lines, it's probably all three and then some.)

For the record: I believe that people act in a certain way mainly due to their social influences (family, education, peer group, economic opportunities, role models, social history etc) and I believe to see evidence for that all the time - in contrast, the scientific determination that the amount of pigmentation of your skin determines how you act has yet to be made in my book. It can, however, determine how you are perceived and that is an issue. Hopefully, I manage to avoid it most of the time.