Wilson + McCartney + Hitler

westen44 · March 09, 2015, 04:51:21 PM

I am beginning to like this guy. He is definitely amusing. Maybe I'll even give the music a shot again sometime.

uwe · March 17, 2015, 07:39:21 PM

Quote from: Dave W on March 09, 2015, 02:50:17 PM
The wisdom of Noel Gallagher (NSFW language)

Come on, he has humor. His new solo album has quite some horns on it (something Oasis always met with derision) and when he gigged it recently one of his announcements/quips was: "Ok, everybody stay calm, yes, we're gonna have a sax player on stage with us right now".

Dave W · March 17, 2015, 07:47:11 PM

Yes, he is funny.

Psycho Bass Guy · March 18, 2015, 12:21:28 PM

I just wish a tenth of the money that's been spent on publicizing Oasis. They had what, one or two Top 40 hits 20 years ago and yet somehow they've ever been some kind of musical or cultural watermark? U2 can at least claim having seen the top of the charts a few times. Pop music may be a wasteland, but Oasis is no oasis.

uwe · March 23, 2015, 09:31:04 AM

They sold 50 million CDs, that wasn't bad in its time and can no longer be even attained today.

Oasis is to me like Nickelback, I neither despise them nor are they the Lord's gift to rock music. Identifiable sound, some good tracks, lots of fillers. In the 70ies, both of them would have been solid class B bands. Where UFO, Nazareth, Foghat and Mott the Hoople roamed.

OldManC · March 24, 2015, 05:23:20 PM

Quote from: uwe on March 23, 2015, 09:31:04 AM
Where UFO, Nazareth, Foghat and Mott the Hoople roamed.

BITE YOUR TONGUE, LAD!

MHO, of course, but UFO were and still are better (and have had more staying power) than most of the bands that passed them on the way to class A status. Def Leppard and Scorpions immediately come to mind (and I really liked both of those bands in their prime).

uwe · March 26, 2015, 05:51:27 AM

That is a good point, Herr Carlston. Had UFO more to offer than ze Scörps and Def Leppard? On their good albums yes, there is only one Phil Mogg and one Michael Schenker. But what they lacked as a working unit was any form of consistency and focus. And those two traits are what made the Scorpions and Def Leppard so enormously successful. None of their members really had star or "deep artist" quality (I'm talking about the Scorpions sans Uli Roth, his new CD with reworked Scorps tracks is something to marvel at),

but they were good collectively and VERY DETERMINED outfits. Triumph of the will, so to say. When the Scorpions gave interviews in Germany around 1978 how they wanted to conquer the US and fill arenas there, people laughed at them and said: "Klaus Meine can't even sing proper English, yet wants to beat Americans at their own game." Michael Schenker once remarked "I'm all about the music, my brother Rudolf is about keeping a band together as a living breathing entity, it is the secret of the enduring success of the Scorpions". Finally, Joe Elliott, always a perceptive man, once self-realized: "Not one member of Def Leppard is really anything special and we all know that, but we just work extremely well together."

I only recently bought the last three UFO albums with Vinnie Moore to hear what they do now. Only heard the most recent/new one and was surprised how earthy they sound with him. Not Schenker, but way better than Paul "Tonka" Chapman who for his life could never play a meaningful solo.

So maybe there is something to the old saying "Success is 10% talent and 90% hard work." Phil Mogg obviously wasn't the type of caring mother hen to UFO that Rudolf S. and Joe E. were to their respective bands.

Highlander · March 26, 2015, 05:35:15 PM

Some pre UFO Tonka... saw both line-ups of this band... 1st is with John Sloman but I preferred Kenny Driscoll (2nd ones) who sung on the first LP... UK pomp-rock... musically not that extraordinary but I enjoyed them...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=asM8683vfzM

www.youtube.com/watch?v=_roc1h9OCQ4
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlWzE5hUHB8

Supported Nugent in '76 and (iirc) Mahogany Rush in '77, or something like that... the pics are buried in the box somewhere, sad little person that I am...

Psycho Bass Guy · March 27, 2015, 01:05:46 AM

Quote from: uwe on March 23, 2015, 09:31:04 AM
They sold 50 million CDs, that wasn't bad in its time and can no longer be even attained today.

I never had a clue they were anywhere near that successful. I seriously thought they were just Rolling Stone's new Manchester darlings. I have to like them now. This cover mandates it (lots of pre-song banter, but it's funny):

westen44 · March 27, 2015, 08:54:56 AM

I was once in a music store (albums, CDs) when someone once said something about Tori Amos. There was a guy standing there who went into the most intense, starstruck fanboy mode that I've ever seen. It's like he was in awe of her. I think if Tori Amos had actually walked into the store he would have fainted.

uwe · March 27, 2015, 10:02:30 AM

Lone Star were third league, Kenny, and you know it! What's next, Quartz, Nutz, Bandit, Phoenix and Widowmaker?

Or Strapps, but them me loves.

nofi · March 27, 2015, 10:49:23 AM

you forgot stray dog.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArUfyJyxY90https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArUfyJyxY90

Psycho Bass Guy · March 27, 2015, 04:05:18 PM

Quote from: westen44 on March 27, 2015, 08:54:56 AM
I was once in a music store (albums, CDs) when someone once said something about Tori Amos. There was a guy standing there who went into the most intense, starstruck fanboy mode that I've ever seen. It's like he was in awe of her. I think if Tori Amos had actually walked into the store he would have fainted.

The ex loved her and copied her look, and pulled it off for about a few years. I think we saw her in concert five or six times. Tori is REALLY good, but as she older and settled in her marriage and having a kid, went batshit crazy. When I saw her in Louisville, KY in maybe 2005-06, I talked with her husband, who is her producer and live engineer; he's a nice guy, and she gave me a shout out from the stage, which embarrassed and angered the hell out of my ex because she was supposed to be "the Tori fan." I always liked her. She's made her mark and her money and is just enjoying herself these days.

Her bass player had a nice blue Lakland fiver and a Tobias 4-string fed through an Avalon preamp into what looked like an old SWR Basic Black driving an Eden 4x10 XST: best consistent bass sound I've EVER heard through a PA, which was Nexo and/or Clair powered cabs with a beautiful Midas Heritage 3 at FOH. Bass AND kick drum were always present, punch-in-the-gut but not overbearing. Even on the shows where she had a guitar player, the mix was always open and dynamic. They sold board tapes of every show online, and I got one from the Nashville show in 2007. It wasn't her best performance, probably the worst I'd seen from her personally, but the sound and the band were excellent. I took that board recording and did a little post editing to it and made a CD that I'm pretty proud of and was great practice for my mastering skills- learned a LOT of cool tricks doing it.

uwe · March 27, 2015, 05:35:31 PM

Quote from: Psycho Bass Guy on March 27, 2015, 01:05:46 AM
I never had a clue they were anywhere near that successful. I seriously thought they were just Rolling Stone's new Manchester darlings. I have to like them now. This cover mandates it (lots of pre-song banter, but it's funny):

Nice version and that was one of my favorite Oasis tracks to play - mock Lennon "Imagine" intro and all. I went ape-shit with my McCartneyisms in it. It has good chord progressions you can walk the bass thru. Sung by Noel, not Liam in the original btw.

There is no other forum on earth where there are threads that include Oasis, Tori Amos, Uli Jon Roth and Lone Star!!!

westen44 · March 27, 2015, 06:06:26 PM

Quote from: Psycho Bass Guy on March 27, 2015, 04:05:18 PM
The ex loved her and copied her look, and pulled it off for about a few years. I think we saw her in concert five or six times. Tori is REALLY good, but as she older and settled in her marriage and having a kid, went batshit crazy. When I saw her in Louisville, KY in maybe 2005-06, I talked with her husband, who is her producer and live engineer; he's a nice guy, and she gave me a shout out from the stage, which embarrassed and angered the hell out of my ex because she was supposed to be "the Tori fan." I always liked her. She's made her mark and her money and is just enjoying herself these days.

Her bass player had a nice blue Lakland fiver and a Tobias 4-string fed through an Avalon preamp into what looked like an old SWR Basic Black driving an Eden 4x10 XST: best consistent bass sound I've EVER heard through a PA, which was Nexo and/or Clair powered cabs with a beautiful Midas Heritage 3 at FOH. Bass AND kick drum were always present, punch-in-the-gut but not overbearing. Even on the shows where she had a guitar player, the mix was always open and dynamic. They sold board tapes of every show online, and I got one from the Nashville show in 2007. It wasn't her best performance, probably the worst I'd seen from her personally, but the sound and the band were excellent. I took that board recording and did a little post editing to it and made a CD that I'm pretty proud of and was great practice for my mastering skills- learned a LOT of cool tricks doing it.

I can't think of anything more appealing than a pretty rock chick with red hair. The guy in the record store probably just couldn't help himself. I haven't listened to her music very much, but she is obviously very good. Besides that, it sounds like it would be worth going to see a performance just because of the superb band.