Cheapest Trick

[uwe]

I knew that I would flick a few switches by mentioning Molly Hatchet! 



Allman Brothers - Dickey Betts could have taught Herr Nielsen quite a bit as regards major scales IMHO  - or Lynyrd Skynyrd just wouldn't have been divisive enough.



Who is the bass player in that vid? Busy bee, but nice! Amazing what you can do on a bass that is not a 12-string. And people can even hear you well. 

[TBird1958]

I only got to see them once, they opened for Heart here sometime in the mid '90s and put on a pretty good show, tho they were a bit muddy soundwise. I'm  always glad I got to see them.

[uwe]

I enjoy their albums, I have just never experienced them as an all-conquering live band. And Live at Budokan is a sonic mess, sounds like it was recorded outside of the hall while the concert was going on - all that echohohohohoho ... Yet the Budokan Hall is renowned for offering excellent acoustics as countless live albums recorded there show. Maybe Cheap Trick don't pay their sound engineers enough.


Two Budokan recordings for sonic comparison. Oh, and the DP one was a couple of years earlier on two four tracks coupled together ...

[Pekka]

There must be something wrong with me but in this clip the 12-string bass sounds great.

[Pekka]

Seen them just the once, 1980 iirc... superb show with one sad and defining moment, where they dragged a very,very drunk Alex Harvey up to the mic, and put one of Nielsen's strats round his neck, and it virtually touched the ground, so he spent minutes fumbling with it and it was so embarrassing... (glad I saw him once when SAHB were on form) Brian May wandered out too... Petersen was absent at the time and I can't remember the bassist's name...

There's a recording of it too on one of Bun E's Basement Bootleg series cd's. They did "Shakin' All Over" with poor Alex, a similar version Alex did on his at the time recent solo album "Mafia Stole My Guitar" (which is rather good by the way).

I think Alex Harvey was one of Cheap Trick's early idols alongside other cult acts like Patto, Terry Reid and The Move. A pity they never recorded Patto's "Got Rhythm" they used to play live.

[Highlander]

Who is the bass player in that vid?

The ABB one...? David Goldflies... was also with the Tolers in DB's Great Southern... saw both lineups at the Rainbow within a year of each other...

[gweimer]

Put Harry Witz on the board, and Cheap Trick sounds pretty good.

[Highlander]

There's a recording of it too ...

It went out as a BBC broadcast, but not with the encores... a 1 hour broadcast series, so there's going to be a BBC transcription disc out there too... I have it on tape form the time, somewhere in a box in the loft...

[gweimer]

[uwe]

There must be something wrong with me but in this clip the 12-string bass sounds great.

I agree (with the bass sound, not that there is anything wrong with you), bass sounds fine here (not like in Budokan), but since when did it go out of fashion for lead guitarists to play in time and at least approach a shuffle/triolic groove some of the time? 

Now that we have excavated a Cheap Trick live vid with a decent bass sound, is there maybe another one where Nielsen is playing a fluid as opposed to staccato/splutter of notes solo? He makes Ace Frehley sound like David Gilmour or Robin Trower. 

[gweimer]

[Highlander]

Gary... the noodling on the guitar for the first couple of minutes... that was Alex... the pic was taken during that song, but the intro's been severely edited while he tried to wrap the strap round his neck, and iirc it was Zander that finally sorted it out for him... they mentioned that they found him in the bar... I think it was under it...

[gweimer]

Gary... the noodling on the guitar for the first couple of minutes... that was Alex... the pic was taken during that song, but the intro's been severely edited while he tried to wrap the strap round his neck, and iirc it was Zander that finally sorted it out for him... they mentioned that they found him in the bar... I think it was under it...

After what you said, I figured the long LONG intro wasn't planned to be that way.

[nofi]

uwe, that would be david goldflies on bass. i think he joined the allman's around the time enlightened rogues came out. don't think he lasted too long.

[uwe]

I first thought he was Phil Lesh guesting with them! He certainly seemed to enjoy what he was doing. If you play a lot you should at least have fun doing it and not regard it as a chore.