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Started by Chris P., January 18, 2013, 05:51:36 AM

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saltymonkey

Quote from: dadagoboi on January 24, 2013, 08:54:41 AM
That may be true but it doesn't justify not taking the time to get the proportions more visually pleasing on the p/g.  If necessary you hire a professional to do it, it's not that expensive.  IMO there's no excuse for bad design on a bass costing over $3k.

Agreed. I'm sure it plays and sounds great but that visual inaccuracy ruins it for me.

the mojo hobo

Quote from: dadagoboi on January 24, 2013, 08:54:41 AM
That may be true but it doesn't justify not taking the time to get the proportions more visually pleasing on the p/g.  If necessary you hire a professional to do it, it's not that expensive.  IMO there's no excuse for bad design on a bass costing over $3k.

I didn't say I liked it, or that it was an excuse. It is a lack of attention to detail. IMO, The center line of the upper part of the pickguard should bisect the apex of the curve of the body. The Cataldo basses have it right.

Chris P.

I updated my list on page 1.

dadagoboi

Quote from: the mojo hobo on January 24, 2013, 03:48:28 PM
I didn't say I liked it, or that it was an excuse. It is a lack of attention to detail. IMO, The center line of the upper part of the pickguard should bisect the apex of the curve of the body.

Sorry for my inference.  Thanks for clearing it up.

drbassman

There's no excuse for a new bass that runs $3000.   ;D  Seriously, how valuable is someone's labor?  I'd love to know the sales figures on down the road for this new NR entry.  I can't imagine it will be significant.
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the mojo hobo

Especially after Bach and Gibson have already filled the demands of those of us who have been waiting for the NR to be renewed.

I'm sure Lull has his following but I doubt he will sell even a handfull of them.

dadagoboi

Quote from: the mojo hobo on January 29, 2013, 04:50:56 AM
Especially after Bach and Gibson have already filled the demands of those of us who have been waiting for the NR to be renewed.

I'm sure Lull has his following but I doubt he will sell even a handfull of them.

Absolutely doesn't matter, it's all gravy.  Any publicity generated by his NR is good advertising for all his other models.  Judging by the results just about zero in time and money were expended in R&D.

All Lull has to do is order the unique parts (the body and P/G).  The bodies most likely get ordered a few at a time and go directly to the painter in Van Nuys.  The other components are the same as the rest of the T series stuff.  He then does all the assembly and setup himself.

To NOT do an NR would be a bad business move on Lull's part IMO.  I've done around eighty trade shows.  One of the first things existing customers (dealers) ask is, "What's new?"  At the least it's an icebreaker before they restock what they're already buying.  If you are an established business and don't have something new to intro you're wasting a lot of advertising budget.  You get to put stuff in front of a few knowledgeable people and get their reaction to it.  It's possible someone at NAMM that ML trusts remarked that the pick guard seemed off and he'll do something about it.

Aussie Mark

Quote from: Chris P. on January 25, 2013, 03:46:41 AM
I updated my list on page 1.

Apart from the EBMM Sabre reissue I already mentioned on page 1 .....

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Dave W

Nice color on that Sabre.

gweimer

Quote from: dadagoboi on January 29, 2013, 05:45:35 AM
Absolutely doesn't matter, it's all gravy.  Any publicity generated by his NR is good advertising for all his other models.  Judging by the results just about zero in time and money were expended in R&D.

All Lull has to do is order the unique parts (the body and P/G).  The bodies most likely get ordered a few at a time and go directly to the painter in Van Nuys.  The other components are the same as the rest of the T series stuff.  He then does all the assembly and setup himself.

To NOT do an NR would be a bad business move on Lull's part IMO.  I've done around eighty trade shows.  One of the first things existing customers (dealers) ask is, "What's new?"  At the least it's an icebreaker before they restock what they're already buying.  If you are an established business and don't have something new to intro you're wasting a lot of advertising budget.  You get to put stuff in front of a few knowledgeable people and get their reaction to it.  It's possible someone at NAMM that ML trusts remarked that the pick guard seemed off and he'll do something about it.

I'm not in the business, but I have to agree.  The first time I took my white B&CH to a blues jam, somebody walked all the way through the bar to look at my bass.  It caught his eye right away.
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gearHed289

Since they've been offering additional pups on the StingRay for a while now, what's the difference between that and a Sabre? Pickguard shape?

Dave W

Quote from: gearHed289 on January 30, 2013, 09:44:03 AM
Since they've been offering additional pups on the StingRay for a while now, what's the difference between that and a Sabre? Pickguard shape?

Pickups and circuit are somewhat different. And Tony Levin's signature on a certificate.

http://www.notreble.com/buzz/2012/11/30/ernie-ball-music-man-unveils-sledge-basses-including-sabre-reissue/

chromium

#27
Love that Sabre in the pic above!  Always wanted something in maui blue, assuming that's what it is.  Might have to try one of those out..

My old Stingray mutt has a fretless '80 Sabre neck on it.  Beautiful neck, slender 1.5", and I'd probably actually play it if it had a maple board and frets!  

I used to play fretless almost all the time, and that was my main bass for years.  Funny how tastes change.

Chris P.

A friend of mine sells two Sabres. A fretted and a fretless...

uwe

Didn't they have that phase cancellation issue like hell when they came out originally and didn't that kill them commercially?

Not that it ever hurt the Jazz Bass!  :mrgreen:
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