"We can order it for you..." aka... the day the music (shop) died...

[Highlander]

Fascinating...
Roshina surprised us this week by (indepentantly) coming out with the comment that she'd like to by a turntable...?
Something that she's been thinking about for a while, apparently, and she's firmly planted in the digital age...

[Psycho Bass Guy]

I don't think it covers used sales.

Consider the irony of "used" music in the digital age: Record labels hate used music stores with a passion and have tried to leverage royalties out of them for many years. It's gratifying to see that with vinyl, indie music stores are growing on a model that market trending says should be dying. It is no small irony that the little hip joints selling used LP's have done better than the huge media conglomerates who tried so hard to stamp them out.

[Highlander]

That's the tricky bit with the "old and/or retired" MP3... with an LP or a tape you could swop it or exchange it or etc... swopping MP3's is somewhat frowned upon...

[clankenstein]

a long time ago i bought an lp called axis:bold as love , a new zealand pressing.then i bought it again as a uk import on heavier vinyl which sounded slightly better. i also bought a casssette of it to play in my car.when cds happened i bought it on cd(ho hum sound quality).then i bought the carlos olms digital mix on cd,then i bought the eddie kramer remastered cd(its slightly bright)theres another version of it out there but i think im done paying for it now.im sure it will be issued on holographic suppository or whatever the next format is but all i ever wanted was a copy that sounded good thank you very much.im sure i could work up a good dose of righteous indignation at the record companies but if i come across a good sounding flac file of it well i might feel morally  vindicated for storing it on my hard drive.on a happier note, i have started playing my lps again ,most enjoyable!there are a couple of good used record shops here in wellington too , they seem to be doing ok.

[Highlander]

At Filmore East has been a serial purchase of mine - original Capricorn, then a quad copy, then an original pink label copy, the original CD release, then the special edition extra track copy (skipped one superdedoopa version), and now the beast sits on this skinny aluminium can...

I think we just want to capture that magic of the first time we listened to something we considered to be so perfect but will never be just so again...

 

[westen44]

At Filmore East has been a serial purchase of mine - original Capricorn, then a quad copy, then an original pink label copy, the original CD release, then the special edition extra track copy (skipped one superdedoopa version), and now the beast sits on this skinny aluminium can...

I think we just want to capture that magic of the first time we listened to something we considered to be so perfect but will never be just so again...

 

Being from a place in which the influence of the Allman Brothers was just totally beyond words, I can identify with the statement "something we considered to be so perfect but will never be just so again."  

[gweimer]

And then there were/are the little shops that offer up bootlegs.  I remember a couple places that did that.  I had a few boots that I liked:

Live at Blueberry Hill - Led Zep (my high school band used to do the versions of their songs from this over the studio versions)
Good-Bye, Jimi - Jimi Hendrix, on gold vinyl no less.  Had some cool live stuff, and his instrumental of "Sunshine of Your Love"
Un Reve Sans Consequence - King Crimson.  Years later, Fripp would buy the original tape (I think), remix, remaster, and release on DGM as The Night Watch.

[westen44]

And then there were/are the little shops that offer up bootlegs.  I remember a couple places that did that.  I had a few boots that I liked:

Live at Blueberry Hill - Led Zep (my high school band used to do the versions of their songs from this over the studio versions)
Good-Bye, Jimi - Jimi Hendrix, on gold vinyl no less.  Had some cool live stuff, and his instrumental of "Sunshine of Your Love"
Un Reve Sans Consequence - King Crimson.  Years later, Fripp would buy the original tape (I think), remix, remaster, and release on DGM as The Night Watch.

You can get the Hendrix "Sunshine of Your Love" on several official releases now, of course, both studio and live.  God only know how many Hendrix bootlegs there have been.  But I always just stuck with official releases.  There are plenty of those, in fact, probably too many. 

[gweimer]

You can get the Hendrix "Sunshine of Your Love" on several official releases now, of course, both studio and live.  God only know how many Hendrix bootlegs there have been.  But I always just stuck with official releases.  There are plenty of those, in fact, probably too many. 

True enough, but back in the mid '70s, they were a treat.

[westen44]

True enough, but back in the mid '70s, they were a treat.

Oh, yeah, I think the people who took advantage of that at the time had great fun.  At least with Hendrix, it's often the people who know everything about the bootlegs who seem to be so well-informed. 

[clankenstein]

Live at Blueberry Hill - Led Zep  ,Un Reve Sans Consequence - King Crimson.

ha, that woke up some dormant braincells.had both of those back around 1979 i think.

[Highlander]

I still have a stack of vinyl boots and some KBFH type stuff - probably Neil Young tops the pile for quantity... I had several LP's worth of unreleased material at one time and heaven only knows how many versions of Hurricane, etc...

There is one a few stunning boots that have now had a legitimate release - Skynyrd's Cardiff Peaches (one of the best live versions of Freebird I have) and F Mac's "Will the real F Mac please stand up" jump out from memory - I have both of these on CD and now as MP3's - how many of you remember all those radio shows and they were (almost) all "released" to the stations on vinyl, usually with liner notes, cue tracks, promo reals and/or in special sleeves or big boxes - I still have quite a few of those - a lot ended up on CD too...

How about Tom Petty's greatest unreleased track "Dog On The Run" - I have to admit to being highly hacked off that they only issued that on the superdeedooper archive release - I have a "boot" of the "official" and a tape of the UK copy which had 5 tracks as opposed to the US copies 4 tracks...

[gweimer]

Actually, now that I think of it, I have (or had) the ultimate boot.  It was WB&L live, and the show I attended.  My friend brought a cheap Panasonic cassette recorder and taped it.  Years later, he remastered it at Smart Studios and sent me the CDs.  It's really lo-fi, and has a LOT of Jack Bruce, since we were about 20 feet away.  If I still have it, anyone interested in having it?

[nofi]

i think the ultimate boot might be the buddy rich 'bus tapes'.

[Highlander]

... If I still have it, anyone interested in having it?

Ah, you may have piqued my interest... pm'd

Nofi... care to expand on that BR info...  hmm info is a Nofi amagran...